Galactic Government

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

I really have to ponder why a government still exists at the galactic scale for reasons as mentioned before which you neglected. Not to mention that the first civilization into space would be one that has no value of money and effectively is either a hive mind, single mind, or ultra individualistic. All of which would grow to become god-like in power and suppress any other kind of people who advanced. You're either isolationist and out of the picture, or imperialist and forcing your way. Of which, the first would be a technocracy. Ergo machines rule the universe

Perhaps the lack of time travelers prove this. There are no biological creatures through time, only probes and machines with entanglement connections to their supercomputer masters elsewhere.

Why would there not be a galactic government? Granted, it would be more like Earht's United Nation; A collection of individual civilations, grouped together for the common good, but, a governmental body none the less.

True, the need for money would be less, but probably not gone, not all societies would have done away with that need, and it is likely that in those societies, greed is still present, but neither would be universal.

The "mind" factor isn't part of the equasion! Granted there may be individual societies that resemble any of those you mentioned, but again not universal.

You seem to make "leaps of logic" that are unneccessary, and unfounded. If you want to "see" how a Galactic community works you need look no farther than Earth itself. Remember the words of Hermes; "As above so below, as below so above".

And perhaps the absence of time travelers means; time travel isn't possible on the physical plane.

OP a few real questions. Who is all the GOLD payed to???
And do you know who won the last WAR that spawned the federation. Zraconis or other? Did it involve MARS. Not even doubting you because there are ALIENS to ALIENS lol. Why no ANuz within federation?

[edit on 8/25/10 by Ophiuchus 13]

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
OP a few real questions. Who is all the GOLD payed to???
And do you know who won the last WAR that spawned the federation. Zraconis or other? Did it involve MARS. Not even doubting you because there are ALIENS to ALIENS lol. Why no ANuz within federation?

[edit on 8/25/10 by Ophiuchus 13]

What Gold?

I am not of this Galaxy, so I have no knowledge of its history.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I am not of this Galaxy, so I have no knowledge of its history.

Well with that said, I guess the rest of what you are saying is equally as absurd and unprovable?

Also...false?

I mean...lets be honest...all of this is really just based off a money-scam and a few "personal" misconceptions about your own "species"?

I mean...we both know you have no proof, no legitimate reason to think any of this is true and absolutely no credibility ...

So what gives?

How can anyone take this serious enough?

I'm just being serious...hope it wasn't seen as just lashing out in a rude way. But ATS has a goal to deny ignorance...and I am sure that ATS is also not really into "just accepting facts from someone who claims to be an alien for no good reason at all".

I dunno...just very weird to see you keep insisting on this line of "story" when it has been shown time and time again, that you have no proof other then your own "thoughts" and your "invisible mother from space"...and lets not forget Crowly...

Nanoo nanoo sir...Indeed.

Unless they can do a flyby over my house i will not give into this galactical feds dreamers with new age music.
I'm sorry, i couldnt just write "crapola"...my post wouldnt be long enough.

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

I am not of this Galaxy, so I have no knowledge of its history.

Well with that said, I guess the rest of what you are saying is equally as absurd and unprovable?

Also...false?

I mean...lets be honest...all of this is really just based off a money-scam and a few "personal" misconceptions about your own "species"?

What money-scam?

I mean...we both know you have no proof, no legitimate reason to think any of this is true and absolutely no credibility ...

So what gives?

How can anyone take this serious enough?

I'm just being serious...hope it wasn't seen as just lashing out in a rude way. But ATS has a goal to deny ignorance...and I am sure that ATS is also not really into "just accepting facts from someone who claims to be an alien for no good reason at all".

Yes, "deny ignorance" ... one wonders when you will start!

Just in case you hadn't noticed. I do have evidence. It is not my fault the science is over your head, nor is it my fault that you do not desire to learn.

So, be a good lad now, and crawl back under your rock. You wouldn't want to see the light of day, and heaven forbid; truth.


