'V' aims at Obamamania

This is really FUNNY. The NY Times just did a review of the first episode, and here is a snippet of it:

A crowd gathers to gawk at a huge spaceship that has appeared in the sky over Manhattan. The bottom of the ship turns into a screen (à la “Blade Runner”) showing the leader of the alien visitors. She announces that they mean us no harm, that they just need some water and a mineral “common and abundant on Earth” before they shove off.
The assembled New Yorkers digest this, look at one another — and start to applaud. That’s an early scene in “V,” the new science-fiction series beginning on Tuesday on ABC, and the only logical reaction to it is: on what planet does that happen? Certainly not ours, where a more natural reaction would be “Who does she think she’s kidding?” or words to that effect.

Get that last sentence. "Who does she think she's kidding?"
Oh, I get it. Nobody should believe someone that says they're going to make things much better, help everyone, etc. etc.?
YOU MEAN like YOU, The NY Times, who accepted Obama's promises without asking ANY questions?
Then they go on and actually admit to what happened in the 2008 election:

It’s a small point, but it’s indicative of a larger problem. The ideas in “V,” about alien encounters and mass delusion and media manipulation, are enticing.

Mass Delusion? Media Manipulation?
Really?
Sound Familiar people?
Amazing- but what the heck, it is only the NY Times- the paper no one reads anymore anyway.

It was entertaining and the Anna chick is kind of hot, in a reptillian dressed in human skin kind of way.

I will see this as entertainment so that I can enjoy the show. Have fun over thinking it.

reply to post by Bored To Tears


A Nazi reptile chick has good appeal to mind constrictors.
The Reptile promotion seemed to have ebbed but anything tried
and true is welcome for a comeback.

.. promoted through the S.S. and the Thule Society. This new Nazi religion used ancient religious mythology as its basis, falsely depicting the ‘gods’ as “aliens”. For example, the Egyptian God of Darkness, Apepi (Apophis), a serpent, was claimed to be a “reptilian alien god” which lived under the Great Pyramid at Giza.

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Or see much of context in my profile top message at this time.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


I don't know about all of that.

I just think she's kind of hot. No need to over psycho analyze it.

I just finished watching it and thought it was pretty neat. I was too young to have known about the original but knowing about the original now, I'll have to watch that as well.

The series reminds me of David Icke thus far.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by disfugured]

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


And how many of those claims were correct, or even remotely intelligent?

I'm no fan of George Boy. In fact i think he's the third-worst president this nation has endured (Andrew Jackson is #1, Ronald Reagan is #2) but all that space alien, ultra-conspiracy crap? Never bought it. He's a greedy twit who rode into office on the flaws of the previous administration and then got a second term because of the American public's innate fear of changing administrations during a war.

Him being a neocon dimwit was more than enough, I didn't need the ludicrous crap easily found everywhere about the guy. And coming back and doing the same thing with Obama doesn't really make you look any smarter - I severely doubt any of the people painging George Boy as a reptiloid Nazi fro mthe Inner earth are singing a different tune about Obama.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Amazing- but what the heck, it is only the NY Times- the paper no one reads anymore anyway.

Erm...apparently they do...

I'm an 80s baby so I vaguely remember V

I just remember the reptilians on there scaring the crap out of me.

I'm sure a David Icke follower would say that "they" are trying to tell us something through the airing of this show.

Originally posted by Bored To Tears
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

I don't know about all of that.

I just think she's kind of hot. No need to over psycho analyze it.

You have not been over David Icke'd or seen the Reptile sections
of the net or ATS then.
Your are clean.
All those reptilian topics sort of taken out all the wonder with all their
froward text troopers spreading the Reptile saga.

And I under stand your position.
Why get deep.


[edit on 11/4/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


You take me for an ATS newbie, please don't let the sign up date fool you.

I know all about David Ickre and the reptillian theory. I just find it laughable.

I'm like millions of other people and just enjoy a nice fiction story.

