Super Flu news: Events in the Poland - Ukraine - Slovakia border areas.

Slovakia - Ukraine borders are closed. One border post is closed completely, the other with heavy trawel restriction (20+ doctors inspecting trawellers - simply if you have even only fever you are send back) .Poland will join this initiation soon propably ,moreover in all vilages andtowns, when outside, and medical facilities in eastern Slovakia it is mandatory to wear face masks.

Sources:
REUTERS
wtop

reply to post by Durabys


This scares the hell out of me, I am living in the czech republic and this only a half a thousand kilometers away from me. These are really strange and unique times we live in.

Thanks for pointing this out. I have some friends in Czhec Republic. I sent them a heads up and well wishes that they stay safe.

What's more disturbing than anything is that so many people are completely unaware of this and it hasn't even been officially named yet.

Thanks for the links.

Someone with a first hand experience to verify or discredit the stories of how bad (or not bad) it is there! So... is it really as bad as the accounts say?


[edit on 16-11-2009 by jcrash]

reply to post by rogerstigers


By Dr. Rebecca Carley - BLN Contributing Writer

The biggest story on the Planet today is the outbreak of a very serious Advanced Biological War virus in Europe. The second biggest story on the Planet is the suppression of this story for almost two weeks by the corporate owned mainstream news media.

There is a lot we know and a lot that we can only speculate on about what is unfolding in Central Europe. We know that in mid-October, less than a month ago, there was a growing number of cases of what many thought was Swine Flu (A/H1N1) in the western part of the Ukraine. We know that many hundreds if not thousands of people in western Ukraine witnessed low flying light airplanes aerosol spraying something over Ukrainian cities during the days of October 29, 2009 and October 31, 2009. We know that beginning the night of October 29th, massive numbers of people begin to get very sick. We know that the Ukraine government issued a statement denying that it was doing any aerial spraying to combat the growing disease or authorizing any spraying over Ukrainian cities. We know that by October 30th, the Ukrainian authorities closed all schools for three weeks and banded public gatherings.

We do NOT know what disease the people were/are coming down with. We do know that doctors are describing the disease as Pneumonic Plague, or as some type of hemorrhagic fever, or as hemorrhagic influenza, or as hemorrhagic pneumonia. We know that the illness, whatever it is, does not appear to be A/H1N1. We do not know if the disease is a recombination of A/H1N1 with other viruses or some totally different virus or if it is in fact a virus. We know that the World Health Organization (WHO) has had several days to sequence the genes of the disease but has failed to release this data.

We know that WHO has NOT called for the quarantining of the Ukraine or the shutdown of all global travel to/from the area of infection and that this is the same thing that they did when Mexican Swine Flu (A/H1N1) first broke out and that the failure to contain that virus early on ensured its spread throughout the world.

We know that the internal temperature of the lungs of those with a terminal case of what many are calling ‘Ukrainian Plague’ is often from 130F to 135F. We do know that autopsies show that the lungs are filled with blood, and are black in color, and that the lung tissue has turned to mush. We know that patients who first show any signs of illness usually crash in less than 48 hours, sometimes the same day.

We know that the disease was spreading by about 200,000 per day but that this has slowed to about 100,000 day now, in the Ukraine, as people take extraordinary steps to contain the spread of the disease. We know that well over one and a third million people in the Ukraine are very ill with the disease (according to published official sources) and that over 60,000 are hospitalized in serious to critical condition. We know that the disease has a very high transmission rate with a likely low amount of viral (if it is in fact a virus) material needed to cause an infection. We know that the official reports of deaths are under 300 in the Ukraine. We also know that it is normal for hospital admissions of people with ARI (acute respiratory infection) to have a fatality rate of from 5% to 10%. We know that non-official sources were reporting over 3,000 deaths several days ago and that this number is more in tune with the 5-10% fatality rate than the official figures.

We do not know what effective treatments are for this illness. We do know that young adults seem to be more in danger of this illness. We suspect that ‘cytokine storming’ similar to that in the 1918 Spanish Flu, that killed approximately 50 million people, is taking place.

We know from official Ukrainian Health Ministry reports that the illness does not test out as Mexican Swine Flu (A/H1N1). We do not know if the existing Swine Flu vaccine has any effect, but based on the non-positive response to Swine Flu in testing, we suspect that the vaccine is ineffective as the viral protean shell is different than A/H1N1 (if in fact it is a virus that causes the illness).

We know that the illness has spread to Poland, where over one quarter of a million people are now very ill. We know that it has spread to Belarus and to Hungary and elsewhere in central Europe. We know that 900,000 people are said to have Swine Flu in Norway but we do not know if this is related to Ukraine Plague in any way.

We know that on November 8th a South African site (fto.co.za) carried the following:

“Suspicious aircraft were forced to land. A US operated (Russian-made long-range heavy transport) AN-124 changed its call sign from civilian to military which then triggered a response from the IAF (Indian Air Force) upon entering Pakistani air space (forcing) the plane to land in Mumbai while (a) second one was forced down by Nigerian fighter jets that also arrested the crew.”

“According to reports, China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force contacted the Indian and Nigerian intelligence officials about the presence of these US operated Ukrainian aircraft amidst growing concern that the United States was spreading ‘biological agents’ in the Earth’s atmosphere, which some Chinese officials believed to be an attempt to (commit) mass genocide via the spread of H1N1 swine flu.”

