Is this what they call sleep paralysis?

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


I would not describe it as a vampire bite, it was more like a clutch and "it” grabbed me around front. Any who I guess that is irrelevant. I do not think it was supernatural, but the experience was like you described, it was like I was awake but dreaming and frozen.

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by loner007

 

SP can result from many sleep disorders, one being narcolepsy. In addition, one may experience it more when their circadian rhythm is off, and they don't practice good sleep habits.

In closing, stop telling me I'm wrong when it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Well you are wrong and i quote from wiki on the mechanics of SP

REM atonia occurs during REM sleep, thus preventing the body from manifesting movements made in the subject's dreams. Very little is known about the physiology of sleep paralysis However, some[who?] have suggested that it may be linked to post-synaptic inhibition of motor neurons in the pons region of the brain In particular, low levels of melatonin may stop the depolarization current in the nerves, preventing the stimulation of the muscles and any consequent enactment of the dream activity by the body (e.g. preventing a sleeper from flailing his or her legs when dreaming about running).

every single human being has this happen to them when they dont they are likely to suffer from sleep walking sleep sex these types of disorders..are due to the body not being paralysised

[edit on 8-11-2009 by loner007]

wow, I can't believe some of these responses.
What you described is nothing like what I have experienced, but since at different times in my life my SP experiences changed some it is possible that it was SP.
Where you sleeping on your back? One thing I have found is it never happens if I am sleeping on my stomach.

Edit to add, I have never been able to scream during one.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by calstorm]

en.wikipedia.org...

Sleep paralysis
Humming, roaring, hissing, rushing and buzzing noises are frequent in conjunction with sleep paralysis (SP). This happens when the REM atonia sets in sooner than usual, before the person is fully asleep, or persists longer than usual, after the person has (in other respects) fully awoken.[17] SP is reportedly very frequent among narcoleptics. It occurs frequently in about 6% of the rest of the population, and occurs occasionally in 60%.[28] In surveys from Canada, China, England, Japan and Nigeria, 20 to 60% of individuals reported having experienced SP at least once in their lifetime.[29][30] The paralysis itself is frequently accompanied by additional phenomena. Typical examples include a feeling of being crushed or suffocated, electric ‘tingles’ or ‘vibrations’, imagined speech and other noises, the imagined presence of a visible or invisible entity, and sometimes intense emotion: fear or euphoria and orgasmic feelings.[29][31] SP has been proposed as an explanation for at least some alien abduction experiences and shadow people hauntings.[32]


Bold emphasis mine. Now I'd like for you to explain the bold sections. What is the cause for it being early or lasting longer then it should?

reply to post by calstorm


I've maybe experienced it once or twice on my side or stomach, but the majority of it happens when I'm on my back. Also, I'm able to detect when it comes on as my dreams will either go pitch black or my dreams will take on a more "evil" vibe (however I don't consider it evil). I also experience the buzzing/vibrations that many people also experience.

Originally posted by loner007

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders.

Well no that is wrong. Sp does not come from any type of sleep disorder. You are correct in saying its a biological process. Sp happens to everybody when we sleep. It is to stop us from hurting ourselves when we dream. Most people dont even know they had SP unless they wake up whilst the body is still paralysised. Waking up during this is not a disorder but some brain functions are still in sleep mode and just takes a while before they come out of sleep.

I tried saying the same thing, lol- it is not a disorder at all- someone would rather post crappy links to people having sex with an succubus than talk about the facts of sleep paralysis- which is what the OP was asking about.

reply to post by EMPIRE


And what is your point? are you saying Sp is a disorder? no it isnt sp is a natural part of the body functions you already said that urself.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by loner007]

reply to post by calstorm


No I was on my side. I did not scream out loud because I could not. I screamed it in my mind. If that makes any since at all. I have no idea if it was SP or not I just wanted some information on what others thought it might have been.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by Melissa101]

reply to post by loner007


I've already said what it is and I've already said what disorders it can be linked to. Address the bold text in the previous post and then we can move on.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by EMPIRE]

reply to post by lifecitizen


No one said it was a disorder. Moreover, the OP said she had "erotic" feelings when it happened, and I'm telling her many people do not consider her experiences to be SP. In addition, some people claim to have had sex with incubbi/succubi (read the link) and posting it was meant to provide clarity as it relates to eroticism and what what she experienced.

Less typing. More reading. Heed these instructions.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by EMPIRE]

I've had a few and everytime it's a different sensation for me.

