"Billy" Meier UFO Debunked! - 11/11/09

Originally posted by Annee

Why is it funny?

Perfectly believable and logical to me.

Sorry I should have clarified...

Its funny because you hit the nail right on the head

Originally posted by Annee
I believe Billy Meier did have an encounter -- similar to Joseph Smith.
I personally think the same evolved beings contacted both of these men.
I think because Billy couldn't keep his mouth shut - - so they moved on.
To prove his encounter/experience - - he then created fake proof.
Take it from there.

Modified post, taking out blank lines.

No.
That's not how it went down.
A few saucers left over from WWII Germany or other WWII Europe development or Von Braun development in New Mexico in the 40s
happened to have student pilots in Switzerland as Meier films them.

This discovery must be crushed as secret agents must make the Meier
event look foolish. Their work seemed too easy but don't think they
were dismissed.

I'd say only the light bending clam shell video seems a good unknown
and similar to Mexico film clam shell UFO. Acceptable to Tesla drive
saucers are women pilots as I suspect the bright bight and UV outside
the UFO at times also appears inside the craft and requires special
outfits.

Wow, I can't believe anyone on planet earth would even consider the object in photo #1 is anything at all but a redictulous attempt at a little humorous prank to mess with your friends with!

Are you telling me someone actually tried to claim THIS is a U.F.O.?

I've heard one of CoasttoCoastam's shows on this subject, but never SAW the photos' in question,
I can't believe George would have ever considered having someone on his show if he had actually seen these photo's.

Wow again, If he did see these pic's and still had the guy on, He's completely lost any credibility (yes I know it's a conspiracy/U.F.O/Theoretical-whatever show), but, I've always thought that he at least had some standards!

Anyway I recognized this item right off the bat because I had the unfortunate experiance of working on my buddies 1967 VW Bus on the side of the road at 1a.m. pitch dark dirt road in the middle of a desolate valley in the mountains of San Diego's back country.

It's a flywheel for the afour mentioned vehicle!

Did anyone notice the VW bus in the background with the plastic tarp covering the engine compartment and the motor trolley cart setting in front of the bus?

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen!

It really does look like he was just havin' fun with the new flywheel before installing it onto the engine on his bus!

And also the curved metal piece just below the second row of ball-bearings is an upside-down magnetic bowl for cleaning/holding small parts. also the bottm of the unit with the amber half-domes is another parts bowl!

the amber plastic-looking half-round items are colored inserts for diode light kits. You can get them at radio shack, cheap! (also the blue ones are the complete kits from R.S. stuck in the balance holes (drilled to balance flywheel)

And I think the round disfigurement on the bottom between the blue diode is the casting attachment spot where you detach (cut with blowtorch) whatever part your making from an assembly that casts a bunch of the parts at once. ( then you place a little round plate in that spot and weld it in place to cover/protect from rusting internal casting metal).

And Yes, great work on id'ing the exuast gaskets!

reply to post by Keymaster1


Avatar?

reply to post by Keymaster1


avatar?

reply to post by Keymaster1


They do have a few similarities:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bfc4736830de.png[/atsimg]

Source image:

www.just-vw.co.uk...

reply to post by Chadwickus


Hi, by chance can you see my avatar?
I can see it in my profile area, but can't see it in my posts.

reply to post by Keymaster1


No avatar that I can see.

reply to post by Chadwickus


I think it just worked.
I can see it now!
I had to delete a previous mess up I put in yesterday, before reading instructions!
I tried to put in a animated gif before realizing it was 900k. in size.
big no-no
thanx

the ghost of Meier will haunt ufology for all of eternity

:shk:


the wedding cake ufo is a bunch of junk glued together and the main base of the POS is a container lid. even his wife said that's what it is. you can hear her talk about it at about the 5 minute mark in this video..

www.dailymotion.com...

everything else has been identified and just about everything you need to know can be found in these links...

www.iigwest.com...

www.iigwest.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 11-11-2009 by easynow]

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by Annee
I believe Billy Meier did have an encounter -- similar to Joseph Smith.
I personally think the same evolved beings contacted both of these men.
I think because Billy couldn't keep his mouth shut - - so they moved on.
To prove his encounter/experience - - he then created fake proof.
Take it from there.

Modified post, taking out blank lines.

No.
That's not how it went down.
A few saucers left over from WWII Germany or other WWII Europe development or Von Braun development in New Mexico in the 40s
happened to have student pilots in Switzerland as Meier films them.

Oh really! And you were there to witness this? Of course it is possible Billy filmed something. Actually I believe he filmed something. That's not what I'm referring to.

