I was abducted by alien when i was young

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
That's the thing though....the evidence for this is pretty much non-existent. The stories are pretty much all they have...and that is not good enough.

Absolutely, but the argument that there are no extraterrestrial visitors hangs on the premise that if you cannot see them, cannot prove that they are here then they do not exist and all the accounts worldwide from many diverse cultures, explained within these diverse cultures frame of reference must be the delusions of the mentally ill or the chemically addicted.

Even highly classified governmental documents of the past that become eligible for public consumption are so heavily censored that there is surely something to this proliferation of secrecy itself that needs further investigation but this does not happen because there seems instead to be an active campaign of distraction, ridicule and disinformation that pervades all sectors of the UFO and abduction phenomenon.

You prove a point that just as the believer asks to be taken seriously and their story believed the dedicated sceptic requires the same thing. Unfortunately and generally we will always be bitterly divided on the subject because until it is proved positive then we are on the fringe, laughed at and ridiculed and sometimes persecuted.

I am not faulting your logic because I know it is sound because if you have not experienced this phenomenon firsthand then of course logic will dictate that it is too “nutty” to be true. I cannot say hand on heart that the things I experienced as a child from recurring visitations by beings that defied the laws of physics to the sleep paralysis in teenage years was not some sort of chemical imbalance. My memories on the events are vague, hazy and disjointed. Many years later I was told by a German doctor in Iserlohn that an MRI scan had picked up an anomaly (her terminology) deep within my brain. I never asked for details (fool me) and she never volunteered any more information because the detail was not part of the reason for the MRI.

I was passed fully fit to “soldier on” and that was all I needed to know at the time.

I would be lying to you and myself if I did not go through periods of self doubt even now and posts such as the ones you posted prior do give me repeated food for thought. However there is a converse dilemma in that I cannot dispute the evidence of my own eyes and the fact that my last UFO sighting was witnessed by others who were with me and strangers who were in the area at the time (ambulance crew).

Those who suffer these things have nothing to gain by telling their story and in fact they actually have much to lose, yet the accounts keep coming in thick and fast. With so much to lose from career prospects to family and friendship ties that in itself is a phenomenon in itself would you not agree?

To risk throwing away your future on a tall story is simply an absurd thing to do yet it happens all the time.

i just dont see how anyone can come into a discussion without any real knowledge of a subject, and continue to try and discredit them.

some people should save their breathe (or time typing) and just stay out of it.

especially if all they can do is quote others.

Originally posted by mahtoosacks
i just dont see how anyone can come into a discussion without any real knowledge of a subject, and continue to try and discredit them.

some people should save their breathe (or time typing) and just stay out of it.

especially if all they can do is quote others.

Well just to let you know...I once believed this stuff. I did read anything I could get my hands on about this, but then I began to see holes in the stories. These things could not be explained away by saying because they are aliens and such. After about maybe 6-8yrs of being a believer, I had no choice but to accept the fact that there is a possibility that these things do not exist.

It went from a possibilty to fact for me in a year, once I began to read the other side of this...ie the skeptical side. At first I was also mocking the skeptics, saying they have no idea what they are talking about...because I was against anyone who mocked my beliefs. The more I read, though, the more everything they said made a hell of a lot more sense than the believers side. I guess you can say I turned to the dark side ( the logical side) basically I grew out of it. I am 26 now and have been a skeptic for more than 7 years now, also I realized that the believers side had kind of a cult mentallity on me. It was hard to believe that all my beliefs could be false and was hard to accept at first. Now instead of blindly believing in anything, I question.

People call the skeptics and other people..sheeple..but in fact, it is the believers side I see as sheeple. I see you people watching obviously fake videos, looking at fake pics, looking at pics of the moon or mars and seeing structures that aren't and reading other peoples accounts and blindly believing everything you read /see because another believer posted them. I have opened my mind because it was closed, and now see that there is no evidence for aliens. It is only theory.


mahtoosacks, you sound angry. I have met a few so called abductees and have travelled worldwide to so called UFO hotspots ( because I have the money to) and interviewed people and have come to the this conclusion by doing my research. Tell me ...what have you done besides read others accounts and then go online telling people they have no idea what they are talking about..because you have read stories and are now an expert in the field. So what have you done?

reply to post by kerazeesicko


im not angry, but it does make me wonder why someone would hijack someones thread to call them crazy, and that you dont believe them.

thats great that you have done some interviews of people, but by just jumping into a thread a saying that you know everything isnt really productive.

cheers for having money i guess...

but instead of just blindly attacking skeptics, you just did a reversal and are now blindly attacking those who might have gone through something.

as far as i can tell, you havent gone through this, so its not really up to you to make the final word.

i know you will come back and say you didnt attack and didnt call him crazy, but i like to sum things up in a nutshell when i see it.

where all have you been to interview and how many people again? i havent had the chance to do that, but i'm also not claiming to know things like you are.

