The dangerous aspects of psychic infatuation

reply to post by lagenese


Ok... so a few things...

1. Much of the info I have channeled has been correct and led to success. To assume it's patently accurate or inaccurate is just silly.

2. I do agree that the focus should be less on the information being received and more on the mechanism. My research has led me to believe most of this comes from "the unconscious" within ourselves. Though that's just an opinion.

3. Psychic infatuation, as you term it, can only occur if one believes in an authority outside of oneself. Learn to trust yourself and require nothing from anything external (spiritually and emotionally) and you will be fine. Best way to prevent that is to understand that YOU create every sensation you have of your world.


4. Lastly, what you describe as Psychic infatuation sounds a lot like the condition of most people who follow a religion.

[edit on 14-11-2009 by HunkaHunka]

Thanks for your input. I also have channeled many times with entities from the astral world, without allowing any kind of authority on me.

All the experiences i had led me to know all the inner workings of the human psyche, but the price to pay was terrible. The initiation i went through was very hard, but i am ok now. I also have learned, again through my own experiences, that the mind is dominated and will remain in a state of domination from the invisible spheres as long as we remain in the 3rd density.

As long as we, as souls, have not completed our experiences and reached higher conscious states, we will remain in the infernal cycles of life and death. The cycles are necessary, for the development of the ego and to the ultimate transmutation of the ego.

When you are aware of the domination, you are less affected by it and ultimately, the domination ends and you can move on to other levels of evolution.

I would call what you describe either possession or oppression...both of which are caused by demonic spirits. Messing about with any king of "psychic" powers, spirit communication, etc., is dangerous. Period. I speak from experience as a former medium.

Kristine
www.kristinemcguire.com

Disclaimer: My views. Not trying to offend hard core Christians who are against abilities. If you do not want to hear this, please skip. I'm not here to debate it-Just to share my beliefs to inspire those who do believe already.


I would classify infatuation more so having to do with obsession. People that cannot cope with their daily lives without consulting the Other Side or a psychic. As a Medium I have to monitor how many times a person is allowed to get a reading from me. I make sure they wait at least a half a year or a year as ideal. My readings come from the highest good and give insight into obstacles that people are havig difficulties with. I call it guidance because there is nothing that is set in stone and my spirit guides never want to interfere in our lives when we can accomplish something on our own. Everyone though, at times, needs a teacher to show them some wisdom along the way.
There are people naturally born with the gift of prophecy and communication. For Christians out there, Jesus promised that his disciples and we would be able to do all the things he did and greater things (John 1:50). Jesus communed with Moses and Elijah after they had died. So it is one of th egifts he passed on.
Today those with gifts are told they are with demons and should be careful or end what they do. Funnily enough, Jesus was met with the same attitude-an example in the bible shows of him healing another person and getting yelled at.
"He is possessed by Beelzebub [Satan]! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons." Jesus replied, "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come." (John 3: 23-26). He is saying that if we are working towards the good than it cannot possibly come from evil or else evil has divided itself and shall fall apart.

I won't get into the old test. There are many reasons we do not follow it today , since Jesus' teachings are of the most importance now. (Example: Leviticus rules aren't followed now).

Of course, the bible also warns that if you do not have loveIt is useless.All abilities can fail or will eventually cease, but love is forever and the most important.
(1 Corinthians 13:8).



Joel 2:28, "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My Spirit upon ALL flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions."



Romans 12:5-9, "We, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us. Let he whose gift is prophecy, prophesy according to the proportion of faith; If ministry let him WAIT on his ministering: or he that teaches, upon teaching; Or he that exhorts, on exhortation: he that gives, let him do so with simplicity; he that rules, with diligence; he that shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Let love be sincere and without pretense".

(See Corinthians 14:1-6 )/


I sincerely believe there are those like myself, born with a very loving gift which is to help and benifit others. As a child I saw spirits-My spirit guide which has a few years ago saved my life andd the lives of others.

There are dangers to communication. There is evil out there. The bible even has a quote about how we need to discern spirits. Test them it says.
Forcing communication-using ouija boards and seeking out lower level entities will surely hurt your energy. There are safe ways to work on our intuitive side and safe ways to communicate with the highest good-meditation.

