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The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones

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posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 01:01 PM
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Soviet / American Clones ?


Here is a photo of Walter Mondale taken in 1984 by Chris Schneider. It is an important picture because it reveals for all to see what we might call the Reptilian Gaze or Clone Stare which you can often see in possessed or controlled malevolent entities in positions of power.


American Presidential Candidate Walter Mondale



You will note without too much difficulty that his glaring look is not enticing and does not compel to trust this man, you even wonder if he won't lash out a long tongue like a toad awaiting a fly. But strange looks alone are not enough to suspect someone of being a clone. Strangely looking alike is better evidence of either being an identical twin, and if not completely contemporary, of being a clone.


Let us take a look at the composition of the Soviet Union's highest political instance, the governing power of Communist Russia, the Soviet Politburo. Here is a link to a full scale picture, with one person circled whom I would appreciate if somebody could confirm his identify as Victor Vasilyevich Grishin.


Soviet Politburo with member circled


We will notice that his face isn't entirely unfamiliar, and we can compare it to that of one of the United State's highest elected officials, second in command only to the President of the USA. Let us use the official photo of the Vice-President of the United States of America, Walter Mondale, for comparison purposes.


Walter Mondale and Soviet Politburo member



We can dismiss this as merely a coincidence of nature, because sometimes people can be born with similar genetic makeup on different sides of the globe. But in competing systems, at the highest power levels, this becomes less likely although an isolated instance can be conceived of. Now let us take another look at some of the members of the Soviet Politburo. Here we can see the same picture with a different member circled.


Soviet Politburo with a second member circled


We will note that he appears an ordinary looking man, so we might be well advised to compare him to another ordinary looking man. How about a United States Senator who ran for President of the United States in 1964, right after the Kennedy assassination? Did the Clone Conspirators assassinate JFK? Probably. Given the absolute power they have exercised throughout the world.





It was probably for this speech, and his desire to expose how the Clones were taking over, that John Fitzgerald Kennedy made met such an improbable and normally impossible end, removing all security and falsifying the investigation.


Here is a photo comparison of one Soviet leader and one American leader.


Barry Goldwater and Soviet Politburo Member



Here is the Soviet Politburo member shown next to the Presidential Campaign poster for his candidacy for the Presidency of the United States.


Soviet Vs. American Leaders



Barry Goldwater Biography


Could this be why the Klu Klux Klan endorsed his candidacy in San Francisco? Is the KKK also manipulated by the Clones? They wouldn't need to except that they could use duplicates of the most famous Clones to get those in the know to believe that this movement is endorsed by the very highest authorities. Others would only get to peek at their bedsheets.


Pro Goldwater Demonstration in 1964



You will also notice that Barry Goldwater shares the same Watery Reptilian Gaze or should we call it the Clone Stare which was also seen in the eyes of Walter Mondale.


Goldwater with THAT LOOK



Returning to more contemporary times, although it is about a long time political animal, we shall turn once again to the official portraits of the Soviet Politburo members and take a look at another one which has been circled in red.


Soviet Politburo with a third member circled


While this Russian member of the highest power circle in Moscow doesn't look like anyone in public office in Washington, he isn't without a family air with an eminent personality, friend or foe to many politicians and definitely a power to be reckoned with on the American Political Scene. He was twice candidate to the US Presidency and created The American Cause Foundation as well as the magazine The American Conservative. He was speach writer for President Richard Nixon and was suspected to be "Deep Throat" in the Watergate scandal.


He went on to become special advisor to Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagon. Today and hosts the country's leading Political Debates and remains a mainstay of American Politics. I refer to Patrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan.


Pat Buchanan and Soviet Politburo member



There are a number of matters which remain to be clarified. These are whether the Clones are aware of being clones. Mind Control technology has advanced with great strides during over a century of scientific research in the field and most countries have Military Programs using these techniques for intelligence or counterintelligence purposes at least, and probably for other experimental applications too.


