Rapping + McDonalds = TICKET

4 high school students drive up to a Mcdonald's window and start to rap their order. See story below from Fox News online.

AMERICAN FORK, Utah — A rap by four teenagers at a McDonald's has gotten them a bad rap in one Utah city.

The teens were cited by American Fork police earlier this week for disorderly conduct after they rapped their order at a McDonald's drive-through.

The teens said they were imitating a popular video on YouTube. They rapped their order, which begins with, "I need a double cheeseburger and hold the lettuce ..." once quickly before repeating it more slowly.

Spenser Dauwalder said employees at the restaurant told him and his friends they were holding up the line and needed to order or leave.

The 18-year-old said nobody was in line. He and his three 17-year-old friends left without buying anything.

American Fork Police Sgt. Gregg Ludlow says a manager wrote down the car's license plate number and called police. The teens were later cited by officers at a high school parking lot outside a volleyball match.

"We thought, you know, just teenagers out having fun," Dauwalder told KSL Newsradio. "We didn't think it would escalate to that."

Disorderly conduct citations are issued when someone does something to cause annoyance or alarm, Ludlow said. The citation is an infraction similar to a speeding ticket, Ludlow said.

"It was not just that they were rapping, they continued to hold things up," Ludlow said.

Ludlow said the teens were asked several times to speak plainly and that ultimately the manager came outside.

The owner-operator of the American Fork McDonald's said in a statement that the issue was about employees' safety.

"The employee in question felt that her safety was at risk as a result of the alleged actions of these individuals in the drive-thru, not as a result of them rapping their order," franchisee Conny Kramer said in the statement. "As such, she contacted the local authorities."

But Sharon Dauwalder, Spenser's mother, said they will fight it nonetheless.

"We have to," she told The Associated Press on Thursday. "The citation is there.""

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I think people are WAY TOOOOO uptight. They were just having a little fun. If I were taking the order I would have played around and rapped back. I mean, really, to ticket these kids is a little much in my eyes.

p.s. I search ATS to see if this has been posted and didn't see anything. If this has been posted already I am saying sorry in advance. Last time I did that I had one person being such a d%&k about it, so I wanted to make it clear.



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[edit on 30-10-2009 by Crakeur]

Any business has the right to refuse service to imbecile customers.

They were refused business and, according to what you posted, they left.

It should have stopped there. The ticket was unnecessary.

You may think "way too many people are uptight" but I think way too many people are raging idiots and spend their time making the rest of us miserable.

Not that I'd ever be in a McDonalds drive-through but I can't imagine if I were and sitting behind idiots mimicking some stupid internet video I'd be very pleased. Still, I wouldnt call for them to be ticketed. Punched in the face maybe but not ticketed.

If all disorderly conduct requires is for one to cause annoyance I can think of several million folks worthy of a charge.

You're right,ticketing them is dumb.
I would be annoyed if I were the employees as well tho.
To the teens,they thought they were being funny...to the employees it was stupid,immature and they have better things to do at work then deal with jokers wasting their time with immaturity.

The clerck should've answered with a haiku poem or something. That would've been appropriate response and not citing the with a ticket.
Disorderly conduct is one of those law enforcement excuses when a real crime hasn't been committed. Same goes for such things as intervening etc. They would have a legimate use but more than often they're used simply because it's possible.

I just saw this on the news and well if the manager asked them to order the right way more than one time they should have listened. I highly doubt they are completely innocent. Yes it's harmless to order your meal with a rap but if the manager or person at the window is unable to understand you should listen and order the right way. They were probably cursing like the management says, believe me teenagers at a drive through late at night arent exactly angels... this I know from experience. Getting a ticket IMO is stupid, I mean they annoyed the manager and that is it more than likely....Now if they were really loud and obnoxious and disturbed everyone then sure but I dont think that is what happened. These kids should have shut up and just ordered plain and simple IMO.

I totally agree with the everybody, lol! The kids wound up not even buying anything? So, they were trespassing too! If they were imitating a YouTube video, then they were probably video taping the act, and that violates some more laws, and even some Trademark violations if they got the Arches in the video, and then made it available on line!

It was probably a harmless prank, but if they were asked to leave and didn't, and if the manager was upset enough to write down the license and call the police, then they probably at least deserved the citations they got!

They could have rapped their order, and then drove through and made the purchase, and had no problems.

Even if videotaping I see no laws against that. Filming the MCD arches dont violate trademark either. I'm abit confused about what you mean.

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Utah: What happens when white people go "Hey, Afghanistan's got some good ideas!"

What a waste of salt that place is.

I didn't realize you could get a ticket, for annoying someone.

I'm gonna keep the local PD busy it seems, a lot of people annoy me.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Even if videotaping I see no laws against that. Filming the MCD arches dont violate trademark either. I'm abit confused about what you mean.