I have personally seen a flying saucer - broad daylight - clear skies. So I am not debunking the reality of ETs in crafts.

I stand by what I believe. In my opinion - - - the similarities in Joseph Smith's experience - - parallels that of Billy Meier. I believe Billy did have the experience he claims.

But - with no proof - he would never be able to convince anyone or prove it. So he "faked proof".

I believe his experience was real. I do not believe the saucers are real.

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Annee

Why is it funny?

Perfectly believable and logical to me.

Sorry I should have clarified...

Its funny because you hit the nail right on the head

Oh OK. But I do believe he had the experience of meeting evolved beings.

However - I don't believe for one second they did the Kodak Moment for him.

reply to post by Chadwickus


Hey, I even figured out the background thing!

reply to post by Keymaster1


Bravo!

it's quite easy once you know how huh?

Allisone,

You picked easy targets to try and discredit all of Maiers pics.

I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would ever try and defend a lot of what has been put forward.

My view is that the guy went off his rocker, whether as a result of earlier experiences, flashing dollar signs or being hit with a ray gun whatever, it doesn't necessarily discredit other pictures or video especially from earlier periods.

I'll get a link for some others and would then welcome your views, in the meantime if you have any others ?

You really only need to point out one single thing to prove Meier is a hoaxer

Just bring up the dinosaur and female alien images. Meier and friends said these were released as dis-info, right? Just ask one little thing:

How come they all said they were genuine images until they were proven fake?

Every time an image of his is proven fake, they say it's a dis-info release when they were more than happy to call those exact images genuine any other time. Prove them fake and you get the "oh those are obvious fake dis-info images released to hurt Meier" excuse like they knew the entire time.

Originally posted by chunder
Allisone,

You picked easy targets to try and discredit all of Maiers pics.

I'm not sure anyone in their right mind would ever try and defend a lot of what has been put forward.

My view is that the guy went off his rocker, whether as a result of earlier experiences, flashing dollar signs or being hit with a ray gun whatever, it doesn't necessarily discredit other pictures or video especially from earlier periods.

I'll get a link for some others and would then welcome your views, in the meantime if you have any others ?

If what you claim is true, that he once was legit, but then became a hoaxer, then it still totally eliminates any credibility he had in the first place. The fact that this clown was once looked upon in such high regard by so many, only strengthens the argument of aliens being a fake phenomenon and creates more skeptics and debunkers.

I used to be a believer at one time because I never paid enough attention. Watching more closely over the years though I have become a skeptic. Seeing some people defend the idea that aliens are zipping around in UFO's made from flywheels and 4 Barrel Carburetors just compounds my current beliefs. Who said we are the ones stealing and using alien tech, when they have been using ours all along

reply to post by ALLis0NE


i have always heard the name billy meier but never did any research and i have to say...

THAT IS SOME OF THE MOST HILLARIOUSLY FAKE # I HAVE EVER SEEN

i don't even know why anyone would have to 'expose' this. if someone looks at what is obviously some metal junk sitting 6 inches in front of the camera with a house in the backround and wants to see a 40 foot long craft, then let them. there's not hope.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by Annee
I believe Billy Meier did have an encounter -- similar to Joseph Smith.
I personally think the same evolved beings contacted both of these men.
I think because Billy couldn't keep his mouth shut - - so they moved on.
To prove his encounter/experience - - he then created fake proof.
Take it from there.

Modified post, taking out blank lines.

No.
That's not how it went down.
A few saucers left over from WWII Germany or other WWII Europe development or Von Braun development in New Mexico in the 40s
happened to have student pilots in Switzerland as Meier films them.

This discovery must be crushed as secret agents must make the Meier
event look foolish. Their work seemed too easy but don't think they
were dismissed.

I'd say only the light bending clam shell video seems a good unknown
and similar to Mexico film clam shell UFO. Acceptable to Tesla drive
saucers are women pilots as I suspect the bright bight and UV outside
the UFO at times also appears inside the craft and requires special
outfits.

HUH?#?!#? Did you remember your medication this morning?

reply to post by InTrueFiction


I read(either here or on disclosetv) that some skeptics tried to recreate the pictures and could not.
also,how about the letters sent to the government over 30
years ago about events that 90% were right.
they just had on this site that with the x-ray technology that meier's photos were
real.
Not that I'm a billy meier follower but it happens so often that somebody will
say that they debunked something (and do not have any proof just a theory)and then assume
all the evidence is fake also.




[edit on 12-11-2009 by zigoapex]

[edit on 12-11-2009 by zigoapex]