Also, we must know what these Cloned Leaders might do once we start revealing their true identities. We would need to first notify the Military middle ranks and not the top brass in a first stage. Otherwise they could be commanded to do just about anything and we'd never stand a fighting chance.


[edit on 29-11-2009 by Getsmart]



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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Getsmart,

You were talking about the removal & replacement of humans in a previous post. I think this could have something to do w/ energy frequency. A human or positively-inclined being will have a different, higher frequency than will a negatively-inclined being or clone. The presence of higher frequency beings maintains the overall frequency at a higher level than would be in existence without them. By getting rid of these beings, "they" are able to lower the overall frequency - bringing it down to a level that resonates with them. So, it is a way to fill the ranks w/ their people - making it easier to completely hi-jack this world & put it under their complete domination & control.

Oh, & the comp w/ Pat Buchanan is VERY convincing. They could be twins... maybe they are :-o



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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Hi Faulcon,


Thanks for your comments. I think this Conspiracy Theory is too unexpected and too extensive for anyone to wrap their mind around it. So people aren't stumbling over one another to post their opinion. Actually this is because if you find it grotesquely impossible, you dial out and don't bother speaking your piece, and if you consider there might be something to it being a conspiracy, then one huge piece of the puzzle is missing making it hard to forge a more precise opinion.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

You were talking about the removal & replacement of humans in a previous post. I think this could have something to do w/ energy frequency.



Regarding energy frequency, one could conceive that one's genetic structure could act like a cosmic harmonic tuning fork, or even as a vibratory instrument which radiates on its own energy potentials from which a being within that body can bring to resonate differently in various ways. If so then we can see what the interest in genetic engineering to change this instrument, not just to make somebody physically stronger or more attractive, mentally quicker or more intelligent, but with a more interesting potential as an energetic influence in a number of planes of reality?


For those reading this who find the last paragraph to be mumbo jumbo or spiritualistic mystification, it was just an idea about a possibility, that of a multiple planes of existence of which cloned bodies are only one aspect, but for which physical cloning could serve a purpose. There are plenty of other aspects to this cloning phenomenon worth exploring, and the spiritual aspect is one key among several to try to unlock the mystery.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

A human or positively-inclined being will have a different, higher frequency than will a negatively-inclined being or clone.



From this statement, I take it you mean that the frequency of a being is not determined in any way by their genetic structure, as I wondered above. This would mean that a low spiritual state will produce low frequency resonance, whereas a high frequency state would produce higher resonance. Then there is no vibratory purpose to selecting specific bloodlines or genetic structures to be able to produce given specific frequencies or ranges of frequencies?


Accordingly, clones will be used because they are custom made lower entities, not naturally born potentially higher entities? Then they have other reasons to choose who they clone from, what the originating DNA is and what tweaks they may bring to it before creating the clone. So we would be looking at a twofold motivation in cloning leaders who are not only lower energy entities given they are just creations, but also have certain secondary features through their bloodline genetic sourcing. I have to admit that this is getting complicated, although the truth isn't always simple.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

The presence of higher frequency beings maintains the overall frequency at a higher level than would be in existence without them. By getting rid of these beings, "they" are able to lower the overall frequency - bringing it down to a level that resonates with them.



You are referring here to the overall frequency of society, of humanity taken as a harmonic resonance in this or other planes of existence. From what I gather, you are suggesting that the Clone Conspiracy is a conspiracy to affect the harmonic vibration of Earth by lowering its frequency to make it easier for demonic beings or dimensional Aliens living in a lower dimension to invade our physical world and take control?



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

So, it is a way to fill the ranks w/ their people - making it easier to completely hi-jack this world & put it under their complete domination & control.



For you then this Army of Clones to which I referred earlier was created to help them in this task, and that the Clones are "their people" as are the Satanists and assorted Luciferians, as well as the demon possessed Bloodline Illuminati Elites.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

Oh, & the comp w/ Pat Buchanan is VERY convincing. They could be twins... maybe they are :-o



Either something strange is going on, or we need to learn more about how physical features and genetic patterns can spontaneously produce similarly constituted leaders at the head of major superpowers either simultaneously or with several thousand years delay.


