Strange Clouds-ROMANIA *Similar to Russia*

Ok i will first start with a brief history with what i think is the cause of the strange phenomenon.

BUCHAREST, Romania - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Romanian counterpart signed a historic pact establishing the first American military bases in a former Warsaw Pact country. The U.S. takeover of bases near the Black Sea - putting U.S. forces within closer striking distance of potential targets in the Middle East and Central Asia - would help "take terrorists off the streets" and save lives around the world, Rice said on Tuesday. She called Romania - beset by allegations that it hosted a secret CIA prison - "a strong friend with whom we share common values." Rice, hailing Romania as one of the United States' "best allies," signed the agreement with Romanian Foreign Minister Mihai Razvan Ungureanu.

www.military.com...

Ok so we have millitary bases in Romania
Mihail Kogalniceanu


Babadag


Cincu


Smardan



So we have two bases near Constanta,one near Brasov and another near Galati.

Now for the strange clouds
#1 Constanta
This was filmed with an amateur cam on the highway to Constanta and it was sent to the TV station

#2 Slobozia

#3 Dragomiresti

#4 Ploiesti

The thing is they all happened recently and i have to say they look incredible.

Here is a map with the location of each cloud


The strange phenomenon are close to the bases.
Keep in mind that there could be more bases that are classified.
Romania has no authority over the american bases.
So what are those clouds HAARP, a missile of some kind, meteorological anomaly,a cloaked craft.

Yeah does not matter what is next to or near these coulds they are still just clouds. As a side not i find the HAARP thing interesting, is there anything that HAARP can't do?

great research. i don't know what to make of it

i star and flagged you tho'

Originally posted by zaiger
Yeah does not matter what is next to or near these coulds they are still just clouds. As a side not i find the HAARP thing interesting, is there anything that HAARP can't do?

how are they just clouds please provide a source for your claims.

reply to post by xSeraphim


there have been a few threads posted here with links to websites that explain what those clouds are.

hole punch clouds.

google that mess.

while i'm not trying to put a damper on your theory, i really think it's more of a natural phenomenon then some nefarious thing...and that is coming from a guy who constantly is looking for something nefarious

i used this one last night...here it goes again "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"

actually..here you go..i did the work for you.

www.schools.ash.org.au...
"many call 'hole punch' clouds or fallstreak holes - essentially, 'glaciating supercooled cloud' - ice crystals falling through a supercooled layer of cloud"


weatherthings.com...


www.meteorologynews.com...

"Such holes are formed when the water temperature in the clouds is below freezing but the water has not frozen yet due to the lack of ice nucleation particles. When a portion of the water does start to freeze it will set off a domino effect, due to the Bergeron process, causing the water vapor around it to freeze and fall to the earth as well. This leaves a large, often circular, hole in the cloud"
en.wikipedia.org...


so there you go. scientific explanations.

reply to post by xSeraphim


Good post xSeraphim! I had no idea there was more than one of these. It is interesting that several have been caught on film it makes you wonder how many have happened that have not been recorded. Also it is interesting that this is happening close to US military bases. I seen the one in Germany and thought it was neat but then I didnt give it much credence because I thought it could just be a funky cloud but with more of them it makes you wonder. Thanks for the research S & F...


[edit on 29-10-2009 by Melissa101]

Originally posted by iamsupermanv2
actually..here you go..i did the work for you.

www.schools.ash.org.au...
"many call 'hole punch' clouds or fallstreak holes - essentially, 'glaciating supercooled cloud' - ice crystals falling through a supercooled layer of cloud"


weatherthings.com...


www.meteorologynews.com...

"Such holes are formed when the water temperature in the clouds is below freezing but the water has not frozen yet due to the lack of ice nucleation particles. When a portion of the water does start to freeze it will set off a domino effect, due to the Bergeron process, causing the water vapor around it to freeze and fall to the earth as well. This leaves a large, often circular, hole in the cloud"
en.wikipedia.org...


so there you go. scientific explanations.

Thank you for the links they are very interesting
Here is another interesting cloud from Saudi Arabia www.youtube.cohttp.../watch?v=6Q4tPdSz8Tg&feature=player_embedded

I don't think this is HAARP. Looks more like sonic-boom. But a VERTICAL sonic boom. Weird...

While this might be a 'natural' thing, why now? and to be honest- why are more people noticing them?

reply to post by wylekat


sooo are you implying that this is a sign? and if so to what?

and if it is a natural phenomenon caused by unnatural things..then who and what?

reply to post by iamsupermanv2


I have to agree. It might be very interesting that so many images have been recorded recently but there are a couple of questions arising from this:

1) Is the actual frequency of such formations beyond anything normal for this area and time of year?

2) If there is an actual increase in these cloud formations, is this just due to changes in weather patterns?

I have yet to see anything to suggest this is not a normal meteorlogical phenomenom.

reply to post by iamsupermanv2


I'm not saying it's a sign- tho let's be honest- this planet needs a loud, booming voice to come from the heavens saying

'Here's your sign'.

However, the absence of these sorts of stories, then suddenly 2 similar ones in 2 separate areas of Europe (the continent) in a few weeks IS unusual...

Certain extraterrestrials (Pleiadians) can diguise their ships as clouds, FYI. Next time you see a cloud like the ones in the pictures, think twice before pawning it ofdf as a natural phenomenon.

Originally posted by wylekat
While this might be a 'natural' thing, why now? and to be honest- why are more people noticing them?

I think it's more a case that these days everyone has a digital camera or mobile phone with them and the ability to post their images immediately on the internet.

There are some great examples posted by weather enthusiasts on the Cloud appreciation Society website.

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by wylekat
While this might be a 'natural' thing, why now? and to be honest- why are more people noticing them?

I think it's more a case that these days everyone has a digital camera or mobile phone with them and the ability to post their images immediately on the internet.

There are some great examples posted by weather enthusiasts on the Cloud appreciation Society website.

No i don't think that's the cause.
The earths weather is prolly changing.

Hello All. Nice OP.

I have an entire thread on this topic (hole punch clouds) here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Enjoy!

Cheers,

Erik

Never seen anything like that in my life. Wow.

Good thinking and Good thread!
Connecting some dots.
Excellent.

Originally posted by Essan

There are some great examples posted by weather enthusiasts on the Cloud appreciation Society website.

Please - if something covert is actually happening -
it won't be the cloud appreciation society that gives us the truth.
They may name a new cloud - once a new cloud presents itself -
but they won't tell you why.
Think yourselves guys -
Things are not what they seem -
and certainly not what you are being told.