Joseph and his dreams in the bible...amazing wasn't it? I have this ability as well. I couldn't stop the premonitions if I tried. It's funny because my dreams are often very symbolic and takes some thinking to understand-Just as Joseph had to interpret the symbolism in his and others dreams. This has helped me understand other people's dreams when it is sent from a higher power-or the Other Side. Those with very vivid dreams may be receiving messages from the Other Side that are there to help. Dreaming is what I recommend to people who want communication. It is safe.




love and light all. and I hope most of you will see the good in this type of thing when receiving the readings I am giving on this board.




Nothing is either good or bad until it is decided-thought-then action.

A knife-In the hands of a robber is bad
in the hands of a doctor is good

Speach-In the hands of a child -cute?
In the hands of an activist good
In the hands of Hitler?-was bad.

and so on.

[edit on 7-12-2009 by Zerra]

Just because information received through these channels turns out true or seemingly beneficial to ones objectives does not mean it is good or coming from a good source. It is arrogant for people to believe they really have any idea what they're monkeying with. My conscience and intuition tell me that these are all malevolent beings fooling people with all sorts of trickery in a war for souls and life energy. I wish it was as apparent to everyone. Positive messages come to you in dreams and visions that are completely different than channeling.

could you not create your own system of 'magick'?

make it 10000 times easier than say crowleys nonsense,

write your own rules that your self created entities will ALWAYS abide by,

and if they don't, you know they're not what u thought & most likely manipulating you for their own agendas?

seems a simple solution.

I have totem animals, and when I accidentally decided the elk was one of them when it actually wasn't, I was plagued by some disturbing creatures in my mind space, dreams and began hearing little footsteps scurrying about behind me when i walked.... I ditched the elk related ritual/cermony/spells ditched the belief & my head/mind/self went back to normal again.. managed to get myself out of that one ok

my headspace is a much nicer place to be in these days. Although i gotta admit, hitting a tree at 80kms in a car as i did a while back, seemed to have knocked a bit of sense into me, or a bit of delusion out of me

-B.M

[edit on 7/12/09 by B.Morrison]

Originally posted by B.Morrison
could you not create your own system of 'magick'?

make it 10000 times easier than say crowleys nonsense,

write your own rules that your self created entities will ALWAYS abide by,

and if they don't, you know they're not what u thought & most likely manipulating you for their own agendas?

seems a simple solution.

I have totem animals, and when I accidentally decided the elk was one of them when it actually wasn't, I was plagued by some disturbing creatures in my mind space, dreams and began hearing little footsteps scurrying about behind me when i walked.... I ditched the elk related ritual/cermony/spells ditched the belief & my head/mind/self went back to normal again.. managed to get myself out of that one ok

my headspace is a much nicer place to be in these days. Although i gotta admit, hitting a tree at 80kms in a car as i did a while back, seemed to have knocked a bit of sense into me, or a bit of delusion out of me

-B.M

[edit on 7/12/09 by B.Morrison]

I do not work with spells or magic to know whether it can bring in anything negative, but wanted to ask what gave you the impression it was negative?

In the totem animal/guide belief system it is well knwon that an animal that bites, stomps, stings etc you is claiming you as their own in order for you to pay attention. Sometimes plagueing your mind is just a mere way to tell you that you are missing the message. There are animal guides that come and go from a person's life-If it was a temp guide it may have finished already and left. Sometimes my guides make me feel very anxious or bother me when they want me to pay attention to something I am doing that is careless or they are warning me. You sure the animal wasn't going around you frantically trying to stop you from having an accident? Elk's seem to an animal I'd see standing tall as a tree-antlers are bark-like.

[edit on 8-12-2009 by Zerra]

Originally posted by Zerra
You sure the animal wasn't going around you frantically trying to stop you from having an accident? Elk's seem to an animal I'd see standing tall as a tree-antlers are bark-like.

[edit on 8-12-2009 by Zerra]

I have no idea how you knew that but i'm impressed.
You may be right, I did infact have a car accident at the exact time this was going on, and afterwards, no more elk.

btw, tall as a tree, close, but think more a 3 level building, front shoulder width to match a building also, it was very huge & intimidating..

-B.M

Your OP goes this way: ...

By definition, psychic infatuation is the beliefs and reliance on trans-communications that influences the judgment on interpretation of events.
This process begins with the opening of the psyche to inter-dimensional entities (astral), or if you prefer, astral merger with these entities.
One needs to be careful not to let those trans-communications take over our own “knowing”.

reply to post by lagenese




from my viewpoint...

