Alarming Info!!! Spanish Doctor Reveals Important Information About Swine Flu -

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Thank you WLP for the transcript... It will be a little easier sending this out in email form...

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Marshal Law is underway in Ukraine, and health care workers who oppose mandatory vaccinations and quarantines are facing arrests.

www.theflucase.com... orced-vaccination-and-quarantines-who-carries-out-coup-d-etat-under-pandemic-emergency-pretext&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

In other related news, a van carrying Baxter swine flu vaccinations crashed in Austria yesterday. There are now unconfirmed reports that the vaccinations carried "live" flu viruses. This is still unconfirmed, so may be just a rumor.

www.theflucase.com... ort&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en



[edit on 5-11-2009 by Angiras]

ok...so what better way to get rid of the populace that is conspiritorial by sending out disinfo about this virus...what if something is suppose to be released later on next year that actually kills people that DID NOT take the h1n1 flu shot??? and remember there are 5 different companies making the vaccine...what if 1 company is making the REAL vacccine for the elite and the rest are making the bad vaccine???

I tried to discuss this with my husband, who USED to be very open minded, but lately all he does is work his tail off and the only news he watches is the nightly tv news. He accused me of worrying too much, buying into BS conspiracy theory and said it will never happen in the US - let's see them try that in Montana.

I mention this because it seems, to me, like people are very open to discussion about this, or they just close down immediately and dismiss it all as conspiracy theory.

I've seen a lot of people waking up, but I've seen a lot of people just shutting DOWN on this one too. It seems WEIRD to me. Like media brainwashing is in full effect. People that are shutting down or staying asleep are the ones that are getting their news from TV.

They have already MANDATED vandatory vaccines for health care workers in NY. That has HAPPENED. There's a stay on it right now, a termporary one - but you can't say it won't happen in America when it has already happened, can you?

Originally posted by Angiras
In other related news, a van carrying Baxter swine flu vaccinations crashed in Austria yesterday. There are now unconfirmed reports that the vaccinations carried "live" flu viruses. This is still unconfirmed, so may be just a rumor.

If this would be true that a van "crashed" with live virus, then I'm finally 110% convinced that Baxter is on a mission and have a very special agenda to fill in this from the WHO "artificial" pandemic.

Now I'm only 100% convinced!

I mean! remember the package from Baxter that "exploded" on a fully packed train in Switzerland last winter? - I read about it in several MSM news articles and saw it on the news! - then the articles were suspiciously cleaned out from the net!

And then we have the 72kg of season flu-vaccine material that were containimated with live flu virus and killed those ferrets!

Man! If this last story is true? then Baxter need to be taken out of business for good!

Originally posted by cluedup
Obama bought shares in Baxter

In 2005, Barack Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in a biotech concern that was starting to develop a drug to treat avian flu, whose major investors included some of his biggest political donors.

What are Obama’s investments in biotech companies apparently developing the “bird” and “swine” flu vaccine?
July 19, 2009 at 9:06 pm

George W. Bush announced the International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza at the United Nations General Assembly on September 14, 2005, placing the US under UN and WHO law in the event of a pandemic “emergency”.

Earlier that year, in April, 2005, Barack Obama introduced the first comprehensive bill to deal with the bird flu threat, the Avian act. According to reports, Obama made significant investments in biotech companies involved in the development of bird and swine flu.

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Obama’s ties to Baxter in addition to Chicago HQ
February 22, 2005

“Less than two months after ascending to the United States Senate, Barack Obama bought more than $50,000 worth of stock in two speculative companies whose major investors included some of his biggest political donors.

One of the companies was a biotech concern that was starting to develop a drug to treat avian flu. In March 2005, two weeks after buying about $5,000 of its shares, Mr. Obama took the lead in a legislative push for more federal spending to battle the disease.”

“But he put $50,000 to $100,000 into an account at UBS, which his aides say was recommended to him by a wealthy friend, George W. Haywood, who was also a major investor in both Skyterra and AVI BioPharma, public securities filings show.”

“Within two weeks of his purchase of the biotech stock that Feb. 22, Mr. Obama initiated what he has called “one of my top priorities since arriving in the Senate,” a push to increase federal financing to fight avian flu.”

“His first step came on March 4, 2005, when the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved his request for $25 million to help contain the disease in Asia; the full Senate later approved that measure. And in April 2005, he introduced a bill calling for more research on avian flu drugs and urging the government to increase its stockpiles of antiviral medicines.

Mr. Obama repeated this call in a letter that Aug. 9 to Michael O. Levitt, the health and human services secretary. And in September 2005, Mr. Obama and Senator Tom Harkin, Democrat of Iowa, succeeded in amending another bill to provide $3.8 billion for battling the flu.

Meanwhile, the drug company in which he invested, AVI BioPharma, had been working to develop its own medicine to treat avian flu victims. In a conference call with Wall Street analysts on March 8, 2005, the company’s chairman, Denis R. Burger, said the firm was “aggressively going forward” with its avian flu research and hoped to work with federal agencies on it.”