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
People call the skeptics and other people..sheeple..but in fact, it is the believers side I see as sheeple. I see you people watching obviously fake videos, looking at fake pics, looking at pics of the moon or mars and seeing structures that aren't and reading other peoples accounts and blindly believing everything you read /see because another believer posted them. I have opened my mind because it was closed, and now see that there is no evidence for aliens. It is only theory.

There are many who believe and they all belive for so many reasons that to just lump them all together and lable them as sheep does them, you and the whole search for the truth by all a great disservice in my humble opinion.

Let me clarify that statement.

At 21:00 (16/09/2009) I was out walking my dog with my wife when we saw something in the sky above our house at a height of about two thousand feet. When it left it left with a swift diminishing of light and then zipped off like something out of a movie. We were not imagining it and my wife and I were pretty excited though I have to admit I was all but jumping around and doing a jig.

From the stance you have taken in the things you have posted, we are either delusional, imagining this or are lying. I can say we saw what we saw but because we took no photographic evidence (we were rooted to the spot in amazement) we cannot prove it. However the problem is that because you have not seen these things you feel that you are qualified to call those who have seen these things liars or delusional idiots. You also exude a manner that could be assumed to be a position of smugness because you are so certain that these things are not happening (because you have not seen them) that anyone who says otherwise is to be derided as a fool?

Another example!

There was a sudden flash of intense white light off to the left of where I had been looking straight up. The flash of light was fast and lasted barely a second but was very bright and got my attention fast. From the flash there was suddenly a tiny but bright satellite and it was taking a path that would take it almost directly over my house.

At first I was thinking ‘cool a satellite’ but I was also perplexed about the intense white flash it had come from and the diffuse nature of it. Things took an even weirder turn as suddenly the satellite flashed a rich blue and VERY defined cone of light aimed toward the north. The light was intense and like nothing I had seen before. It was of such a highly defined intensity it was almost a solid triangle. The flash of blue triangular light lasted only split second but I was looking straight at it so there was no mistaking what I was seeing.

In response there was a second flash of intense white unidirectional light exactly the same as the one that had got my attention focused on the satellite. From this second light there was a second satellite closing in with the first one as it moved over my house. Their speed was similar and the distance between the two I cannot say but I have seen enough satellites to know they were at extreme altitude, well beyond the height of any aircraft. The distance from the two satellites would be blocked if I pointed my arm straight up and blocked them with four fingers.

The second satellite flashed a very intense red cone of triangular light at the first satellite as it closed the distance and the response was another flash of blue light aimed at the second satellite. This then responded with a second flash of red conical light and then they merged with a flash of white unidirectional light.

After the flash was gone there was just the first satellite moving now over my house and I had got to my feet by now without taking my eyes of the scene even once. I backed up as the satellite started to become obscured by my roof and about five seconds after the merger of the two the satellite started winking on and off a bright orange. I could go on and my story does go on for a while longer but I posted this just to give you an example that people are seeing these things and yet we are classed as idiots because dedicated sceptics have never seen anything like this.

I am not a gullible type of man and at one point during this sighting I mentally questioned if I was hallucinating for some reason and looked away briefly, swore a few choice words and then looked back at the sighting. The UFO was still there and its orange blinking was not a strobe, more a sporadic lighting, on and off at twice the speed a man blinks roughly but at points it sped up and then slowed and repeated.

I cannot prove I saw this and without proof I am condemned as a liar or deluded because the event is so fantastical that without proof and because you have never seen something like this then it cannot have happened?
You do not need money to see these things and the proof you seek will not be found on the internet because of the advances in CGI, it will be found when you open yourself up to the possibility that this stuff is really happening.

Originally posted by kerazeesickomahtoosacks, you sound angry . I have met a few so called abductees and have travelled worldwide to so called UFO hotspots ( because I have the money to) and interviewed people and have come to the this conclusion by doing my research. Tell me ...what have you done besides read others accounts and then go online telling people they have no idea what they are talking about..because you have read stories and are now an expert in the field. So what have you done?