What we can note is that these people are certainly not the same inside. You can tell that they have been exposed to considerably different events and educations, and that their facial features, wrinkles and expressions are quite different. They have different personalities and different character, just as would identical twins if raised entirely separately. It is however incongruous to see them on two opposing sides each one wielding atomic bombs threatening the other. For one was in the Politburo which could decide atomic war, and the other was special advisor to three Presidents who could push the button.


Given that much of our history is a lie - - don't tell me that they didn't burn down the Alexandria Library without a reason - - we must not worry when our theories don't coincide with what we think the situation was back then. Most of World War II history, although recent with many first hand witnesses to testify, was falsified. The reasons invoked for wars were not the real ones. The reasons invoked for treaties weren't either. The motivations for reconstruction neither. The lies could line human history like so much wallpaper. They decorate our everyday vision of reality and furnish it with such convenience that we needn't look any further. But it is all distorted, fabricated and contrived.


It has been irrevocably established by Historians that there were deep complicities between the rise of Hitler and the British and American Anglo-Saxon financial and industrial Elites. From Andrew Carnegie through Henry Ford to Prescott Bush and the Harriman brothers there was great interest in spreading Social Darwinism and Eugenics through Nazi Germany. There were also serious complicities with most of the German aristocracy, which extended beyond its borders both to the East and the West. The Cold War Lie is just another.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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Here are a few more Soviet Politburo members who have a lookalike in US leadership positions. The first one is disquieting because he is a man who attempted to take over the USA by a quasi Military Coup when Ronald Reagan was shot. He convened the Media and said "Worry not, I'm in charge!" He was a top General in the US Army and had no authority to take power in the USA, the normal order being first the Vice President, next the House Speaker, etc. His lookalike can be seen in the same old Soviet Politburo official photograph.


A fourth Soviet Politburo member circled in red


We must understand that this person was one of the main Americans who would have to implement an eventual nuclear attack against the USA's Cold War enemy the Soviet Union. One cannot easily understand how the Pentagon would let this occur, a lookalike at the very top of the enemy's hierarchy of one of their most important military officers. Was this ever investigated? Was it covered up and were those investigating taken care of?


General Alexander Haig and Soviet Politburo member



White House Chief of Staff Alexander Haig is seen here with President Richard Nixon, future President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger whom he replaced in the Reagan Administration.


Am I the only clone in the room ?



He went on to become Supreme Allied Commander in Europe with Atomic capability. When John Hinckley shot Reagan in an assassination attempt Haig asserted: "I'm in control here". It has been claimed that this error of judgement brought an end to his political career. Admittedly, Reagan survived the attack and Haig never took over the United States, and resigned on July 5th, 1982.


A fifth Soviet Politburo member circled in red


It appears that leadership has usually been considered to also be something which is operated on the sidelines, in the wings of politics and society. There is much to be said about starting trends, influencing lifestyles and rubbing elbows with the rich and famous.


The seducer with his conquest



But beyond being quite the ladies' man, he was the brother in law of an Very Important Person, in fact of the #1 VIP in the USA.


Peter Lawford with his in-laws



He married Pat Kennedy, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy's sister. You can say he had the ear of the President, and also had access to much classified information as well as leverage through family ties.


Peter Lawford and a Soviet Politburo member



We can see to what extent he was "integrated" to the Kennedy family.


Laughing at a Russian Joke?



Peter Lawford was quite the shaker and mover. I mentioned earlier that there might be a relationship between Kennedy's assassination and his opposition to a Secret Conspiracy, he condemned it harshly in the speech linked above in the previous page.


He apparently was accutely aware of this conspiracy and of its "tentacles" that reached the highest levels of society, asking the press for their help to combat it. He was murdered shortly after. Some believe that the death of Marilyn Monroe was meant to serve as a warning for him to cease and desist, warning which he did not heed at the risk of his own life. We can note that JFK's brother in law was quite connected to Marilyn also.