April 28, 2005

“Senator Obama introduces the AVIAN Act (S. 969). Senator Obama introduces the first comprehensive bill to address the threat of an avian influenza pandemic.”

Obama warns of a flu pandemic in 2005

June 6, 2005

“Grounding a Pandemic

By BARACK OBAMA and RICHARD LUGAR”

“It is essential for the international community, led by the United States, to take decisive action to prevent a pandemic.”

“So what should we do? Recently, the World Health Organization called for more money and attention to be devoted to effective preventive action, appealing for $100 million.”

“Accelerating research into avian flu vaccines and antiviral drugs.”

“Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois, is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, is its chairman.”

birdflu666.wordpress.com...

Seems Obama and bird flu have quite a history!

www.marketwatch.com...

click on the 5y below the white box

then he probably lost his *ss on this stock ...above is a 5-year chart on that stock, and it looks like Obama is glad he kept his day job.

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I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING! we need to spread this word to everyone so they can see what the leaders of the world are doing to the people. Great find!! we need to take this world back.

Seems to me that this Baxter tainted vaccine was suppose to KICK OFF the pandemic and their plans got thwarted.

Instead of changing the plan, they changed the rule book and definition of pandemic so they could keep the plan in place, thus the disconnect and confusion around what is actually going on.... my $0.02.

Hello friends all over the world.

We now realize that forced vaccinations is a treath.
Here in my country all vaccinations are registred in a special register.
I assume all countries has one.

My idea is this:
Let's turn to The Hackers..! They will love it - great challenges..!
Let them destroy such sites and then go for the companies behind this madness..!

This is the site I need to get destroyed:
openpanvak.fhi.no...

Wow. Just got through all the vids. As noted above, that lady can talk.
That said, this was one of the clearest and most informative presentations I have seen in a long time. That she didn't provide exact numbers (but did reference where here numbers could be checked) doesn't detract from the message.

This information needs to spread. I noticed that as the sequence progressed (1/6, 2/6, 3/6 etc.) less and less people had viewed. This is a shame. There is some very heavy information in the later videos.

What a brave lady to speak out.

I noticed immediately when the MSM started the "Nearly 100 people have died!!!!!" type headlines that these numbers were significantly lower than the mortality rate of common flu. It's all how you spin it.

There is definitely something afoot.

Valuable and important information, so star and flagged. I've already distributed the info to some sites.

Originally posted by Greenblaz
While I can't view the video (I am at work). Can we verify that what she is saying is actually what is written in the subtitles?? Not seeing this video is really making me think "outside the box" and I want to cover ALL the angles.

Sorry if this has been brought up already.


JT

Coming from a spanish-speaking family, yes, it's actually a pretty good translation.

2nd line?

[edit on 5-11-2009 by badkarma90]

Originally posted by malcr

Originally posted by AllexxisF1

Wow a voice of reason! I was beginning to think the paranoids had taken over ATS again. Read the New Scientist this week for some informed Flu commentary instead of the hysterical nonsense that is posted here. I find it difficult to tell the difference between the excessive bulls..t here and that in certain tabloids.

I mean some of the paranoid rantings are soooooo illogical how can you possible believe it?

Granted the drug companies are not nice people out to make a buck in preference to healing folks BUT bottom line : the MORE people there are the MORE money they make. Depopulation reduces income!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what exactly did New Scientist say? True, ATS has tons of paranoiac baggage, but if you've been following this story (and done your research), you'd see that some things just don't make sense. (viewed from a logical perspective, of course)

Why then, would WHO change the very definition of a pandemic before declaring one earlier this year? Why the sudden NATIONAL EMERGENCY that few people even heard about? (even my sister, who WORKS in govt. didn't hear about it til i told her) Why the overreaction to something that is less deadly than the average influenza strain?

I'm very curious as to what explanation you come up with, other than
"oh, you're all crazy"

Just because you read some magazine with the word "scientist" in the title, doesn't magically make you the most logical person around. Especially if that's really your only claim to it.

Either give us an article with valid information on why the previous is happening, or don't even bother, because your "logic train" is nothing more than opinion until then. (And likely to be ignored, along with the paranoids!)

I think it's rather odd that she mentions several times....very specifically the dates April 17, 2009 until Sept 15, 2009.

April 17, 2009 was Passover.

Sept 15, 2009 was just a couple of days before the Day of Atonement.

(From year to year the atonement services conclude with a saying translated as "may you be reconciled until the day of atonement".)

I think there is some significance in the dates she mentioned, as she repeated them several times and because they do fall at "Holy Days".

The reason for her mentioning exact dates is really inconsequential in her conversation. That is why I think there is more to be aware of in this disclosure.


