Asda till snub help for heros

reply to post by Laurauk


If that be so then perhaps Asda should stop sticking it's nose in and supporting help for heroes.

I just sent them an email:

"Dear sir / Madam

Regarding:

www.thesun.co.uk...

I have a genuine concern regarding the individual politics of your check out operators. For example if i were to wear a wristband backing injured troops in the war in Afghanistan and Iraq (supported by Walmart), would i too be refused service by the operator and manager of the store?

Would i be judged on my religion or my politics?

I am having serious reservations about stepping foot inside another Asda store considering these 'invisible' policies. As if your draconian 'look 25' policies aren't enough, we now have to be judged on our political leanings aswell as our physical appearance.

Since when did our local stores become a political hotbed for discussion on the war? on what basis can you defend the actions of the till operator and the manager?

I always assumed the till operator was there to push buttons on the till and scan products and NOT to discuss the pro's and cons of the war on terror, the activities of the military and place judgement on the political leanings of consumers.

Many thanks for your time.

L"

Theres some conserns in this thread about the sun newspaper. cause its mostly a tabloid. I assure you that, that is what happened. The story from first published in our local newspaper. and since the sun sponser help for heros. they picked up on it.

It seems that everyone is basing their take on the information in the article, why are you taking all claims as real and ignoring this one?

An Asda spokeswoman said they were "shocked" by the claims but had found no evidence that the incident happened in their store. Read more: www.thesun.co.uk...

reply to post by Kram09


That is up to the company, weither it decides to support injured or the bereaved families of the UK Armed forces. The employee is employed to do a job, he or she is not employed to airing his political or religious believes into where he works.

I would understand the point if the individual female in question, was going around ASDA shouting at the top of her voice about the wrist band. The fct that she did not, show how stupid this employee is, and if ASDA did support his decision, they might see some of thier customers going elsewhere to do thier shopping.

Originally posted by chillpill
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

You speak about this prejudice like I should be ashamed of it.

I am definitely not. It's taken a lot of my own liberalism for me to reach the point where I now feel I have made some completely naive, ideological mistakes.

Prejudice is also assuming that the miscreant is Muslim, and letting that assumption become your argument. I read the article...no mention of religion that I could see.

He should have been sacked.

I have to deal with people who's viewpoint I disagree with on a daily basis, it does not mean that I refuse their business or to provide the service for which I'm contracted.

You cannot discriminate on who you serve based upon your own personal views. If he cannot handle the fact that he may have to serve people of differing opinion then he shouldn't be employed.

Furthermore, help for heroes is a fantastic charity that does a lot of good work for families of those servicemen/women who have died or for servicemen/women with life changing injuries and disabilities.

The Army does not choose it's war, it fights it. The politicians are the ones to blame for the debacle in Afghanistan and Iraq, not the soldiers.

reply to post by StevenDye

He has every right to tell her he does not agree that 'she supports the war',

No he certainly does not !
He has every right to have an opinion or belief about anything he chooses but that does not give him the right to ram it on someone else without being asked his opinion.

If this guy really did as what her wrist band was all about quite innocently, then if he disagreed he should have kept his mouth shut and packed her bloody bag instead of finding excuses to make banal conversation so as not to pack the bag.


There's always 2 sides to every story, I cannot imagine why the customer would go out of her way to draw attention to her wristband unless she believed the Asda dude was a muslim.

If this was the case then clearly the woman is trying to stir up trouble, seeing how she contacted the Sun to have a whinge (and earn a couple of quid?) I would imagine she is a Sun reader which would speak volumes.

Whatever the truth behind this I guarantee it is a device to stir up racial issues, there is something deeply smelly about this story and coming from the Sun (adult Beano) I would expect the smell to start there.

It would not surprise me in the least if this sort of incident starts to occur in other public places, provocative questions about the till girls berka for example.

Whatever happens the supermarkets need to act now and put in place programs to educate their staff from other people and other people from the staff.

Xnas is coming and the supermarkets will be the usual nightmare of stressed out people about to kill each other for a place in the queue.
This I believe carries a real possibility of festering racial tension exploding,.

I for one will be avoiding the supermarkets particularity Asda during the busy daytime this Xmas.

reply to post by 0010110011101

The Army does not choose it's war, it fights it. The politicians are the ones to blame for the debacle in Afghanistan and Iraq, not the soldiers.

And we the people allow our complacency to let the politicians do what the hell they like.