[edit on 25-8-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

[edit on 26-8-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

Thank yo so much for this thread. I resonate with it so much. You are SO fortunate to have contact with yor mother and the Andromedans. I can recall contact with no one. I do make telepathic contact during meditation. I do not resonate at all with the societal structures of this planet. I am not from here, though I am incarnated as a human. I spoke with the Andromedans during a meditation. They are warm, loving, very wise and I felt a great warmth after speaking with them. I ask them when I could go home. They replied, "very,very soon". I've been hearing this from various sources for a year now. I don't think they understand how LONG a year is here. They also said, I wouldn't be going with them but "past or beyond them". I don't understand the latter. I have always felt drawn to the Pleaidian star cluster. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. Namaste

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
What money-scam?

How about a quote from the Galactic Federation of Light?

"We do not run a service to make money. We raise money to run our service"

Since the service (and the entire story behind such silliness) is totally "fabricated intentionally dishonest and ridiculous (not to mention 'created to prey on gullible or mentally unstable types') I would have to say-

Money scam...

Just in case you hadn't noticed. I do have evidence. It is not my fault the science is over your head, nor is it my fault that you do not desire to learn.

In all due respect sir...I personally believe you are baffled by simple sciences, based on your posts in the past.

Nothing you have said has gone over my head...in fact, it rolled to my feet and proved to me that you need help.... professional help.

Being a programer who can code in a code-language that was outdated over 8 years ago, is hardly evidence. Sending your name to a silly little "online DNA service" that didn't prove ANYTHING is hardly science I can't handle.

Trust me...you are not producing anything "over my head"...In fact, I find your charades to be lackluster and juvenile in their attempts to trump logical conclusions with your own "inventions of reality".

You sir are the one who has a head "well below" the facts here.

And typical grade schoolers seem to know more about science then your posts have shown you to grasp.

So, be a good lad now, and crawl back under your rock.

Fictional rock or real rock? Or does that even matter to you at all these days?

You wouldn't want to see the light of day, and heaven forbid; truth.

Oh I seek the truth daily and indefinitely...it is the very reason I can see through your paper-thin lies and illogical jumps to impossible conclusions.

Trust me friend, while you are there rolling your eyes at logic...logic is laughing its way to the bank.

Enjoy trying to collect a handful of servants to become your personal zealots in your fabricated little world where "you are the center of it all".

I have personally seen your evidence and also watched it ripped apart by science as easy as a child rips a wrapper from a candy.

You sir are selling snake oil...and you sir are not being honest at all.

Good day.

Tell your invisible mother I'm still waiting for her to come and destroy me, like you once threatened. Strangely enough, she has yet to do a darn thing but make you look "insane" in a public forum.







[edit on 26-8-2010 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda
What money-scam?

How about a quote from the Galactic Federation of Light?

"We do not run a service to make money. We raise money to run our service"

Since the service (and the entire story behind such silliness) is totally "fabricated intentionally dishonest and ridiculous (not to mention 'created to prey on gullible or mentally unstable types') I would have to say-

Money scam...

Interesting! Except, I'm not GFL, nor am I connected in any way. I have not asked for any money, nor have I accepted any. All of the efforts todate have been funded by my pocket, and will likely stay that way.

So again, I ask; "What money scam?"

This is so typical of you Mask; you see things that simply aren't there.

In all due respect sir...I personally believe you are baffled by simple sciences, based on your posts in the past.

Nothing you have said has gone over my head...in fact, it rolled to my feet and proved to me that you need help.... professional help.

How many times do I have to tell you and others; I have "professional help". I have a virtual "bevy" of Terrestrial Doctors, all provided by the U.S. Government "looking after me". They are all fully aware of who/what I am, and where I am from. They don't seem to think there are any issues, so I must presume that any such issues are in your mind, and you are attempting to project them on me.

As for the science; Yes, I'm sorry to say; that after 4 years of college chemistry, and 6 years of college and advanced physics, I am wholly baffled by science ... not!