I am curious as to whether Illuminati recognize any Talmudic Holy days in their ceremonies?

since i normally not post anything here and just read i have to reply here to a post i'm sorry for that i cant open a thread and i think u should know this.

i just found this on the web while i was bored and surfing around.

The contract that the French Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot sealed with pharmaceutical companies to supply the "swine flu" jab was made public last week following a freedom of information request - but with key figures blanked out by tipp ex on the grounds of the need to safeguard the commercial and industrial secrets of Novartis, Baxter, GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi.

link

in the comments there is someone reffering to leaked goverment contracts

www.lepoint2.com...

i'm not sure this is real becouse my french is terible.

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Here Here! America is still our country! Although you wouldnt know it by all the disempowering posts about conspiracies and world takeovers.

If vaccines become mandatory they cannot vaccinate a meaningful, unified resistance. More people are learning that medical emergencies can take away nearly all civil liberties. The more people that know that the closer we come to an open resistance.

Until then sites like these must catalyze our group power, not deflate it by spreading ideas about global secret societies and reinforcing the false idea that we're powerless against the government. This is the underground resistance and it gets more respectability every day (and every disaster). Until then, find the others.

Originally posted by Finalized
Seems to me that this Baxter tainted vaccine was suppose to KICK OFF the pandemic and their plans got thwarted.

Instead of changing the plan, they changed the rule book and definition of pandemic so they could keep the plan in place, thus the disconnect and confusion around what is actually going on.... my $0.02.

I agree. It seems like the tests run in the Czech Republic that confirmed the contamination of the vaccine really threw a wrench in their spokes. If they had a plan it seems like their forging ahead regardless. If the tests weren't done to determine contamination then all these national emergencies and WHO threat levels would have a foundation in reality, meaning we might actually have a pandemic. But we don't so the behavior of the WHO and US govt is very suspicious.

Well I think after waking up a bit from that video, the school in our area is still open simply cause the kids really aren't sick, that this really isn't as bad as it it blown out to be. Naturally I would watch how things play out, but I am not thinking the issue will become out of control unless it is created as such. Also the schools in our part of the state are not having a record closing or even closing at all. SO on that note unless someone drops a virus bomb on our area, It is not a big deal.

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Agree with you there, go and watch some morgellons clips on you tube.
There are quite few researchers that think morgellons could be a result of the genes of insects and planets mixed with our cattle which we ofcourse digest, so it doesnt sound good one bit

I think Morgellons is a nanotech problem this was reported today (looks like it has already been deleted though)

PARIS (AFP) - Scientists reported Thursday that nano-particles used in medical applications can indirectly damage DNA inside cells by transmitting signals through a protective barrier of human tissue.
The stunning discovery adds to a growing body of research highlighting proven and potential health hazards from the rapidly expanding universe of engineered objects measured in billionths of a metre.
Nano-scale products already widely in use range from cosmetics to household cleaning products to sporting goods.
But the new findings, reported in the British journal Nature Nanotechnology, could also point to new ways in which nano-therapies might zero in on disease-causing tumours, the researchers said.
They could even shed light on how poorly understood pathogens penetrate into human organs.
In laboratory experiments, scientists led by Charles Case of Southmead Hospital in Bristol, Britain, grew a multi-layer "barrier" of human cells to mimic specialised protective tissues found in the body.
One such barrier, for example, separates blood from the brain.
Underneath this layer three-to-four cells thick, they placed human fibroblast cells, which play a key role in the formation of connective and scar tissue.
And on top they put nano-scale particles of cobalt-chromium, an alloy that has long been used in the making of hip- and knee-replacement joints, and more recently in drug-delivery mechanisms used inside arteries.
Earlier studies had shown that direct exposure to large quantities of the alloy could severely damage DNA is some cells, and the researchers wanted to find out how well the lab-grown barrier would protect the fibroblast cells below.
"We never imagined that it wouldn't," Case told journalists by phone.
"But to our great surprise, not only did we see damage on the other side of the barrier, we saw as much damage as if we had not had a barrier at all," he said.
At first, the researchers speculated that the tiny particles -- barely 30 billionth of a meter in diameter -- had slipped through microscopic cracks in the cellular blockade.
But there was no sign of the alloy on the other side, and when the experiment was repeated with far larger particles, the result was essentially the same.
"We could only conclude that the DNA damage occurred after indirect exposure depending on a process of signalling between cells rather than the passage of metal through the barrier," said Gevdeep Bhabra, a surgeon at Southmead and a co-author of the study.
For Jim Thomson of the Canada-based technology watchdog ETC Group, the findings "expand significantly the hurdles that any theoretical nano-safety assessment would need to clear."
His views were echoed by the researchers themselves and experts not involved in the study.
"What it tells me is that the precaution with which some scientists and regulators say we should proceed is the right way to go," said Vyvyan Howard, a pathologist at the University of Ulster who founded the Journal of Nanotoxicology

Found the link

health.yahoo.com...