Heres one for you,Mafia...........

not secret, everyone knows it exists but in some cases it is secret,i mean not any person can just go the some building and talk to them, you catch the jist of what im saying. Well i was wondering if anyone knew, Is the mafia still very active but doing it quietly or waiting for a time to come back out. or has it died and is weak?

The Mafia will never "die out..."

I know a spot in Miami that is a Gambino Family hangout and I've been there many times- it's nothing bad.

People think the Mafia is dying because there aren't no more Gambino's or Bonanno's or Gotti's who had the power and the media strenght.

Take a look at the Bonanno Family. The FBI was so sure that the Bonanno Family was going to cease to exist after the Donnie Brasco operation locked up most of the members of the family.

But Joseph Massino or "Big Joey" resurrected the family and it's one of the strongest Cosa Nostra families in the United States.

The Mafia is still alive and well...

The Japanese Mafia is alive and well over here in Japan.
Pretty easy to pick out who they are....

really? i have never reaad up on the Japan Mafia, any interesting facts or anything? just interested also how do you know someone is in it??

Yes the Yakuza (japanese mafia) is very interesting. Members are often covered from their shoulders down in very elaborate and distinct tattoo's, making them easy to recognize. Some members are also missing the tip of their left pinky.

Originally posted by Khonsu
Yes the Yakuza (japanese mafia) is very interesting. Members are often covered from their shoulders down in very elaborate and distinct tattoo's, making them easy to recognize. Some members are also missing the tip of their left pinky.

Exactly, usually the ones missing the pinky are the ones that made a mistake... Not your typical employer huh?
The Japanese mafia controls many segments and you can easily tell who belongs to it. They normally do not bother regular folks, I have walked around them as they are all over shinjuku, but have never been bothered. As long as you are not into drugs or borrow money or another business with them, they leave you alone.

If you would like to learn about them, read this link. It covers the whole history of the Yakuza.
w1.313.telia.com...

just last year there was a massive bust on a mafia family here in canada. A old brewery (molson canadian) was transformed into a massive pot garden with lights and all....it was said to have costed a few hundred thousand for the proper lights and all. The mafia is still strong worldwide...just their operations arent how they once were (blowing up buildings and shooting ppl everywhere).

Ever major city in the world has some sort of criminal organisation. Organized crime will never die out, not matter how much the FBI and others try to stop them.

Thats interesting thanks for the response im interested in the outside the US orgs. any more info?

The internet has fueled a large increase in organized crime; wire fraud, banking fraud, ability to communicate, etc. It will be interesting to see how this evolves. The FBI recently busted a russian mob for gasoline tax fraud, i think it was several million they defrauded the US government on.
I also think it is a mistake to completely seperate elected governments from organized crime. The US navy(this is factual) used the new york mafia during WW2, The Kennedy white house was alleged to have contacted the Mafia to kill Castro, etc. Governments use organized crime when it suits them, and Organized crime enlist the help of Government when it suits them. its an interesting relationship

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IS THE MAFIA STILL ACTIVE??? Let's think....

Remember when charging loanshark interest rates of 20-40% used to be illegal?

Remember when stealing huge sums of government and pension funds used to be illegal?

Remember when bribing and intimidating politicians and judges with money used to be illegal?

Remember when millionaires not paying income taxes used to be illegal?

Remember when mortgage(land fraud) used to be illegal?

All these actions USED to put mafia members in prison....

Trivia question: What Asst. Attorney General in the 80's Reagan administration tossed out a Florida Double-Punched Votes voter fraud case? Antonin Scalia.

Who was instrumental in picking Bush as President by unconstitutionally stopping the Constitutional hand-counting of Florida Votes? Antonin Scalia.

What was the lawyer's name that got Cindy McCain's dad off of 12 Federal counts of Racketeering in Arizona with his Beer distributorship, Marley and Sons? William Rhenquist.

What infamous group was implicated in the Keating Arizona Land fraud and loan scandals that McCain got in trouble for trying to stall and stop? The mafia...

William Bonnano was tried and put in prison in the 70's as soon as he got out of the Army for "tax evasion". That's LEGAL now if you run it through now-Legalized offshore accounts... like Romney.

Cheney and Gonzales were indicted for racketeering years ago in Texas over prison contracts, but THAT's been hushed up. Gonzalez has long been identified in public comments as part of the Texas Mafia.

The CIA was caught running drugs in Iran/Contra. They set up the drug money-laundering BCCI. They led us to take over Afghanistan to capture or kill 100 al Qaeda members and bin Laden. Afghanistan went from 5% to 95% of the world's heroin supply by 2008.

Now...still wondering if the Mafia is still active? It's taken over.

If you think Liberals are Commies, and Unions are Evil, you're part of the problem in America. "We, the people, in order to form a more perfect union, Of, By, and For the PEOPLE... Pretty crazy Socialist ideas there. And Yes- Unions ARE designed to protect people, including the UNION of states, called the United States.

February 28, 2009 4:35 PM

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THE GAZETTE

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Loved that movie,,
or was it????
hmmmmm
lol

Me.

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Now...still wondering if the Mafia is still active? It's taken over.

I agree with this statement completely. Gangsters have been consolidating power over the last 100 years or so and are now more powerful than at any time in history. And organisations like the Italian/American mafia families as portrayed in popular culture...think the godfather etc...are really only the middle tier of the full spectrum of power. They run casinos, steal jewelery, sell narcotics, extort businessmen...the middle ground of criminal activities.

Sure, the Genovese and the Gambino familes wield a fair bit of clout but still their bosses end up murdered or in prison. The real top of the heap, the upper tier of organised crime, the guys who sell billions of dollars worth of weapons, move metric tons of drugs from continent to continent, start wars and plunder entire nations are 3 star generals; US chiefs of staff, directors of the CIA, DEA, ATF etc etc...s of NATO...these guys don't go to prison.

Vito Genovese, one of the most powerful American mafia bosses, died in prison. You can bet his buddies in the US armed forces didn't.

From what I understand the Mafia was hit hard during the 80s and 90s and got a slight breathing room after 911. Its still around it power is suffering in face of the burdening panopticon state.

Now the Japanese Yakuza on the other hand seems to be doing well, they're far more tolerated and connected with politics than our Mafia could ever dream of being, and are far more blatant about their locations and where their bases of operation are.

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I remember when running a numbers game was wrong, isn't the lotto number one interest in the USA?

u know i thought maybe ,,for longer than a split second,,lol
(as u know ,,,,how ,,,,no publicity ,,,,is good policy,,
right,,Mr. Siegal,,,et al.)
but then i flagged it ,cause ,
it is funny how ,
just the other day a,, Italien(?),,,someone in,,, Italy/Rome,,,,,, Nuclear Power EXEC got ,
,kneecapped,,
well first thing i thought of was IRA,,,FLQ,,CIA,,NBC,, u know 3 letters,,
but then again it could be some punk,, but i doubt it.
So somebody lose some money?
or was someone given an inspirational,,, viewpoint?
Anyway,,
ya,,maybe nothing too it,,jealous wife or something.

Me.