Being a programer who can code in a code-language that was outdated over 8 years ago, is hardly evidence. Sending your name to a silly little "online DNA service" that didn't prove ANYTHING is hardly science I can't handle.

Oh?! And which language would that be? I'm betting you don't know! Neither do you know which languages I use. But, I'll give you a hint; the latest!

You also show that you know nothing about DNA anaylsis, the technologies used, and the people who provide those services. You should simply not comment on stuff like this; you show your true ignorance.

You sir are selling snake oil...and you sir are not being honest at all.

Well mask; as I have already said ... I'm not selling anything!

Originally posted by Klaatumagnum
Thank yo so much for this thread. I resonate with it so much. You are SO fortunate to have contact with yor mother and the Andromedans. I can recall contact with no one. I do make telepathic contact during meditation. I do not resonate at all with the societal structures of this planet. I am not from here, though I am incarnated as a human. I spoke with the Andromedans during a meditation. They are warm, loving, very wise and I felt a great warmth after speaking with them. I ask them when I could go home. They replied, "very,very soon". I've been hearing this from various sources for a year now. I don't think they understand how LONG a year is here. They also said, I wouldn't be going with them but "past or beyond them". I don't understand the latter. I have always felt drawn to the Pleaidian star cluster. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. Namaste

Thank you, through all the negativity I do try.

No, I don't think most ETs really have a grasp on the length of a year. I hear the same from my mother; "soon baby, very soon". But, soon to one who is acustom to Earthly cycles is much sooner than to those who are on a different time cycle. But, then to may people; it seems that it takes 40 Earth years to equal one of theirs.

It could be that you were Pleiadian in a recent incarnation, and have some memories trying surface.

About all I can truly say is what I keep telling myself; "Hang in there, it will all become known in it's own time."

Etharzi od Oma.

Why are there angry people attacking "AnthraAndromda" for, all he is doing is being honest. I stress at societies ignorance, when will they accept truth by which they need to-look-outside-their-comfort-zone. That being work, life, the family, socialising and actually taking a time-out and looking into their souls' and awakening themselves up and recollective memories and working out who they are, what they are, what source they are from, which star system they are, who their family are and so on.

People make it harder for themselves than they need to.

Hopefully you'll all come to realise this. I see no end of people attacking other's because for once people come forward of their true origin and then they get attacked. It doesn't suprise me some Benevolent's are struggling to get through to those who choose not to listen.

Wake up people, these guy's need us to meet them half-way, You can't seriously expect them to do all the work for us. We here to change ourselves, they are here to help guide us.

L & L.

reply to post by DClairvoyant


Thank you for your posts. This gets overwhelming at times and I can feel weariness from the whole thing, but its all a test. These lessons here on earth are like grade one love lessons (maybe lower level), and we need to collectively reach the next grade. We can't get cosmic unless its black op facist style until we grow. NWO, fascism, starvation, homelessness, wars, control, comets, meteors, cme's, pole shifts, its all low level primitive tests for lesser grades of love.

People are here because of pass mishaps and thinking they learn through great hardship, its a frequency thing, no one really forces anyone here, except themselves.

We all need to wake up.

Love, and care about teh homeless. Not say, well, we should force him into slave labor to corporations like I am, because of course we need to live under a pyramid system of slavery and no one was born with natural rights to planet, land and resources, akin to all of nature. e No forcing, but always helping, and overcoming the pyramid system to begin with.

No teacher gives a grade 7 student, grade 1 tests. Not done!

I think I shared with you the groups invovled, at least some of them. They work with this group, there is a big connection going on, with the positives.