Peter Lawford one of the last to speak to Marilyn



Peter Lawford also had an interesting activity by being member of the notorious Rat Pack. These men travelled together, staying in Swank Suites and partying with Wild Women. But this was probably a cover for
a joint coordination of a number of secret organizations.


Peter Lawford could have represented the powers behind the Clone Conspiracy. We know Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin are said to have represented the Mafia, Sammy Davis Junior may have represented the black crime syndicate as he was notoriously active in the Church of Satan, while Joey Bishop born Joseph Abraham Gottlieb in the Bronx may have brought another connection, he not coincidentally organized JFK's Presidential Inauguration Gala.


Peter Lawford in the Rat Pack



We would be justified to find out who the other 6 represented in this photo, as well as who was the twelfth person in the picture. It might convey a secret message as to what organizations where in cahoots at that time, using these guys as surrogate communicators for common negotiations or dispute settlement?


Original Ocean's Eleven Cast



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posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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... CONTINUED


There is another portrait in the gallery of Politburo members who may remind us of an American public figure. While he isn't known for being a politician, he was nonetheless connected to the American political scene for quite a few decades.


A sixth Soviet Politburo member circled in red


He does not look like a politician but like a preacher, a clergyman. So why should this interest us, isn't this thread about Cloned Leaders? How big was this pastor's flock, and who was he able to influence? Let us consider the matter.


Reverand Billy Graham and Soviet Politburo member



We will note that after influencing American values through the Rat Pack with sex and gambling in the forefront, the same group has taken power over American Family values through religious beliefs and therefore the sociocultural manipulation spans the entire horizon.


Family man Billy Graham with his wife Ruth



You will note that Billy Graham confessed many US Presidents, and "brought them the Lord's word". Which lord was speaking at that time remains between him and those Presidents.


Eisenhower: You MUST hide our presence on Earth !



Was it Lord Lucifer, as some have been tempted to believe ? Here is a Time Magazine cover which claims that he was spiritual guide to United States Presidents from Harry Truman to George Bush Junior.


Time Magazine Cover



Time gives Billy Graham Devil's Horns



Giving credit where credit is due


Was Billy Graham possessed? Did he really represent a "Higher Authority" from the Heavens? or was he inhabited by an dimensional Alien from the 5th Dimension? A record of his preaching might help provide the answer in which he carries a symbolic Black Bible.


Billy Graham at the World Fair



Whatever his origins, cloned or natural, whatever his conviction, possessed or mind controlled, he had an undeniable influence on all the American Presidents during the second half of the 20th Century. He must have had something to peddle or nobody would have spared him more than a ten minute courtesy chat.


The 5th Dimension Clone Stare



Many believe Billy Graham to be practicing Satanist and consider his influence extremely harmful on the American population. Here is a link to the website of Pastor Harry Walther, one such detractors who unabashedly accuse him of this malevolent demonic action.


Billy Graham and the Altar of Satan


Billy the Goat



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart
I think this Conspiracy Theory is too unexpected and too extensive for anyone to wrap their mind around it. So people aren't stumbling over one another to post their opinion. Actually this is because if you find it grotesquely impossible, you dial out and don't bother speaking your piece, and if you consider there might be something to it being a conspiracy, then one huge piece of the puzzle is missing making it hard to forge a more precise opinion.

True. I've been researching doubles for over a year now, so this isn't really anything shocking to me. Dr. Beter talked about how politicians were being replaced by robotoids already back in the late 1970's, so the idea that politicians & other leaders are cloned & replaced w/ clones is just a variation on a theme. I think TPTB will do anything to control & manipulate the masses. I bet it didn't take them long at all to come up w/ the idea of replacing an important person they didn't like w/ a double they did like.



Regarding energy frequency, one could conceive that one's genetic structure could act like a cosmic harmonic tuning fork, or even as a vibratory instrument which radiates on its own energy potentials from which a being within that body can bring to resonate differently in various ways. If so then we can see what the interest in genetic engineering to change this instrument ... with a more interesting potential as an energetic influence in a number of planes of reality?