The first one I had involved a really bright orange light that flooded the entire room I couldn't move at all or even make a sound when I was screaming because my mouth was shut.

the second one involved voices but there was no lights just a woman calling my name but I couldn't see her. When I woke up my cat was next to me starring at me. I asked the cat what it wanted I was so tired

the third one involved a man with a knife at my throat telling me he hated me and f.u. and all of that. Interestingly enough my will to survive forced me out of peralysis and I had his throat in my hands...then poof I woke up

the last one I call the blue lights and shadows incident and I even wrote a song about it. I woke up to my alarm clock at 4 am and I turned it off cuz it shouldn't have been going off went back to the bed and then suddenly the room filled with blue lights and I couldn't move...then I went through my wall and all I could see was shadows of little people being cascaded on the wall by the blue lights...they kept saying over and over "try not to worry every thing will be fine." came out to be a pretty good song I might say

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by lifecitizen

 

No one said it was a disorder. Moreover, the OP said she had "erotic" feelings when it happened, and I'm telling her many people do not consider her experiences to be SP. In addition, some people claim to have had sex with incubbi/succubi (read the link), and by posting it was meant to provide clarity as it relates to eroticism and what what she experienced.

Less typing. More reading. Heed these instructions.

Personally, I believe SP to be a natural biological process resulting from one or several sleep disorders.

your words, not mine- whereby you said sleep paralysis results from a disorder.

The OP had sleep paralysis- and your crappy links are not 'clarity', to the contrary, you are probably confusing her.

reply to post by lifecitizen


Yes, it can result from one of several disorders, and I mentioned these disorders. Moreover, address the bold sections in one of the previous posts. In regards to your comment about the link being crap, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, it has shown that many people do not consider SP to be "erotic" and that people who experience the form of "eroticism" the OP did, which is different from "orgasmic" in SP are two different things. This is why the link was posted, but logic is obviously not on your side and critical reading is something you lack.

Your problem not mine.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by EMPIRE]

And finally,

www.medterms.com...

Sleep paralysis strikes as a person is moving into or out of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep, the deepest part of sleep. During REM sleep the body is largely disconnected from the brain leaving the body paralyzed. Sleep paralysis is the result of premature (or persistent) mind-body disconnection as one is about to enter into (or exit from) REM sleep.

Why is the section in bold happening? This is something I've previously asked yet no reply.

Sleep paralysis occurs most often after jet lag or periods of sleeplessness that interrupt the normal REM patterns.

Which I've stated.

Finally, is there a correlation or causation when one looks at Rapid Eye Movement Behavior Disorder and SP?

[edit on 8-11-2009 by EMPIRE]

The 1st time I had sleep paralysis I was still in the Marine Corps and I was about 20. I remember I didn't eat lunch because I was exhausted so I went back to the barracks and took a nap. I had a single rack that was by the door , and I remember feeling this intense fear for no reason , It was purely irrational but I felt like DEATH itself was behind me. I was sleeping on my side facing the wall with my back to the room and I remember looking at the wall in front of me and seeing a huge shadow being cast on the wall. The funny thing was that in my mind it seemed perfectly normal to have a giant shadow on the wall. I wanted to look back because I knew something terrible was behind me but I couldn't move. I remember looking at the wall in front of me and I couldn't get my mind around what was going on. I was awake but I couldn't move , I see a giant shadow and feel evil behind me but can't look over my shoulder. Eventually , I was able to move again (after fighting with every fiber of my being) and I turned around and saw both of my roommates in their bunks sleeping and nothing else in the room. I think at that time my mind rationalized it as dreaming , I KNOW IT WASN'T A DREAM.

My next one was about 3 years ago , I had already had my 1st lucid dream and I remember not being able to see but feeling that something was trying to pull me through the wall into the floor by my hands. I couldn't speak or move and It was sheer terror. I remember trying to yell at my wife but she was not waking up , I honestly thought I was being dragged to hell.

Since then It's happened a couple of more times but when it happens now , my mind knows what it is. I still feel like something is pulling me somewhere but I don't fight it anymore , It's more like "Great SP again , maybe I'll get to go lucid tonight =)"

Lucid dreaming and sp go hand and hand with me now. usually the sp comes first and if I relax I go into a lucid dream or obe. (which is a whole nother topic)

In all honesty I'm not sure what it is , I think maybe sp is just a stage of sleep where your mind is awake and your body isn't , the lack of control causes you to panic which may manifest things. (but at the same time I KNOW WHAT I SAW with the 1st episode) I found that Instead of fearing SP I began to embrace it when I got it because I knew I had a good chance of going lucid. (Which is awesome)