Well, with all due respect. Considering "V' is a remake of a a series from 1983, and Way back in 83' Obama was not even a senator until just a few years ago... I would say that it is more of a coincidence.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


From the OP:

So, does that sound like anyone you know? Oh, wait -- did I mention the leader is secretly a totalitarian space lizard who's come here to eat us? Welcome to ABC's "V," the most fascinating and bound to be the most controversial new show of the fall television season. Nominally a rousing sci-fi space opera about alien invaders bent on the conquest (and digestion) of all humanity, it's also a barbed commentary on Obamamania that will infuriate the president's supporters and delight his detractors.

Not with the connection here.
Can we clue people in a bit more.

Why would this not disgust people unrelated to Obama anything.

ED: And the David Ickre theories just fascinated me when it hit
the web. An new wrinkle on and old lie but now the rulers are
lizards. No more lizard gods. So the rulers think of themselves
as gods now or they always knew it. Ickre is some character.
[edit on 11/4/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 11/4/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by MemoryShock

Erm...apparently they do.

Not many. In fact, the publisher of the NY Times says that they will probably shut down their newspaper within the next three years.
In fact, the OP came from the internet.
By the way, several members seem to be addressing some of the OP comments to me, as if I wrote it. The OP is nothing more than a quote from the article, without comment. The only serious comment I made was on page 2 of this thread.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


Well... really? What did you expect? You apparently thought this goofy article was intelligent and relevant enough to start a thread with. You seem to identify with its premise, as well. In other words, you're endorsing what the OP article is saying. Since people can't talk to the article, they're going to address their points to you, since you've volunteered yourself to be the spokesman for the article.

You're just going to have to deal with the consequences of your own postings

reply to post by TheWalkingFox

Well... really? What did you expect? You apparently thought this goofy article was intelligent and relevant enough to start a thread with. You seem to identify with its premise, as well. In other words, you're endorsing what the OP article is saying. Since people can't talk to the article, they're going to address their points to you, since you've volunteered yourself to be the spokesman for the article.

It's good to know we have an expert mind reader here at ATS to go to, when we want to know what someone thinks. Actually, if you read my post below the OP, you would see that I was looking for a food fight.

For those that are not old enough, let me tell you a little story about a made for TV movie that was a blockbuster, and was subsequently blackballed, with virtually all copies destroyed, because it was a thinly veiled revelation of an alleged plan by the Nixon administration to cancel the Presidential Election. I saw the movie, as did a huge audience.
The movie was "Shadow on the Land".

www.imdb.com...
Here is a summary of the movie from one of the reviews. IMDB did not publish a full plot synopsis, so I chose this review which faithfully reveals the details of the plot, along with the person's views. I suggest you look at all of the reviews, and the cast, which is a blockbuster cast.

This is a movie that needs to be seen by everyone now. A fascist dictatorship takes over the country in an "election" when everyone is scared by events. No longer called the president, he is now "The Leader" (which is what Der Fuhrer means) and has taken emergency powers voted in by a panicked Congress (a la' The PATRIOT ACT) and has created a Gestapo called the Internal Security Force (Homeland Security). People can't pass from one part of the country to another without an internal passport, a la' the old Soviet Union (and the proposed national ID cards now). A small resistance called the Society of Man learns from a patriotic Air Force colonel that the INF is going to launch terrorist attacks to blame on the resistance to take even more control and erode public support for the Society of Man. No wander this movie is never shown on tv and isn't available on VHS or DVD. People would recognize the parallels to todays situation.

The movie had everything people talk about today, but were non-subjects back then, including a series of false flag operations.
For those who think that movies aren't made for political points, all I can say is "I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn".
Furthermore, for those who think that a movie series that was made 20 years ago, couldn't be trying to make a point about an administration now, you are on the wrong Forum.
There are quite a few members on ATS who believe that nothing happens by accident when it comes to American Presidential Elections. In addition, many believe that the actual players-namely the "elected" Presidents, are nothing more than stand-ins for those who have been planning the administrations for decades, if not longer.

I'd give the premier a solid B+. Politics aside, it was visually stimulating and shows some good hope of decent character development. I am not positive of how this show could be a long-run gainer, but it will certainly have a terrific November run (4 episodes now, the rest in 2010).