These aircraft “were carrying ‘waste disposal’ systems that could spray up to 45,000kg (nearly 100,000 pounds) of aerial type mist from sophisticated….nano pipes” in the planes’ wings – called chemtrails.

We know that Baxter International Pharmaceuticals sent 72 kilos of human influenza H3N2 vaccine materials to 16 labs in European nations which contained live H5N1 Bird Flu viruses. We know that this was only discovered when a Czech lab tested the material on several ferrets (ferrets have a similar respiratory system to humans) and all of the ferrets died in short order. We know that Baxter claimed that this was human error. We also know that such a ‘human error’ is basically impossible with the containment protocols in place at Baxter and any other modern biolabs using Biosafety Level 3 (BLS-3) lab technology.

We know that in mid-August a Joseph Moshe, who is a Mossad biological warfare expert, called in to Dr. A. True Ott’s national radio talk show and reported that Baxter was getting ready to release a deadly plague from its Ukrainian lab and that he was shortly meeting with US Attorneys in Los Angles to give evidence about this. We know that shortly thereafter Moshe was apprehended by Federal agents and LA police and taken to the Israeli Consulate. We know that he was quickly flown to Israel and that no further word has come from him.

We know that over the last three or so years a large number of biological experts, from a number of places all over the world, have died strange deaths and that this has been commented on by various publications in the past.

We know that the sudden appearance of Mexican Swine Flu (A/H1N1) virtually had to have been a release from a biological warfare lab. We know that A/H1N1 has gene sequences from three different types (American, Asian, and African) of Swine Flu, of Bird Flu, of two different types of human seasonal flu, and of Spanish Flu and that such a recombination is so unlikely in nature as to be virtually impossible. We know that the WHO policies of not requiring a major quarantine of Mexico ensured that A/H1N1 would spread throughout the world.

We know that the current Swine Flu “Vaccine” is almost totally untested, and that the manufactures are protected from lawsuits for even deliberate acts that result in deaths and that nations acquiring the vaccines are required to sign contracts agreeing not to release negative information on the “vaccine” to the public. We know that published additives to the “vaccine” include highly dangerous-to-human-health substances.

We know that the corporate owned mainstream news media (with strong links to global banking families) have censored this story in a way that has never happen before. We know that the outbreak of a unknown but deadly and very rapidly spreading disease in Europe is the largest story on Earth but that it is NOT being reported on.

reply to post by bonesinis

Advanced Biological War virus

Wow just wow I can't believe how right some of us here on ATS were.

Engineered War virus.
Hemorrhagic virus.

It's going to get extremely ugly once this virus mutates again, which it probably was designed to do.

Jak se mate?

hhhh this sucks. I am a bit curious why it hasn't spread as far though. The swine flu was across the globe in no time but this is just lingering around. It seems fast and deadly but it isn't travelling quite like the original swine flu.

Best of luck to you all ..

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I know what Iam talking about, I have relatives in eastern slovakia and my grandfather is an rest home there.

reply to post by Durabys


Durabys, I don't expect that jcrash was doubting you, simply looking for independant verification. Frankly, the lack of information from the area is disturbing. I should think we should see some twitter feeds or something coming out of the area.

The MSM should be losing it's hold soon. Twitter and social networking feeds should be able to export news without censorship. But then, I may be a little too optimistic here.

reply to post by bonesinis


With all due respect to whoever this doctor is, she contradicts herself and also makes assertions that she later directly cannot support.

Pneumonic plague is a bacterial infection. Specifically Y. pestis. She states that although they do not know what it is she styates that it IS a virus. She also leads with the statement that it is an 'Advanced Biological War virus'. How can she say that when she admits that no one knows what it is?

This is the kind of misinformation that has run rampant since the very beginning of the H1N1 situation. People are creating hysteria and misinformation for some reason and others are regurgitating it all over the internet.

The Ukraine outbreak has been the epicenter of bad information. Conflicting and contradictory reports are widespread. We have no REAL verifiable information that anything we are discussing here is even remotely true.

My advice is for people to be highly suspicious of information coming from 'inside' sources. We cannot vet the information we are getting so we must be prudent about spreading it or buying into it.

Originally posted by bonesinis
reply to post by rogerstigers

 

By Dr. Rebecca Carley - BLN Contributing Writer

The biggest story on the Planet today is the outbreak of a very serious Advanced Biological War virus in Europe. The second biggest story on the Planet is the suppression of this story for almost two weeks by the corporate owned mainstream news media.

Please supply credible link to article - TY

Originally posted by Durabys
reply to post by Durabys

 

This scares the hell out of me, I am living in the czech republic and this only a half a thousand kilometers away from me. These are really strange and unique times we live in.

It's scaring the hell out of me too and I'm nowhere near the area (Spain)!

It's making me incredibly jumpy about any illness and I just wish they'd let us know what is going on. It's the shear lack of main stream reporting that makes me suspicious - they couldn't wait to keep telling us about H1N1 in Mexico, back in April. Why so quiet now? Is there something other than H1N1 in Ukraine, or not? If it's H1N1 is it worse in Ukraine than other countries, or not?