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Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to post by Rook1545
I see Michael Vick breaking a LAW, Dog Fighting. I see Plexico Burris, Shooting his OWNSELF in the LEG ... Jail two years. And yeah right he shot his ownself ... Jermichael Finley got caught with Marijuana. he is still playing. Anywys. just to name a few right off hand. Let's not even go back to Michael Irvin and a few of the cowboys .... Good Lord. He was just saying something, Isn't that protected by his First Amendment or do we have that anymore ?!?
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to post by Rook1545
And herein lies the problem !!! What are we doing letting these freedoms being taken away ?!?!?! it is time to stand up.
Originally posted by Rook1545
No, you don't have that anymore. You haven't for a long time. This forum, does not grant your Freedom of Speech, most websites don't. Off the top of my head, besides your own home, you really don't have Freedom of speech, it is pretty much an illusion.
Originally posted by GilligansSkipper
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Well you have to admit that his coach and boss do kinda suck. I mean they have lost nearly every game for the last two seasons. I feel his pain. Praise Allah, I am not a Chiefs fan.
Plus they are called the Chiefs, couldn't that be construed as a Native American slur?
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to
The First Amendment guarantees your right to free speech will not be infringed upon by the GOVERNMENT.
Not your boss. They have every right to deem what is and isn't appropriate for them and can and will tell you to STFU.
Case in point, the guy from Home Depot being fired over a pin.
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
reply to post by Deus_Brandon
I think you're missing the point. In most jobs you, rather on duty or not, are a representative of that company. And if you do things or make comments that, due to your position, one might associate with the company, you can and probably WILL be fired.
ESPECIALLY if you call your manager a faggot. Which is what Johnson did, he called his coach a faggot, then called the reporters faggots also. If he would have called him a cracker, or a peckerwood, or a honky then you probably would be posting an altogether different thread.
I think that because you're a "christian", and happen to side with his beliefs on "faggots" that is why you are championing his cause. Maybe you're just a Chiefs fan.
Do a quick search, type in 'employee fired facebook', or 'employee fired myspace' and see how often someone is fired because of idiocy they choose to put on the web.
Just as often people are fired for being arrested, etc... Not just something on the internet.
Not reprimanding Johnson for his statements could very easily have sent the message that the Chiefs support his actions. The same way Vick was condoned by his team, and the NFL for his, to distance their ideals, from his. And to note that they don't share those ideals, or will allow their employess to public endorse them either.
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to post by Rook1545
I see Michael Vick breaking a LAW, Dog Fighting. I see Plexico Burris, Shooting his OWNSELF in the LEG ... Jail two years. And yeah right he shot his ownself ... Jermichael Finley got caught with Marijuana. he is still playing. Anywys. just to name a few right off hand. Let's not even go back to Michael Irvin and a few of the cowboys .... Good Lord. He was just saying something, Isn't that protected by his First Amendment or do we have that anymore ?!?
Originally posted by Rook1545
reply to post by Deus_Brandon
If someone deems that they have the right to act like an idiot while being a public representative for a company, that company has the right to shut them up.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
And herein lies the problem !!! What are we doing letting these freedoms being taken away ?!?!?! it is time to stand up.
I'm not seeing an issue here. The players and coaches are compensated MASSIVELY for any loss of rights. They want the millions they sign the paper. It's an agreement with the team. AGREEMENT.
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to
The First Amendment guarantees your right to free speech will not be infringed upon by the GOVERNMENT.
Not your boss. They have every right to deem what is and isn't appropriate for them and can and will tell you to STFU.
Case in point, the guy from Home Depot being fired over a pin.
This simply should not BE,Although didn't the guy from Home Depot do that while at work !?!? Anyhow, this is just not right. What am I going to do about it ... Probably nothing. but that is what we have been doing about it and why the new money just came out without "In God We Trust" on it and what will be next. O lord. Dispersing money overseas to make sure everyone has alittle this is just CRAZY. But this thread is not about that. Back to the first amendment rights.
NOONE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THEM AWAY !!!
[edit on 28-10-2009 by Deus_Brandon]
[edit on 28-10-2009 by Deus_Brandon]
Originally posted by GilligansSkipper
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Where I work we call each other way worse stuff than that to each others faces. Nobody fires us, they jut act like real men and call us something worse then everybody laughs.
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to post by Rook1545
I do understand where you are coming from, and what you are saying. however whenever I leave work. I am not working anymore I am aloud to say whatever it is that I want to say. And what I say away from work what I wear away from work is not a representative of myself at work. That is my WORKING APPEARANCE Vs. My OWN PERSONAL APPEARANCE when I am at home and not working I barely get out of a white t shirt and Pajama bottoms.
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
reply to post by Rook1545
What are we doing letting these freedoms being taken away ?!?!?! it is time to stand up.