Just videotaping doesn't violate the trademark laws, but posting it to YouTube does! They have to give proper credit and compensation to McD for the use of their likeness in any broadcast. If the pages generated revenue, then McD gets a cut of that revenue! Since the jist of the event was that they were in a McD drivethrough, then McD will win an argument that their likeness and trademark images is what brought all the viewers, and thus all the revenue (face it, 4 amateurs rapping in their bedroom would not have gotten this attention), so pretty much ALL of the revenue would go to McD!!

wait...how does anyone in Utah know how to rap?

but seriously now...it is a bit excessive. but teaches those whippersnappers a lesson by god!

another example of law enforcement not just going; "hey kids, next time, just order right, these people didn't get the joke...and if you were being obscene or holding up the line I have every right to give you a ticket, but i'm not going to. Next time i will"

reminds me of the time i was driving home from a friends...lets just say not sober, and i was pulled over in my parking lot, the cop looked at me and went..."wow you shouldn't be driving, what are you doing out" I explained i was over at a friends watching the simpsons, he even joked around and asked if i got any family guy in there.

he ran my license and all, and since he pulled me over for a busted tail light, and i made it home safe (he said he followed me from about halfway down the road to where i was at and didn't swerve or anything) warned me against driving in that condition, to fix the light, and made sure me and my girlfriend got to the door ok.

if a jelly can do that for an impaired person, they could for some rapping rapscallions (see what i did there...weak i know)

oh well...good thing i don't plan on living in Utah.

Yea the ticket probably wasn't necessary, but I deal with similar morons a lot, I just kick them out on the spot. You don't want to reward this moronic behavior.

Ludicrous. Many many many years ago, McDonald's had a competition using "The McDonald's Rap". The rap song came in the form of a flexible LP single and was included with meals. Anyone who received a single that actually played the whole rap from beginning to end was a winner. Not sure if anyone else remembers this promotion, but about 20 years ago every idiot was singing this song, including me. Oh how the worrm turns.

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That was many years ago, and it was a sponsored contest. It agravates the hell out of me when people come into my business and act like idiots.

Or as it's termed here "actin a foo"

If they want to conduct business, they need to conduct it in a reasonable manner. Otherwise they need to go away until they can.

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I'm sure many would agree that McDonalds is marketed towards idiots? Why then would they be surprised when a few turn up at the drive-through? And as they had already left the establishment, what business is it of the police? They were no longer being "disorderly". Anal, that's what it is.

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I'm sure many would agree that McDonalds is marketed towards idiots? Why then would they be surprised when a few turn up at the drive-through?

I agree that they do pander to idiots. It still doesn't excuse rude and adolescent behavior.

And as they had already left the establishment, what business is it of the police? They were no longer being "disorderly". Anal, that's what it is.

I also agree that the ticket was dumb. A warning maybe at the most. Of course do we know if these kids decided to be a jerk to the cop and thus earned themselves a ticket?

Do we know that the kids left before the police were called? Or did they hang out and continued to be belligerent?

Here is how I think this went down. The kids roll up to the drive through, think they are being "cute" with the rap, the person behind the counter isn't amused and told them to order or leave, the kids probably at this point got mouthy and started cussing out the order taker. The order taker gets offended and calls the cops. The kids continue to berate and insult the order taker for a while, the order taker tells the kids the cops are on the way, then the kids take off, the order taker tells the police the description of the kids. The cops come across the kids, the kids decide to be disorderly to the cop, the cop writes them a ticket.

I deal with this kind of situation a lot. Believe me it's not just simply a kid being stupid and the adults over reacting. It usually goes well beyond the initial indecent.

reply to post by whatukno


It could have gone down like that, or it could have happened like this;

Some kids got smart at the drive through, the staff person probably decided to be condescending and play the kids for idiots. The kids obliged by being idiots, and were then threatened with the cops. They drive off but the manager not wanting to be made to look like a moron, calls the police any way. The cops come across the kids and ticket them for something they all forgot happened 10 minutes after the event. The kids might have gotten mouthy, but then when your dealing with anal people all the time, you're bound to get short once in a while.


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reply to post by getreadyalready


Posting something in youtube is not commercial usage. I'm not sure where you get your info from but I'd like to know

reply to post by quackers


Again, yes the ticket was probably unwarranted. But dealing with people on a regular basis as I do. I have to give the cops some credit.

I have dealt with ass hole cops, and I have dealt with cool cops. It's all dependent on the attitude you give them.

It's at an officers discretion to issue or not a ticket. Although lately it seems that little commonsense plays into people's decisions.
When I was a kid our local police would have went to your house, told on you and then expressed one last sentiment, "Knock that crap off!".

The MD's manager is obviously a sniveling little wimp, as has become the norm it seems, and wanted to make sure these kids were taught a lesson about messing around within the boundries of his kingdom.