Yes - energy & DNA somehow fits into this...



From this statement, I take it you mean that the frequency of a being is not determined in any way by their genetic structure, as I wondered above. This would mean that a low spiritual state will produce low frequency resonance, whereas a high frequency state would produce higher resonance. Then there is no vibratory purpose to selecting specific bloodlines or genetic structures to be able to produce given specific frequencies or ranges of frequencies?

I think a more spiritually-evolved being would probably manifest a body w/ a higher energy frequency than a dark being. Maybe it will choose a particular DNA template for that purpose. The physical body a dark-souled being manifests may have a lower frequency that reflects its soul frequency. I believe the soul has a frequency & will seek out a compatible frequency. If you are a low-frequency/dark being, being around high-frequency could be uncomfortable & vice versa. So... creating clones that are either soul-less or inhabited by dark beings would be a way to fill the ranks & lower the overall frequency here.


Accordingly, clones will be used because they are custom made lower entities, not naturally born potentially higher entities?

Right. The clone may remain soul-less or be a vessel for a particular entity - probably lower entity, considering the people who are behind this. They may even have the technology for soul transfers.


Then they have other reasons to choose who they clone from, what the originating DNA is and what tweaks they may bring to it before creating the clone. So we would be looking at a twofold motivation in cloning leaders who are not only lower energy entities given they are just creations, but also have certain secondary features through their bloodline genetic sourcing.

Exactly. The soul of a dark being would resonate w/ the DNA of another dark being... The DNA may be "tuned" to the frequency of that soul, or at least be compatible. Now, I'm wondering which leaders would even be suitable for cloning... For ex, would George Washington's DNA be suitable, assuming he was a light-being, which I believe he was (he was an enemy of the Illuminati)? Would Marcus Aurelius be a good candidate?



You are referring here to the overall frequency of society, of humanity taken as a harmonic resonance in this or other planes of existence. From what I gather, you are suggesting that the Clone Conspiracy is a conspiracy to affect the harmonic vibration of Earth by lowering its frequency to make it easier for demonic beings or dimensional Aliens living in a lower dimension to invade our physical world and take control?

Yes, exactly. Kind of like how you have to prime aquarium water for tropical fish...



For you then this Army of Clones to which I referred earlier was created to help them in this task, and that the Clones are "their people" as are the Satanists and assorted Luciferians, as well as the demon possessed Bloodline Illuminati Elites.

Yes. I believe that is, at least, one part of it. Of course, there is also the manipulation & control of the masses aspect.


[edit on 29-11-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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This is getting rather tedious and not so much fun with each Clone discovered. Who are they working for? Let us take another look at that page of Soviet Politburo portraits, and look at which one has been circled.


An additional Soviet Politburo member circled in red


There is therefore yet another candidate for a cloned twin, he was also a brother in law of President John F. Kennedy. His name was Robert Sargent Shriver and he can be seen here in the same photo as Peter Lawford, standing in front of his wife Eunice Kennedy Shriver.


Robert Sargent Shriver and Eunice Kennedy



In the original photo near the Lawfords



Robert Sargent Shriver and Soviet Politburo member



Robert and John taking a stroll



He was nominated by JFK the first Director of the Peace Corps, a humanitarian organization which is notorious for having been infiltrated over the years by covert operatives with ulterior motives such as espionage, or worse.


Peace Corps Promotional Issue of Time Magazine



Just as Peter Lawford was close to Marilyn Monroe whose life was ended without an acceptable investigation as to the causes of her death, Robert Sargent Shriver was in the entourage of Martin Luther King whose untimely demise did not slow the political future of this Kennedy spouse. Martin Luther King was assassinated on April 6th, 1968 and Robert Sargent Shriver was coincidentally nominated United States Ambassador to France on April 22nd, 1968.


Robert Sargent Shriver with Martin Luther King



Biography of Robert Sargent Shriver


You will note that while Peter Lawford was around Marilyn Monroe when she died, Robert Sargent Shriver was around Martin Luther King when he was killed, and the pair of them were around John F. Kennedy when he was assassinated.


