9/11 - Important Article.

Hi,

When talking about 9/11, I have seen nothing come close as to the exposure in regards to the many inconsistencies that occurred on 9/11/01 as this essay has been able to do. I believe that this essay is very vital to fully comprehend what really transpired on that horrendous day. This piece contains lots of sources, so as if to show that it hasn't been written through judgment alone. It's carefully researched and a well thought out essay that can really make an individual ponder the official story. If you can please read it and post your comments as to what you think of this piece, that would be greatly appreciated.

Ps. This was not written by me, I came across this essay through my extensive research on 9/11.

Thanks,
Realization

Here is the link: www.apfn.org...

reply to post by ReAlIzAtIoN


This is just an anti-semitic rant. Josef Goebbels would have given it 10 out of 10.

I'm pretty sure I know who wrote this. I'd say it's a must read if only because of the different way it lays things out and for its thought-provoking power.

Perspective is always important to have and strive for. At frequent intervals we absolutely have to step back from our own and look at the whole in a relatively non-judgemental way and with an open mind. Even if we don't always necessarily agree with every point and aspect.

And as with much in conspiracyland some of the names assigned to, say, TPTB or to their factions may be different than you've seen before or some may more prominently placed in this person's experience, research, and knowledge, but the concepts is the same, and put together with other people's experience, research, and knowledge, eventually the real picture begins to arise.

Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by ReAlIzAtIoN

 

This is just an anti-semitic rant. Josef Goebbels would have given it 10 out of 10.

Did you key on the word Zionist and assume it was in some way antisemitic? Do you assume all Zionists are Jewish? I'm confused. Please clarify.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Who do you think wrote that piece? I don't necessarily agree with everything written there, but it's definitely a great read and really can open an individual's mind a little more.

reply to post by ReAlIzAtIoN


I'm going to respect his wish for privacy. As you can tell by the one response above, he gets a lot of hate based on people keying on one word and going off into lalaland, and that kind of closed-mindedness and ignorance gets old.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by ReAlIzAtIoN

 

This is just an anti-semitic rant. Josef Goebbels would have given it 10 out of 10.

Yes, that is usually the anti-semite's first defence; to say they were just talking about Zionists. I have seen too much of it to believe that for a moment.

Did you key on the word Zionist and assume it was in some way antisemitic? Do you assume all Zionists are Jewish? I'm confused. Please clarify.

reply to post by Alfie1

Please define Zionism for us. And show me where this article is anti-semitic, Maybe then we can have a discussion like adults.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


It's understandable, but how do you surely know who wrote that essay?

I agree with you, many people see the term Zionism, and all of a sudden something triggers in their thought that this has something to do with antisemitism. It's a shame really of this type of zombie like state that people allowed themselves to be cast into. But if Alfie is a Jew, I can see why he might be somewhat offended. Jews have been persecuted and abused God knows for how many years, so his statement is understandable as well.

As for others, please comment on that essay, thanks.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Alfie1

 

Please define Zionism for us. And show me where this article is anti-semitic, Maybe then we can have a discussion like adults.

It so happens that I am not a jew. You don't have to be a jew to hate anti-semitism.

This article includes a lot of the most crude jew-bashing I have ever seen.

I felt really sorry for those nice nazis when I read about how the jews cruelly and unreasonably turned on them in 1933 !!

reply to post by Alfie1


Who said or even remotely implied that you might be Jewish. As I said, when you are prepared to discuss this as an adult, come back with some proof of your allegations and some definitions. Until then, you are on ignore.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity

Who said or even remotely implied that you might be Jewish. As I said, when you are prepared to discuss this as an adult, come back with some proof of your allegations and some definitions. Until then, you are on ignore.

The author actually.

posted by ReAlIzAtIoN
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But if Alfie is a Jew, I can see why he might be somewhat offended. Jews have been persecuted and abused God knows for how many years, so his statement is understandable as well.

Don't /ignore people because you dislike their views.

Here are some definition of Zionism:

Zi·on·ism (zī'ə-nĭz'əm)
n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

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–noun
a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

Zionism
The belief that Jews should have their own nation; Jewish nationalism. Zionism gained much support among Jews and others in the early twentieth century, and the hoped-for nation was established in the late 1940s in Palestine, as the state of Israel. Zionism is opposed by most Arabs.

Dictionary.com definitions

Notice how there is not one clear-cut definition?

[edit on 26/11/2009 by Dark Ghost]

Being anti-Zionist is not being anti-Semitic. Not all Zionists are Semites. And yes, I ignore people who most probably did not read the article and come in ready to pick a fight over one one they appear to have zeroed in on. I ignore people who appear to have tossed an entire article and every idea in it out and refuse to discuss based on said zeroing in. I don't only read and discuss things I agree with. If an article contains 9 valid points and one invalid point I don't focus on the invalid point and say all 10 points are invalid. Get my drift?

Furthermore, to which of these definitions do you believe the author of the article is referring?

Political Zionism (Theodore Herzl)
Socialist Zionism (Ber Borochov, Moses Hess)
Religious Zionism (Rabbi Kook)
Revisionist Zionism (Ze]ev Jabotinsky)
Cultural Zionism (Ahad Ha'am)

Thoughts?

[edit on 26-11-2009 by ~Lucidity]

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Being anti-Zionist is not being anti-Semitic. Not all Zionists are Semites. And yes, I ignore people who most probably did not read the article and come in ready to pick a fight over one one they appear to have zeroed in on. I ignore people who appear to have tossed an entire article and every idea in it out and refuse to discuss based on said zeroing in. I don't only read and discuss things I agree with. If an article contains 9 valid points and one invalid point I don't focus on the invalid point and say all 10 points are invalid. Get my drift?

Yes, it's true I didn't read the whole article. I can only take so much ant-semitic bilge in one morning.

I got as far as Hitler's final testament being quoted with approval :-

" It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish Origin or working for Jewish interests... Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War there would ever be a second against either England or America. "

I just cannot believe that anyone, except those with a rabid anti-semitic agenda, could take any of that rubbish half-way seriously.

I thought the rape of Checkoslovakia and the invasion of Poland might have had something to with starting WW 11 myself.

reply to post by Alfie1


how is this antisemitic? i am halfway through it so far, and it seems that the anti Semite remarks are coming from jews themselves!

how can it be antisemitic if its the same race bashing on its own?

so far out of everything so far.... THIS one stood out to me for some reason...

GRAHAM: "The Jewish stranglehold on the media has got to be broken or this country's going down the drain".

NIXON: "You believe that?"

GRAHAM: "Yes, sir."

NIXON: "Oh boy. So do I. I can't ever say that but I do believe it" 38

(this is from the essay) and here is the link that was provided by the essay writer.
news.bbc.co.uk...

I dont even know what to make of this essay. some here say its Anti-Semitic, but the only people being bashed are the Zionists.

(still reading)

Originally posted by ReAlIzAtIoN
As for others, please comment on that essay, thanks.

A well written pile of horse manure.

reply to post by 911files


Kinda like that site, 911 myths you posted..... I believe most of the OS, but it leaves out a lot of key points....

reply to post by 911files



That's your opinion and it is well respected. But you seem to be confused as was previously mentioned regarding what Zionism is. Please do further reading, and then comment. Read the whole essay and then give your thoughts.