You do not need to travel very far if you keep an open mind and actually do more than just travel with a mind that is seemingly closed to the possibility that this phenomenon is occurring. I am not saying that you have a closed mind but from the manner of your posts it would seem to me that you would rather assume believers are liars and deluded fools rather than take on board what they are saying and that what they are saying is coming from a stance of honesty.



[edit on 5-11-2009 by SmokeJaguar67]

Perhaps the people you are talking to in the manner you are talking to them are angry at the manner in which you are speaking to them. From the interviews you have made of “so called abductees,” (your words) you indicate from your manner that you have approached the subject with an attitude of disbelief in the first place.

In my own cases they happened within two hundred metres from my front door and I did not need to spend any money to find proof that there are some strange things in the skies.

I sincerely mean this as no insult to you but I am left with the impression that you have an ulterior motive for posting as the ridiculing and condescending sceptic because you jumped into this thread with steel capped boots and then trampled opposing opinion and accounts as if they were not deserving of being considered in any degree.

If I am wrong in that assumption I will have no problems with making a sincere apology but I tend to call it as I see it.

I think it would be incredibly naive and ignorant to think that there are no such things as extraterrestrials...i mean we have 60,000 'wanderers' actually here at this time living among us, helping us. why is it so hard to grasp the fact that there is other life forms out there? how can we point to so called scientific evidence for proof when everything is hidden and when some stuff does come out its made such a mockery of that your conditioned to look at it as a joke! all they have to do is make a film about it and the whole world is like 'oh ye saw that in a hollywood film did ya?!' if anyone steps out of the sheep pen and wont conform to zombified society then they are ridiculed thats why its so hard to talk about this stuff cus people are so narrow minded and ignorant-people open up ur brains...let some light in...stop being sheeple!! i mean we have chinese...they look different...coloured...also different...we all look didfferent due to our race its just the same as them but from different planets...so what?! dont get sucked in by the fear just love to learn and be ready to embrace our extended family-its guna be awsome!!

reply to post by kerazeesicko


I trust University research on these types of things just about as much as I trust the government, which is 0.

I am not saying all abductions are real and yes I do feel some might be imagination but to say that ALL of them are due to some other reason and that abductions never happen is just plain ignorant. Do you believe in other life on other planets or in other galaxies??

How would you feel if this happened to you and yet you KNOW its true and yet people are telling you that you are nuts or making it up or its your temporal lobe going nutzo on you. You cant leave out the idea that these are real abductions, what does someone have to really gain from these claims? Seems to me they are trying to understand what happened to them and they sure as hell dont need to be ridiculed by their peers.

Sorry but the govts of the world have been doing a good job of hiding anything having to do with aliens for a very long time. So any research funded by them to prove it wrong just doesnt sit well with me and it doesnt seem like its done to benefit anyone but themselves.

As for the aliens, IDK I have never been abducted that i know of. I do feel they are more advanced than us and this could explain why they are never seen by anyone else. You hear of people who see ghosts and demons yet nobody else sees them so why is it hard to believe that the same thing is possible for those who see aliens? How do you explain the marks on people who claim abduction? Did these shapes just appear out of nowhere in their sleep? I think there is more to it and I truly feel the govts of the world know about it but of course they will never let us in on it.

I have to go to work but I will give you some links to look at when I get home.

Im up for believing what the OP says is real.....I never used to believe in aliens and UFO's until a few years back I started waking up at 3:33....its a long story and being the skeptic that I was I went down all avenues looking for an answer....I hit brick wallls everytime and still have no solid answer as to why this used to happen....strangely, the new film about abductions "The Fourth kind" the abductions take place at 3:33... Id like to hear your take on this and what time you think these abductions may have taken place....

i seriously doubt that guy will be back to try and disrupt the thread again.

can hadyn please continue what he was saying as we are now on track and have a few followers who want to hear more if there is more?

The only thing I really want to say is the alien ships are the real deal and so are there occupants. If and when it comes time for each to know then they will know.

I also love it when men and women with capital letters behind there name make a fortune just by doing research and writing about it like they are an authority on this when they themselves never had any type of experience .............

BUT

When an experiencer/abductee talks about their experiences they are usually insulted or accused of being mental or out right accused of falsehoods just to make money........go figure.

As with everything it will take that right moment in history but even with that said there will always be those that will still deny.