For those of you on the fence, give it a watch. It might be like getting into LOST before the bandwagon. Or it may go the way of NBC's Kings. Anyhow, quite an impressive premiere.

reply to post by Iago18


Its funny that you mention lost because the actress that played Juliette is the female lead on V.

Personally I think the whole Obama/V controversy is nothing more than people putting their own subjective take on it.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by antithesis.]

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


Star and flag to the OP... Everyone should watch this miniseries, but only after reading the article in the OP.

I find it humorous, in an ironic sense, that people still buy the propaganda put out by the state controlled media, and the trash put out by the the enertainment industry, as if it is merely for your entertainment. LIke FDR said, "nothing in politics happens by accident." And by the same token, nothing in the MSM does either. Do you really think that multi million dollar media corps don't have an agenda to push? Keep this in mind: it wasn't the Nazis or the Soviets that invented propaganda, but the British secret service, and its ancilaries in America. Hell, the Soviets were jealous of how efficient the American propaganda machine is. Most of those in Soviet captivity knew it was crap, while the American public bought the big lie that they were free, etc., hook, line, and sinker. You see only what they want you to see, and you know only what they want you to know. For example, look at the bogus hysteria drummed up over the common cold (swine flu). They did it back in 1976, and now they're doing it again, yet idiots keep falling for it.

There are probably a thousand examples of the brainwashing and propaganda that goes on in our media outlets... This one shows you that it has been going on for a very long time: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Have we forgotten about Obamamania already? He even had to give a speech where he had to openly declare that he wasn't Moses. I mean, I've followed politics for most of my life, and I've never seen a spectacle put on like the onset of the Obama administration. Now they're calling him the fourth Kennedy brother... I mean, falling short of crapping thunder and being part of the Holy Trinity, I thought that the MSM was going to stage a giant Obama orgy so they could all have sex with the guy. Even the Republicans were bashing Rush limbaugh, while fawning all over Obama. It was so bad that a year before the election I was telling my friends that Obama was going to be our next President, because clearly the news media had recieved their marching orders from on high to back the guy no matter what.

For those of you that can't get past the Helegelian Diialectic of Republican vs. Democrat, and are irked because someone insulted your precious savior (Obama), I say this: WAKE UP! Hell, I voted for Bush in 2004, back when I was a card carrying Republican. It wasn't long after that that I finally woke up and realized that I was being duped by a phoney process. I suggest that you read this: www.abovetopsecret.com...

As for this mini series being a remake of an older 80's series, therefore it couldn't be about Obama blah, these people repeat themselves, and they dessiminate their agenda to every new generation. How much original content do you actually find on our televisions or in the movies? Most of it are remakes, told to a new generation and with a modern touch. Orwell's 1984 blue print has been used in a thousand movies and tv shows.

As for David Icke, there is a lot of truth to his work. I don't know if lizard people run the world, but when you look at how stupid and crazy things are, hell I'd take lizard people over Obama is Jesus incarnate, and the Dems and Reps really do care about you, and are trying to change things.. Hell, I'd believe in Santa Clause before I believe that crap.

I know this much... Our history books are full of crap, the MSM is not telling us the truth, and that there are some very evil personages, contolling things at the top that believe they are my Gods, and are trying to pull my strings. Whether or not they are lizard people? Well, we'll call it dramatic license for propagandists. Even they are entitled to that.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by HothSnake]

Originally posted by HothSnake
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

 

Star and flag to the OP... Everyone should watch this miniseries, but only after reading the article in the OP.

I will not watch it.

Original V, and taken are the best alien series.

Today series and movies are just crappy graphics, with rubbish acting.

I have never watched lost, and i do not intend to watch this version of V.

reply to post by HothSnake

I find it humorous, in an ironic sense, that people still buy the propaganda put out by the state controlled media, and the trash put out by the the enertainment industry, as if it is merely for your entertainment. LIke FDR said, "nothing in politics happens by accident."

Star for your post. At least some people understand that the "Entertainment" industry has become nothing more than the propaganda arm of special interests. You have hit the nail on the head. Your post brings out the truth, better than I could have hoped to do.
Thank you for your wise words.