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Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by The Shrike
Plus I know things about the moon that you don't.
Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Like the existence of aliens on the Moon? Hmmm... Are any Borgs there?
This thread is really getting entertaining!
reply to post by john124 It's not about believing a particular side. If you investigate thoroughly yourself, you would discover exactly the same as the badastronomy article states. reply to post by andrewh7 What would possibly make the photo roll up on its own? I will say that the surface temperature is about 100C or 212F, normally if it's a platic cover, it will roll. So I search on ATS, then google, no answer. Did somebody know the answer ? I don't found any debunk for AS 16-117-18841 ? john124, did badastronomy.com have the answer to this question ? or somebody else ? Please, provide link to any explanation ?
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Like the existence of aliens on the Moon? Hmmm... Are any Borgs there?
Why do you believe so heavily in aliens?
Originally posted by OrionHunterX
I'm heading for them hills!
Originally posted by mixmix
reply to post by OrionHunterX
OK
Do you have something serious to say about picture AS 16-117-18841 ?
Now, this photo is some 30 years old, as is its informational content (in these net.days, people tend to label this as 'virtual'). I just tried to imagine the way in which this particular bit of virtual information - the portrait of a family - already has traveled in these 30 or so years.
Are you still with me? Then let the journey begin.
Not sure when and where exactly this photo in a photo was taken. Probably in the garden behind the Duke's house, late 60s, on a sunny day. Taken by a photographer or family friend or relative, or maybe with a timer or remotely triggered. The film was removed from the camera, taken where you get your film developed, and got developed and printed on paper. Back it went to the Dukes, where it stayed for a while.
At some point, Charlie Duke probably decided that it was a good idea to take it with him on his mission, so he took the necessary steps, like having it packed in transparent foil, and it finally got placed in the spacecraft. It was launched with Apollo 16, travelled all the way to lunar orbit and landed with the LM. On EVA-3, Charlie Duke took it out on the surface, placed it down onto the lunar soil, and took a couple of photos of the scene with his Hasselblad.
Apollo Magazine 117, which now contained this virtual information -the photo of the photo of the Dukes - was taken back inside the LM. Up it went with the ascent stage into lunar orbit, and traveled all the way back to Earth in order to make a splashdown in the Pacific Ocean. There it was picked up together with the rest of the equipment and taken to the photo laboratory in the LRL in order to get developed. It got developed, and the resulting film and prints were called AS16-117-18841 and were stuffed away in some archive for the next few decades, just to be pulled back out seldomly, every now and then, in order to have a copy made for whoever desired one.
history.nasa.gov...
Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by OrionHunterX
It is interesting how well that photograph and the plastics around it hold up in the lunar conditions.
Temperature was around 200 degrees when the pic was allegedly taken.
The temperature on the moon varies from -387 Fahrenheit (-233 Celsius), at night, to 253 Fahrenheit (123 Celsius) during the day. Because the moon has no atmosphere to block some of the sun's rays or to help trap heat at night, its temperature varies greatly between day and night.
coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu...
The mid-day temperature on the moon is indeed around 260 degrees Fahrenheit, however, the low temperature in the dark of night is about minus 250 degrees Fahrenheit! The lunar landings and following exploration was done when the sun was low, within a day or so of local sunrise at the landing site at the time of the landing, so that temperatures were actually quite moderate, even after a full 3 days on the lunar surface. The film in the cameras was also kept in magazines that provided some protection from the extreme temperatures even when left in direct sunlight. In a vacuum without an atmosphere to conduct heat, film inside the magazines it was carried in is quite well protected from the heat of direct sunlight.
Surface temperature
During the lunar day, the surface temperature averages 107 °C, and during the lunar night, it averages −153 °C.[49]
The Moon has the coldest place in the Solar System measured by a spacecraft.
en.wikipedia.org...
The Apollo crews landed when the Sun was low in the eastern sky, a configuration that gave good shadow definition of the landing site terrain. Solar phase angles (0 degrees at local sunrise, 90 degrees at noon) at landing ranged from 4.7 degrees (Apollo 12) to 14.7 (Apollo 16). The last three crews stayed for considerably longer than the others and the phase angles at EVA-3 termination were 45.6, 48.6, and 43.1 for Apollo 15, 16, and 17, repectively.
Temperature measurements made with thermocouples positioned within a few centimeters above the surface are available for Apollo 15 and A17. As indicated in the following figures, temperatures at EVA-3 termination for those two missions were about 69°C and 52°C, respectively.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by OrionHunterX
I specifically used 'Fahrenheit'.
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Surface temp was around 200 degrees when the Apollo missions landed - give or take a few degrees (and depending on the amount of shade; which drastically reduces temperatures).
Surface temperature during the lunar day, the surface temperature averages 107 °C, and during the lunar night, it averages −153 °C.
en.wikipedia.org...
You don't even read the posts you reply to. You miss whole words and sentences at a time.
(Otherwise you look like an intentional ignoramus - which is much worse than looking like an unintentional ignoramus )