[edit on 26-8-2010 by Unity_99]

The problem is people want proof; ala Close Encounters, Independence Day, War of the Worlds proof, not just words, they want to SEE, TOUCH, SMELL, LOOK at something that says THIS IS REAL, Words like 'soon' 'its coming' mean nothing. Facts are facts, words are meaningless

Originally posted by HomerinNC
The problem is people want proof; ala Close Encounters, Independence Day, War of the Worlds proof, not just words, they want to SEE, TOUCH, SMELL, LOOK at something that says THIS IS REAL, Words like 'soon' 'its coming' mean nothing. Facts are facts, words are meaningless

People say, "They WANT".

I was always taught that wanting will not get me anywhere in life. If I want to discover something I have to earn it and show respect for what I have learnt. Thing's are not given to us on a plate without lesson's/experience's.

You want fact's, how are you going to receive facts if your not prepared to learn/experience the lesson beforehand and then pass the test. If you want to be a grade 7 for example like Unity_99 mentioned that no teacher will give a grade 7 grade 1 lesson's, you want facts you are going to have to grow up and start learning and soon or later you shall receive your facts.

But for those who just want, will get nowhere in life.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by DClairvoyant]

reply to post by HomerinNC


Then theres the ones curious and positive and questioning everything. Their friend tells them they have oobe's so they try to themselves. They here some people have sightings, and some meditate and have contact, so they try it. Some keep journals about trying to manifest a pakring space or making a cloud disappear, or how they had a wonderful positive thought, and the sun burst into their room, which in a holographic universe is teh projector and our collective consciosness. Basically the hologeram is all sun light, when standing on terra, you're walking on sunshine.

Listen, we're here in tests, forgetting who we are. Basically its being curious and trying to seek that brings the answers. Teachers don't pass the students a cheat sheet before exams now do they?

reply to post by DClairvoyant


Your remarks about "wanting" are right on the mark.

Here is a little something I was taught:

"He may attract to himself any force of the Universe by making himself a fit receptacle for it, establishing a connection with it, and arranging conditions so that its nature compels it to flow toward him." (Definition of Magick; Aleister Crowley)

Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
The problem is people want proof; ala Close Encounters, Independence Day, War of the Worlds proof, not just words, they want to SEE, TOUCH, SMELL, LOOK at something that says THIS IS REAL, Words like 'soon' 'its coming' mean nothing. Facts are facts, words are meaningless

I can understand where many are comming from in this regard, however, we don't always have things simply given to us. Sometimes we have to work to get answers. Sometimes we have to work very hard. And, frequently facts are nothing more than so many words, it is therefore incumbant on us to learn to understand what those words truly mean ... and that usually requires work.

I know there will be those who will say; "this sucks". I won't argue; but in the end we all must face reality.

Etharzi od Oma.

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda


Interesting! Except, I'm not GFL, nor am I connected in any way. I have not asked for any money, nor have I accepted any. All of the efforts todate have been funded by my pocket, and will likely stay that way.

I never said you were part of of any organization, I said the rubbish you are regurgitating is nothing more then stolen from them...oh and Crowly.

So again, I ask; "What money scam?"

The one I just told you about...yknow, the one you have been quoting from for all this time. Yknow, the one that you decided to follow and endorse after you fell from grace in your little "magic scam" of the past.

As I have told you many times, there are people here who know you personally and have been very forthcoming with your history. I know about your magic cult and how that fell apart with people "worried for your personal mental health", and how you were once a "Crowly fanatic" trying to sell a whole other line of lies...like you were a wizard in touch with the devil himself...but that is neither here nor there....back on topic.

This is so typical of you Mask; you see things that simply aren't there.

You once told me that your invisible mother was angry with me, and that you told her to destroy me...

Trust me friend, if anyone has problems "knowing what is real and what is just crazy talk", it surly isn't me.

How many times do I have to tell you and others; I have "professional help". I have a virtual "bevy" of Terrestrial Doctors, all provided by the U.S. Government "looking after me". They are all fully aware of who/what I am, and where I am from.

This is my point...

You openlly told me and the rest of ATS that you had "one doctor" who told you that it was "ok to think this stuff".