(nothing personal against you dude, just venting)

reply to post by moocowman


I couldnt agree more, complacency is rife.

The problem is that if people dont vote, they lose the right to complain. The turn out at the last general election was just over 60%. That is 60% of registered voters not the population!

Originally posted by 0010110011101
reply to post by moocowman

 

I couldnt agree more, complacency is rife.

The problem is that if people dont vote, they lose the right to complain. The turn out at the last general election was just over 60%. That is 60% of registered voters not the population!

Hm, and we'd probably find it is a big chunk of the 40% that stir up crap like in Asda after they complacently allowed 2 million migrants to take their jobs and social housing.

There has to be at least one Asda employee following this thread ? Any chance of emailing Asda to join the thread ?

Or is it too late are all Asda employees completely hardwired to the wallmart in Stepford ?

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by chillpill
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

Prejudice is also assuming that the miscreant is Muslim, and letting that assumption become your argument. I read the article...no mention of religion that I could see.

The dude is Asian that's good enough for any Sun reader my friend, if the story had run in the Star he would probably have been wearing a thong and will be signing autograph at Stringfellows on Thursday afternoon.

The children of Sun readers aspire to be on the Jerry Springer show failing the XFactor, and there is at least one white van per 10 head of population.

Tell you what really cheeses me off about stories like this.

Its the fact that people always seem to not read the article.

An Asda spokeswoman said they were "shocked" by the claims but had found no evidence that the incident happened in their store.

Now, all the indignation, racial baiting and "patriotism" on display in this thread is for what? Speculatory purposes?

You know, I went into Tesco today and someone refused to serve me because I wasn't green.

Last week I was refused service in a McDonalds because I presented a free McDonalds Burger voucher.

Previously I have been removed from Marks and Spencers for carrying a BHS bag in the store.

And I can prove all three of those about as well as the Sun can prove this.

Anyone can make a claim. Anyone. Wheres the proof? There is none.

If this was a UFO case with one witness and no trace evidence chances are that the person making the claim would be labelled a nutter.

Think about it.

reply to post by neformore


Yeah you got a very good point there... i stand humbled, and i'm now shocked at myself because i am one of the first to preach about not believing all that the tabloids print!

Dam... you got me

Star for you sir... for bringing it all back down to earth.

reply to post by neformore


If I was ASDA, I would be denying it too....

I feel that this could have happened, I worked in asda many years ago when at college and the place is run by absolute morons. If someone at the checkout was to give that lip to me I would not waste my time speaking to his supervisor, I would ask him outside and deal with it in the car park. If I was in another mood I would remind him that he is paid £4.00 per hour to scan my items not to give his view on my life choices.
Regardless of what his religion is he should have kept his mouth shut, and as for the part about Asda is shocked, they are probably saying that to cover this up, that is what they are good at . I had plenty of views about the shoppers but I never aired them, probably because in Glasgow you would not have got away with it.

This is riduculous, and anyone who has said good on him is pathetic.I am sincerly ashamed to be in the same country as you.

There seems to be this trend amoungst many young muslims. that all uk soldiers are bad people who invaded their home country.(a place wich most would never visit/have been in their entire life. nor live the same lifestyle)

when in fact it has nothing to do with the soldiers. they are there because they have to be. and they will go on to anyother counrty that they are ordered to., it is simply their job, it is much more diffucult than you could ever imagine.

If you dont l ike the war blame George bush, blame tony balir, blame mi5 and the falsified evidence that led to us getting involved in this shambles. DO NOT Blame the soldiers.

reply to post by moocowman


For once you make a valid point

reply to post by MR BOB


I worked with the military for the last 2 years and when I saw the muslims protesting the dead returning from Afghanistan I nearly lost it. I make no bones about it I despise the young militant muslims in this country to the point that if TSHTF I would arm up and hunt them, their attitudes and demands upon this culture are unbelievable and the fact our politicians have allowed us as a country to be so cowed into being fearful of speaking out has lead to the rise of the BNP. That is why I added that I more than believe this has happened and ASDA has tried to cover it up. Where will this attitude leave us, I believe to civil war and who has the guns my muslim friends, the very people you protest against.

Originally posted by On the level
reply to post by moocowman

 

For once you make a valid point

Christ ! I must be heading in the right direction
Think I'll pop into Asda and give them a few tips on dealing with this sort of thing

Here's something to break the ice -