We also know that he gave his daughter away in marriage to the son of a Nazi SS Officer, who venerates Hitler and who's godfather was a Nazi war criminal, Kurt Waldheim.


Robert and Eunice Sargent Shriver with Arnold Schwarzenegger



If Arnold is a Clone, then it is true that they don't age well



His son in law Arnold Schwartzenneger is reportedly destined by his 'handlers' to take over the United States in a forthcoming Presidency, to this effect Zbigniew Brzezinski may have purposely arranged a precedent thanks to Barrack Obama's dubious birthplace loudly called into question as a preconditioning maneuver. Sieg Heil !


United States President a Cloned Soviet ?




There is yet another member of the Politburo whose appearance is particularly embarassing, because his clone apparently made it to the top of the pile in the USA. Here he is circled in red.


This Soviet Politburo member is circled in red for reference


We can take a closer look at him next to a well know American Politician who appeared to come seemingly out of nowhere having been, just like Barack Obama, hand picked for the job by Zbigniew Brzezinski.


Jimmy Carter and a Soviet Politburo member



It appears that the Soviets may have had an advance supply of replacement clones, or of Robotoids, to replace the Carter Clone, if one is to believe Doctor Beter who studied the numerous breakdowns and changes in appearance of that American president.


Dr Beter's Report on the replacement of Jimmy Carter



Here's just a few of the people who have been cloned. Carter, Mondale, David and Lawrence Rockefeller, and Defense Secretary Brown (cloned April 6, 1979). On July 5, 1979 Carter was supposed to give an energy speech. It was canceled and the home-cloned family of the Carters were sent to Camp David. The original Carter clone was "burning out'. Camp David appears to be the place where many people in government are replaced with clones, so if you get a personal invitation to go to Camp David, I would decline if I were you...

On July 15, a Sunday, Carter gave his energy speech, and two days later on July 17th, the entire presidential cabinet and senior White House staff members resigned, all at once... In other countries, it would have meant that the government has fallen, but not in the United States.

The Carter clones had some trouble in the beginning because of real instabilities in the brain of the human being we knew as Carter. A new type of clone has also been created recently. It's called a genetic synthetic.

1995 Lecture by Alex Collier



We will note that William Cooper mentions not only Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale as Clones, but also United States Defense Secretary Harold Brown. Armed with this information I took another glance at the Soviet Politburo photos and circled the one which you can see here.


One more Soviet Politburo member circled in red


I found an official photograph of the former Defense Secretary Brown posing in his office and did a simple visual comparison.


Defense Secretary Harold Brown and Soviet Polutburo member



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posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

Dr. Beter talked about how politicians were being replaced by robotoids already back in the late 1970's, so the idea that politicians & other leaders are cloned & replaced w/ clones is just a variation on a theme. I think TPTB will do anything to control & manipulate the masses. I bet it didn't take them long at all to come up w/ the idea of replacing an important person they didn't like w/ a double they did like.



What has me troubled here, is that there is a recurring pattern of Soviet and American leaders with similar genetic makeup. Up until now I had given credence to much of Doctor Beter's research but thought he had missed the mark imagining that it was the Soviets behind this. Just look at what we can now see.


Are these political leaders clones of one another? Logic would have it that the Soviets might have cloned themselves and taken over the USA using the KGB, occult groups such as Freemasonry without so informing the members, and satanic Luciferian cults which regroup a lot of politicians and power brokers. It would be that simple to operate an invisible Coup without shooting a single bullet. There were probably assisted by a large 5th Column operating according to the Soviet brainwashing field manual published in the 1920's.


The Soviet Art of Brainwashing


It is well worth the read. It has sections on how to live out one's life for decades in stealth mode, constantly finding ways to modify mentalities and social interactions. For those seeking a shorter abridged version there is always the one summarized by CIA operative and Scientology Sect founder Ron Hubbard some thirty years later.