Now its a "bevy"? and they "know" who you are and that you are an alien? And they are government sent to you?

Lol...sir, your story has changed so many times, I am wondering how you still are even allowed to post. Between you threatening member's lives with angry invisible aliens, to you being caught out telling lie after lie, it still shocks me that you are allowed here.

They don't seem to think there are any issues, so I must presume that any such issues are in your mind, and you are attempting to project them on me.

4 months ago it was-

"I have one doctor and can't afford anything more".

Now its-

"I have a whole secret team of government doctors working with me".

Sir, again, in all due respect, you are being dishonest and absolutely destructive to any credibility you may have once had.

As for the science; Yes, I'm sorry to say; that after 4 years of college chemistry, and 6 years of college and advanced physics, I am wholly baffled by science ... not!

Riiiiight...like when you said you have advanced degrees in scalar physics?

Sorry, once you tell me something like "invisible voices told me I am an alien, and my invisible mother will destroy you", I tend to stop looking for anything salvageable as truth from that person's mouth.

You have been caught lying in plenty of the threads you have created and/or joined.

I wouldn't trust your word on the sky's color.

Oh?! And which language would that be? I'm betting you don't know! Neither do you know which languages I use. But, I'll give you a hint; the latest!

To be clear, I am no programmer nor do I understand such things. But I do know that a slew of "real programmers" and engineers have ripped your "talents in code" apart, calling it "basic at best" and "too old and unused these days".

Then, I watched you flipping out saying you would send aliens to "kill us".

That is so nice...your alien friends are so advanced and intelligent, that they are ready to kill humans who just arn't dumb enough to roll over and take your word.

Between us...your aliens are fabrications of your mind...and that makes you "less then creditable" by anyone with "logical standards".

You also show that you know nothing about DNA anaylsis, the technologies used, and the people who provide those services. You should simply not comment on stuff like this; you show your true ignorance.

Actually, if I remember right, the source you sent your information to came back showing you to be human...and you STILL insisted that it did not.

If I also remember, the site was a cheap little "do it yourself" lab that fully admitted to NOT being a a real place for REAL full DNA testing.

It was not a real lab...it was a website you send money to and then they tell you what your heritage is.

If you have government doctors knowing you are alien, why would you waste time and money sending anything to a fisher-price-my-first-dna-lab?

Oh yeah...I forgot...you are not capable of keeping your stories straight.

Wonder why...

Well mask; as I have already said ... I'm not selling anything!

YOU are selling LIES. Hogwash...total fooey.

Are you making money off it? Nope...you are fishing for "zealots"...you want worshipers (something I was also told by someone fully aware of your Crowly days).

You won't find many here....but I'm sure you will find enough to make all this trouble you went through reinventing yourself over.

Enjoy the sadness of that...I simply think you should be forced to see a real doctor.

Not these imaginary ones that work for the government...

Good day sir.



[edit on 26-8-2010 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by HomerinNC

 

Then theres the ones curious and positive and questioning everything. Their friend tells them they have oobe's so they try to themselves. They here some people have sightings, and some meditate and have contact, so they try it. Some keep journals about trying to manifest a pakring space or making a cloud disappear, or how they had a wonderful positive thought, and the sun burst into their room, which in a holographic universe is teh projector and our collective consciosness. Basically the hologeram is all sun light, when standing on terra, you're walking on sunshine.

Listen, we're here in tests, forgetting who we are. Basically its being curious and trying to seek that brings the answers. Teachers don't pass the students a cheat sheet before exams now do they? [/quote]

Nope. The teacher's treat everybody equally and fairly.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by DClairvoyant]

The whole Galactic Government seems to me to be the product of a fertile imagination. I don't believe all this nonsense.

One thing I do believe is that knowledge and power go side by side with silence and withdrawal. What you are doing is attracting attention to yourself. Perhaps it is because you do not have enough knowledge to hold on to.

Your claim to being an ET is bound to expose you to ridicule. I hope you don't get offended.