'inter-dimensional' is not the proper term in this case
...I would use the term: Inner - dimensional


because the internal 'psyche' of ones self...is communicating via the 2 internal Portals , which we know as the Pineal and Hypothalamus

www.naturalhealthschool.com...

see Link for a graphic & clinical description of the brain & the 'parts' which constitute a normal Human's 'third-eye'
and the portal for communication/'channeling' with 'inner-dimensional' entities.


thanks

Yep i found that too, i destroyed my ego i think when i left school.

Be careful what you wish for in life is such a true saying, lol.

Originally posted by B.Morrison

Originally posted by Zerra
You sure the animal wasn't going around you frantically trying to stop you from having an accident? Elk's seem to an animal I'd see standing tall as a tree-antlers are bark-like.

[edit on 8-12-2009 by Zerra]

I have no idea how you knew that but i'm impressed.
You may be right, I did infact have a car accident at the exact time this was going on, and afterwards, no more elk.

btw, tall as a tree, close, but think more a 3 level building, front shoulder width to match a building also, it was very huge & intimidating..

-B.M

You mentioned an accident above sillies ^^ Though Our power animals are ..indeed powerful I really don't have the feeling it was meant to hurt you-Only warn you. I feel now you may have a black bear around you. (There is more too). Bears come with dreams and nurturing young /protecting those we love. Might have to google black bear for more of their wisdom.

reply to post by lagenese

It’s not the occult sciences that must be blamed; it is the maturity of the people seeking the knowledge from them which is the real problem.

This may be why, in the past, only a handful of people (shamans, priests, priestesses, etc.) were allowed the knowledge to access this information. That's why they were called 'Wise Ones'. It takes wisdom to be able to discern what is helpful, harmful, and how to use that information to help others. Maybe that is why is isn't wise for just everyone to have access to esoteric knowledge. There are too many people who might abuse it due to ignorance, greed, intentionally harming others, or just plain immaturity like you said.

Originally posted by Zerra
You mentioned an accident above sillies ^^ Though Our power animals are ..indeed powerful I really don't have the feeling it was meant to hurt you-Only warn you. I feel now you may have a black bear around you. (There is more too). Bears come with dreams and nurturing young /protecting those we love. Might have to google black bear for more of their wisdom.

I don't call them power animals, because its my mind, I see them as spirit guide taking on animal form...so in that sense, I don't think of them specifically in terms of totem animals either, to me, they are spirit guides.

But yes, I'm unsure about the intentions of the elk, i just know the visions voices & dreams that came with it scared the absolute # out of me.

I felt like i was losing my mind. after the car crash (months ago) I feel like I've shed some of the b.s & feel better than ever....

big black bear? that sucks...why? because I was talking about cats and dogs with a mate and we were discussing what non dog/cat animals, fit in the dog/cat category, I.E hyenas, fox, jackyl.....we decided they were all 'dog' animals because they had a snout...then i suddenly saw a bear & remembered they have snouts too, and before i got a chance to think about it, the conversation changed. So what I find troubling, is that an image of a bear was in my imagination last night. And I felt a presence next to me in bed that night, I'd brought a tin back from my mates house, I'm pretty sure my mate lives in a haunted house, its a historical property which is protected by law & can't legally be renovated on, theres an old toy rocking horse 50's era style, in what i imagine was the bedroom of a young child upstairs, no one goes upstairs at all anymore. too creepy.

Just quietly, my mate has micro 'episodes' sometimes where he 'loses his #' and once I swear I saw his eyes blacken over with an oily substance when i mentioned reptilian nonsense to him, I brought it up as a joke but to look over & see his eyes like a djin possessed human, freaked me out, didnt' mention it tho, he's my best friend, and I can't imagine him being able to cope with me saying crap about that sort of thing.

The presence I felt next to me in bed was accompanied with the mental image of a deteriorating decapitated head looking in my direction from the pillow next to my head...I scolded myself for imagining things like that & told myself I was being silly & it was all due to the stress I was going through as I had to appear in court today. But still. I don't need that kind of #, but interestingly, I thought to myself "I gotta get this tin back to that house" and the wierd stuff stopped.