I have read somewhere that sleep paralysis is caused when some one wakes too quickly and the body is still in sleep mode.But i can not really understand that because some people move about while they are asleep.They might roll over or move there arms and legs.How can you be paralysis in you sleep if you can move your body.It does not add up.I suffered from some thing different.In alien abductions some people may wake up paralysis.In my case there was a sence of fear.In my later years i experimented with sleep paralysis.I discovered some very intreasting things.The sence of fear brough on my paralysis.I can place a fake sence of fear into my mind and it will start the paralysis.This would be a fear relating to alien abductions.So how can i just trigger paralysis like that.I believe the alien implants do it.The implants detect fear and paralysis you.Its a automatic response within the implant when abductions occure.Naturally you will sence something and fear triggering the autoresponse in the implant.Some scary nightmares may trigger the autoresponce too.So when the aliens come to get you.Your already paralysis by the alien implant.In another case while paraylsis i managed to get the streagth to move my arm just slightly.By doing this i broke the whole paraylsis and returned to normal again.How could i do this if most people believe the brain causes the paralysis.Not the brain.its the implant.If it was my brain i would not be able to move my arm at all.This just gos to show the streagth of the paralysis is not that strong at all and can be broken.

[edit on 8-11-2009 by GORGANTHIUM]

Sleep paralysis is a normal phase of healthy sleep. During this time, the body is disengaged from the brain, so to speak. Sometimes when it happens there is a sort of sudden jerk (called a 'myoclonic jerk'). Often we're dreaming of falling at that moment, so we jerk awake unpleasantly.

Most of the time we never notice this sleep paralysis because it comes after we're unconscious, and goes before we wake up. However, if we awaken suddenly we may find ourselves unable to move. I've had many episodes of this. The first few were terrifying; now they're just mildly annoying.

It is common to weave a dream around the experience. You may feel that someone or something is sitting on you, holding you down. That's often called a "night hag", as though it were a witch.

Incubi and sucubi are demons that come at night and engage the victim in sexual acts. My guess is that these are largely efforts to explain nocturnal emissions or erotic dreams, awakening while aroused, and so on. Especially if you were pure-hearted, such experiences must have been disturbing. Demons would be one way to explain how it could happen. An incubus is a male demon; a sucubus is a female.

This is definitely sleep paralysis. What happened was that you were in a "paralysed" state and these sensations sound similar to an incubus encounter.

I kinda don't know how true the legends are. I do believe that you can encounter some different things in sleep paralysis that do exceed something like a chemical playing tricks on your mind. Just don't be afraid of this sleep paralysis state. You can manifest a lot of really cool things like out of body experiences.

Don't listen to the people that tell you that you're dabbling in an evil occult experience. They're the worst. They'd have you believe that I'm the one that's promoting darkness by telling you to go with the flow and try out some new things within the sleep paralysis state, but you can benefit through this.

I'm not an expert in this. I'm just going with my own beliefs and experiences with sleep paralysis. In this state, fear manages to manifest in this state and a lot of odd things will occur. They can be totally random, and for the most part it's always freaky. Keep a clear mind and go with the flow. You can't get hurt. Remind yourself that you're strong.

Besides, you seem to be less creeped out by the concept of an otherworldly dude making out with your neck than having a natural sleep paralysis episode. Sounds like you almost enjoyed it. If you come across the dude again, tell him to bring flowers.

Who knows? This might be the beginning of a wonderful relationship between the Earthbound and the spiritual realm!

[edit on 8-11-2009 by Whine Flu]

Lol, this thread is funny. Not the OP, but the ensuing denigration of people supposedly "contributing" to the thread.

I'll state my opinion. It is that OP's experience is not SP. All of the SP experiences I have ever heard of occur when the person feels (or knows) they are awake. OP states several times that it was during a "dream". The fact that she’s in a mansion (I’m assuming she doesn’t live in a mansion in real life) in her dream goes more to the point of this being a dream. This is not SP but a weird, strange dream. It might benefit you, OP, to browse this website.

I’ve taken some terms from your description of your dream and listed what the interpretation from the above website’s database. Dreams are there to help us deal with things in our waking lives.

To see a mansion in your dream, symbolizes your greatest potential and growth. You may feel that your current situation or relationship is in a rut.

To dream that the doors are closed or locked, signify opportunities that are denied and not available to you or that you have missed out on.

To dream that you are locking doors, suggests that you are closing yourself off from others. You are hesitant in letting others in and revealing your feelings. It is indicative of some fear and low self-worth.

dreaming that you are paralyzed may mean you are feeling helpless or pinned down in some aspects or circumstances of your waking life. You may feel unable to deal with a situation or that you can't do or change anything.

That, along with the dream having a sexual nature (at least at the end) and you telling the “whatever it was” to "get the behind me satan", leads me to believe that you are closing yourself off from potentially pleasurable relationships because you are either in a rut or you are feeling unable to deal with circumstances that have you locked out of entering a pleasurable relationship.

Would SP also include visuals hallucinations? I can recall an experience I had afew months ago where I suddenly awoke to see a black arm pass over me, no less than 30 centimetres above my face. Funny thing about it is, I went back to sleep like nothing had happened. It was only the next day that I had realized what I had seen.

Any thoughts?