The Brainwashing Manual



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

I believe the soul has a frequency & will seek out a compatible frequency. If you are a low-frequency/dark being, being around high-frequency could be uncomfortable & vice versa. So... creating clones that are either soul-less or inhabited by dark beings would be a way to fill the ranks & lower the overall frequency here.



We must get to the bottom of this, because if you can capture the gaze these entities have when they get possessed, it is very disturbing, especially if you realize what lengths such a mental condition predisposes them to reach. Somehow, we must find a way to intervene either where they are cloning, to put an end to their abusive use of this technology, or else on the plane where other entities take possession of these clones.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

The clone may remain soul-less or be a vessel for a particular entity - probably lower entity, considering the people who are behind this. They may even have the technology for soul transfers.



Soul transfers is a scary one, because it is the key to eternal life and the greatest blackmail anybody could ever be subject to. The potential for abuse of such technology is immense, and obviously to date this is totally unregulated, the criminals having taken over the jail house. With this technology anybody could become anybody. Don't even start to imagine what that means.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

The soul of a dark being would resonate w/ the DNA of another dark being... The DNA may be "tuned" to the frequency of that soul, or at least be compatible.



Maybe those who are haunted have something in their genetic makeup that attracts malevolent entities? Haunting might be frustrated attempts at possession, or initial conditioning to lower the victim's frequency so that possession can take place.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

Now, I'm wondering which leaders would even be suitable for cloning... For ex, would George Washington's DNA be suitable, assuming he was a light-being, which I believe he was (he was an enemy of the Illuminati)? Would Marcus Aurelius be a good candidate?



The jury is out on George Washington. He was a Master Mason, and we know that at the top they venerate Lucifer. Also he achieved what Francis Bacon wanted, the founding of the New Atlantis. Before his battles he said he ventured out into the woods and met with spirits who told him what course of action to take. Who or what those entities were remains a mystery. He didn't mention they were divine, which leaves little open to suggestion. And there are those who believe he was a Clone of Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati.


Regarding Marcus Aurelius, I think I happen to know of an earlier clone, but will U2U you on this because he wasn't a political leader but a well known foreign actor. I'm actually not against cloning, only it shouldn't be done without provisions for clones to be "entirely human" with a soul, it shouldn't be without their knowledge, it shouldn't be to manipulate politics or society, and it shouldn't be to harbor demonic entities which invade us and are bent on our destruction.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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I think there's some good stuff in Beter's research, even if he didn't get everything 100% right... His source was supposedly an insider, so that person might have been giving him disinfo. Of course, there's going to be some truth in disinfo, right?


Somehow, we must find a way to intervene either where they are cloning, to put an end to their abusive use of this technology, or else on the plane where other entities take possession of these clones.

Maybe the fact that people are finding out about it will help...


Haunting might be frustrated attempts at possession, or initial conditioning to lower the victim's frequency so that possession can take place.

I think when a person is targeted like that, the entity is trying to scare them to lower their energy & make them easier to take over. Again, it's like priming the body by bringing the energy down to the entity's level & making it more compatible. I think the abuses in mind control programs like MKULTRA are also for enabling possession to occur.


The jury is out on George Washington. He was a Master Mason, and we know that at the top they venerate Lucifer.


I will jump to GW's defense. He said in a letter to the Reverend G. W. Snyder (24 October 1798):

"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.
The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, orinstrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned."

Paraphrasing: George Washington said the doctrines of the Illuminati and principles of Jacobinism had spread to USA. He said he did not believe that the Free Mason lodges in USA had attempted to spread the "diabolical tenets" of the Illuminati, or "pernicious principles" of the Jacobites (if they were even separate things). He said that it was too obvious to question that some individuals or founders of those groups had that objective, maybe even the objective of separating the people from their govt.

So, if GW is calling the Illuminati's tenets "diabolical," which they are, it doesn't really seem like he was a fan.


Before his battles he said he ventured out into the woods and met with spirits who told him what course of action to take. Who or what those entities were remains a mystery. He didn't mention they were divine, which leaves little open to suggestion.