-B.M

P.S)alright, just used a smudging stick, Tibetan bell & singing bowl on the tin & the affected rooms....hopefully that will do the trick still taking the tin back to my mates house tho, but thinking I'll go smudge his house too. If he's putting up with what i did last night, but 24/7, then its probably a good idea...

P.P.S) just found the book & deck of cards I got my animals from.
Its called

"medicine cards: the discovery of power through the way of animals"
by Jamie Sams & David Carson.
Illustrated by Angela C. Werneke.

WHATS FREAKY ABOUT THAT THO IS.........

The publishing company is 'Bear & Company" Santa fe, New Mexico.
Opposite to the title page is a picture of a bear in the middle of a dream catcher with animal bones, a feather stones & a bag of something hanging from them.

think u were right about bears. time for some research......

[edit on 9/12/09 by B.Morrison]

Power animals, spirit guides, spirit helpers, and totem animals are all one in the same-different labels from different cultures. Power animals and guides I use interchangeably. ^_^ However, there are human guides who shapeshift as animals too. Some of us including myself have a shapeshifter guide-human with animal form. That being said, we do have animals with us-pure and innocent in their truest of forms.They are very intelligent in their true state-spirit state. Without an Earthly body there are no limitations.
Elk may have been acting as a shadow totem. They are animals that bring fear that we need to overcome. This can be researched so i won't get into that.


Animal guides are not bad though, it is all within our minds and attitudes how we receive their wisdom. Many people fear the unknown and fear creates a lot of negative energy that builds and builds until we can no longer see the positive. or example, someone who sees a cross fall off the wall mysteriously become scared and when people are scared the first thought its 'evil' and they think 'demon'. Instead, it was merely their grandma trying to say they were around. They were very Catholic and wanted to point out the cross in a way she actually could bring attention to it. The living person though, builds up fear and the negativity takes over. Their minds playa role in the rest.

I say this not to offend but to help spread how much more positivity and protection we have out there. Help many people ignore.

How come the bear sucks? I don't know that it has to do with your friends eyes or home-seems to be a seperate issue.Bears are extremely appreciated guides as their wisdom is strong and respected among Aboriginal cultures. They protect the world of dreams. They bring vivid dreams and msgs within them. They protect the mind. Could be your friend had their pupils dilate. It turns the eyes black. Could the head decapitation be imagination from the fear of being in a home with a lot of energy ? (As you call it haunted).

The more we find teh positive energy within helpers and the more we concentrate on being protected, the less we will see the negative b.c it starts to lose power.

What I mean, is that energy is alive and real- We create it with our thoughts. The moment you believe something is there to get you-the energy around you obeys you (It is not an energy with a soul-but alive all the same). The less we give it credit it disapears.


There are what we psychics call Echos as well. Many people get this mixed up with live ghosts. Echos are strong energy left behind an emotional event. There are good echos left over from laughter, there are bigger negative echos left from murder or accidents etc..The energy replays the event over and over again. It may cause the living to be tired, moody, and lack sleep-but no souls are there to attack. Cleansing is necessary.


perhaps try and find out what the bear is giving you-are you having dreams? Are their loved one's that you feel you want to protect or nurture? Should you be eating more fruit? Being balanced between the land and the water (where they catch fish).

Do you have negative entities around you? I do not know. I did not sense any personally.

I do wish you well, on whatever you choose to believe-belief is powerful-as I said. Energy is created by belief (Law of attraction).
I wish you well on your court date and I hope everything turns out for the highest good.

It's up 2 you if you take anything of my words.

PS- just read your edited version. That is very cool about th book. It is a wonderful book and will give you much insight. Keep exploring the world of the animal as I think YOU connect well with them.

[edit on 9-12-2009 by Zerra]

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thanks, yes your words have been very helpful from the get go. The thing that leave me stunned, is you're being general & somewhat vague, but somehow, you're spot on about everything you've said...that's cool.

headless image prob had more to do with watching Apocalypto the other week...actually...does that tell you anything? the head was most likely a Mayan, the be-headedness remind me of the slaves/sacrifices to the gods, but the damage to the face reminded me of the guy who died when a jaguar ate his face.

also the 'haunted' house is his, not mine, I was in bed @ home lol...

But you're right about the bear, I have 4 animals & 3 blank 'shields" for all directions but did not do 'left side, right side & within' but had been wondering what the animals were, maybe its the bear, maybe the bear is accountable for the incredible peace of mind, clarity & focus I'm able to muster these days, only since the crash has it been like this either.