I don't know how others that have been through this feel but right now I would be like a 61 year old child and when the time comes for the truth I will be doing this

Our day is coming no doubt about that!

reply to post by booda


You have to be kidding me right? I have woken up everynight for the last 6 years at 3.30, and sometimes 6.30, i just put it down to my strange body clock, but maybe something more ominous is at work, although i havnt seen or felt anything since i was younger.

And sorry everyone about not posting on here for a long time its just i have been occupied.

reply to post by Haydn_17


fascinating and scary. do you notice any similiarities www.abovetopsecret.com...

i never considered the possibility that the beings could hover or float. i always assumed what ever i've seen is being held up form above. is there any other instances you remember of forcable removal?

reply to post by snusfanatic


I was forced when i moved house, they got violent, and forcfully pulled me out of my bed..

Thats the last time i remeber, i never saw legs, only the shoulders and head.

Hey! thank you for your post, I like to hear from others who have weird memories like this as a child. I always thought I was crazy, but maybe you can help?

Like you, I always felt like I was watched from a very young age, being in the dark petrified me, I was always a very sick child, every year I would get at least 4 major colds and the flu every year. I would go to sleep and wake up VERY late in the night usually 12:30-2:30ish AM I would wake up feeling numb, very sweaty, cold, and extremely scared. I felt like there were people watching me, I couldnt move I did all I could to grab my blanket and cover myself up and hide It was sort of a feeling like "I just dont want to be seen anymore" I felt very vulnerable. This would happen often, So I started sleeping with all my lights on or at least enough light to illuminate the entire room. When I got older, age 11-16 I would wake up in strange places in my room like on the floor or in the closet. I only remember one occasion when I had a dream that I was sleeping on the floor and then I looked up and saw my door open and an Alien about 4 feet tall was standing there. He was pale grey skin, and was wearing a silver like body suit thing.. I just remember screaming and he made this loud noise and turned around and left... but the scary part was... I woke up on the floor.. with the door open. I've always been afraid of needles... and I would probably have a panic attack if I was in the middle of a field at night... and I dont know why, as I have a sort of high pain tolerance.. and I used to live near a field when I was 10-15. Now I am 19.... I still once in a while wake up in a cold sweat... but I sleep with my boyfriend... and refuse to sleep on the outside of the bed.. Also as for any weird scars or bruises... I had always been clumsy and still am, sometimes I wake up with HUGE bruises on my legs but never any scars.. I am trying to reach a point in my life where I can lucid dream and ask myself things and find repressed memories.. but Its almost like my body wont let me remember something.


Also random bit of info, my father when he was younger said he spotted a UFO on a backroad once walking home really late. He said it was three lights really close together one silver-like, one yellow, and one red. He drew me a picture a long time ago. He said that he had been so curious about it he went to school to be an air-traffic controler, and graduated from an aeronotics college. He still says he had never seen anything like it to this day. I'm not sure if its common, but he had found out one day by his doctor that he had two appendix?

---edited to add something sorry.

[edit on 16-11-2009 by WhereAreWe]

reply to post by WhereAreWe


you sound like my girlfriend.

she sleeps with the light on, and wont sleep on the edge of the bed. she gets the random bruises too (not from me btw)

she scared the crap out of me a few months back when she said she saw something about 4 feet tall and staring at her. when she tried to wake me up, it ran into the kitchen and kept watching her then disappeared.

little bastards know better than to mess with me

i keep trying to get her to open up more, but its hard for me to get her to talk, and when she wants to, its like she cant remember anything. its weird to say the least. i just hope i am helping her, or at least protecting.

not much you can do against something that appears while you sleep though.

reply to post by cindymars


Whether you believe the story or not, you have to take into account that there are numerous hotlines and treatment centers for rape victims. Alien abductees don't have these types of resources, so it would make sense that they would post something on the internet.

I tend to believe that this new movie that came out...

will/is going to discredit this abduction senerio, from all ppl.

I believe that if its real "I can't say its not" that the PTB will be using mass public awareness to make it out to be something rediculled by the masses.

I also think it will back fire on them, and end up being on TV much like the Ghost Hunters, and UFO Hunters shows, in the near future!

I have had a couple of experiences that I can't explain, and I think far more ppl than will ever admitt it, has too!

reply to post by Doc Holiday


What movie came out?

reply to post by mahtoosacks


Wow, thats pretty crazy. Pretty much the same situation... I think I know what your talking about when you say its almost like she forgets things... because If I try and think about it its like its hidden in fog in my head.. but then again... I'm sort of glad for that... I'm kind of afraid of what I would remember.