Also after all the freaky stuff last night, It was followed up by the first dream i can remember in months & it was a beauty...very good dream if that's the bear doing that (the dream), I dig it

About my friend, the rational part of me put the eyes down to dilated pupils & bad lighting in the room. But I also think he's being affected by that house in some way.

about the book...forgot what thread I was in thought i was posting @ totem animals thread lol....

Thanks for your input & insight & kind words & best wishes re:courts

P.L.U.R.I (2 U)

(the only deity I claim as self created - the personification of "Peace Love Unity Respect & Integrity"....don't know what it looks like yet..but look forward to finding out )

-B.M

P.S)BAHAHAHAHA! thats what i get for not paying attention to my own posts!
seriously, it was only just then that i realised what u meant by 'it was in your post' silly!

yes, very silly of me!....and somewhat slow....

[edit on 9/12/09 by B.Morrison]
Just read your note @ end of last post re: my edit & the book, thanks! yes it seems to work for me, I mean I remember once i was suicidal a few years back when my first love left me, I asked for a sign, stayed up all night drinking cheap wine...what a rhyme! sorry....back on topic...but yeah..tiny wee little bird flew past about 30 metres over head, made a noise, caught my attention, a little feather, not a flight feather but the little soft fragile ones, spiralled, quite literally spiralled all that distance through the air, as it got to be a few metres above me I held my hand out in front of me & it spiralled straight into my open palm. I swear on all that is sacred that I did not move my hand AT ALL and the feather went straight to it. THAT was cool, and kept me alive

[edit on 9/12/09 by B.Morrison]

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Ignore the bear. The truth is in the wind for B. Morrison. It was very upset that B. Morrison pays such attention to the bear. 2 compelled to tell B. Morrison that.

When i first read you heading i thought it might be about remote viewers spying on goverment and alien activities.I guess i was wrong about it.

Originally posted by 2compelled
reply to post by B.Morrison

 

Ignore the bear. The truth is in the wind for B. Morrison. It was very upset that B. Morrison pays such attention to the bear. 2 compelled to tell B. Morrison that.

dont fark around with me man. this is my headspace. not a game. Now I'm confused about whether to A.) take that seriously or not B.) and if that has to do with the reconnect festival & my "meeting with the moon"
(if you're words are legit, u should know what i meant by that)

What bothers me the most, is that, as mentioned by Zerra, If u decide something is real, its as good as real. faith manifests........

So do mental disorders.

I can't afford to be so flippant about my beliefs anymore.

Its like 11:11, 23 & other symbolic recurrences in life, its 'meant' to mean something.....IF u decide it does....

Psychologists talk about 'priorities' those who put the event of 'noticing the number 23' high up on their list of priorities, will get exactly that.

What u care the most about is what u get, they use this idea to explain to people why you shouldn't compare your life to others & let it depress you because the only difference between u & them is your prioraties,

maybe the doctor down the road has the nice boat that u don't have....

but then at the same time you've got the better relationship with your son than he does with his.....

So if you start mentioning the 'wind' and I thought about it long enough, I'd be able to find a way of rationalising what you've said as being possible.

which is dangerous.

-B.M

P.S)
I don't channel, I don't believe it is what it claims to be. I've met 'things' before, and they weren't happy about it...nor has my personal experience ever come close to matching the descriptions I've come across of 'different places' and 'things you can talk to'.......in fact nothing would please me more than to find another human who has info about where I went & who I talked to. But after seeking as long as I have, its beginning to look doubtful. The only other person I know about who could achieve what i did as a child was an ancient philosopher who held his breath until he died. And I can't talk to him, he's long gone.

[edit on 9/12/09 by B.Morrison]

Perhaps your mind focused on certain images that symbolized something to you within the show/movie. Headless have any meaning for you symbolically? The saying "Losing your head/mind" Stress? Seperating mind from body. Have you made sacrifices in your life lately? Either big or small sacrifices-Having to do things for the good or out of duty that you do not necessarily want or have to do?





That is wonderful you received a sign. the Other Side truly lovs us and wants what is best for us. Birds are their messengers and they connect with the spirit world.


"I've come across of 'different places' and 'things you can talk to'" I may be able to help. I travel in astral a lot and freely talk to many souls who are all diverse (species).