I just asked my father about this, who is a GW scholar. He says that GW prayed to God, but never asked for a particular outcome - just to be given strength. He said the story about praying to spirits in the way you described was "false," & was written 60 yrs after GW died.



Regarding Marcus Aurelius, I think I happen to know of an earlier clone, but will U2U you on this because he wasn't a political leader but a well known foreign actor.

So, you know what I'm saying about MA, right? Many consider him to be the model of the philosopher king & the exception to the rule that absolute power corrupts absolutely.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:11 AM
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Freeman talks about cloning from mummies about 1/2 way thru

Freeman - Obama Cloning & The Coming Space War Part7




posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Faulcon, thanks for those important comments and the very interesting link to that Freeman video. His earlier video number 6 brings forth the idea of Apophis, just after minute 8:00 in this video.





The origin of Apophis in Egyptian antiquity is the original Hell, or 5th Dimension. We must note that Obama would be, according to Freeman a Clone of the Pharaoh Amenhotep IV, who changed his name in the sixth year of his reign to Akhenaton. Obama's genetic donor may have been chosen today to create a new World Religion, given that his Egyptian Predecessor is best known for launching the first monotheistic cult religion worshipping the sun-god Aten (the "disk"). During his reign, he erased the names and images of Amun and his consort Mut, throughout Egypt.


This is the part which should interest us. Aside from Obama being the new "Messiah" and bringing forth a New Age religion for the Era of Aquarius, we must consider what religion Akhenaton declared war against: the cult of Amun today known as Lucifer. After he died there was as systematic effort to erase him from the history of Egypt. His monuments were demolished, his name erased, his statues smashed. Worship of Aten died out immediately upon his death as the priests of Amun rose to their former power.


His officials were buried in the Northern Tombs of Amarna. Akhenaton's rock-cut tomb carved in a valley of Amarna is said to have never been used. No tomb in Thebes contains his name so we cannot know where he was buried. Does somebody else have a record of this, dating back to the Amon priests who erased all traces of his existence?


The art of Amarna produced one of the most realistic statues known, the bust of Nefertiti. It is in striking contrast that we find Akhenaton portrayed with stick-like arms and legs, a bulbous abdomen, pointed face and misshapen head rendering a deformed and unnatural shape. This is the only period in Egyptian antiquity where such unusual representations were used. Was this an early form of disinformation, to repel future followers from ever again rejecting the cult of Amun in favor of the cult of Aten? Did the high priests, who systematically defaced and erased any genuine traces of Akhenaton, also falsify his image using caricature to grotesquely represent the Pharaoh who cast them down?


Inspecting the scenes in the tombs of Amarna, they are startlingly different than earlier tomb decorations and they feature Akhenaton and his wife worshiping the sun disk Aten (shown with rays ending in hands) and pictures of daily life. Most of the decorations are seriously defaced. No pictures have survived showing the pharaoh, that were not chipped away. Statues of the pharaoh in Egyptian Museums show an elongated feminized figure which is almost grotesque.


Here the Pharaoh is shown incarnating the God Amun, protected by the Amun cult divinity Golden Vulture Nebket with at his side Wadjet the Cobra, shown with an unusual skin color not found in nature, Blue.


Amun with Wadjet the Snake to our left and Nebket the Vulture to our right



This may explain the reference to nobility bloodlines as Blue Bloods, showing a continuity of Bloodline families dating back to ancient Egypt as is proclaimed by the Queen of England. It also explains the obsession with certain genetic encodings where this genetic information was purposely blended with human genes to produce engineered hybrid entities. These entities we call Royalty, due to their nefarious and unmerciful rule over us over the millenia, are ancient genetically engineered Satan possessed transports for invading entities from another dimension.


King Tut's insignia: All Seeing Eye of Horus with Nebket and Wadjet



This also helps explain why we would find the same symbols such as the All Seeing Eye of Horus atop the Illuminati Pyramid on United States Dollar currency, in reference to an uninterrupted underground cult of the Ruling Elite venerating not our official deities but the God Amon, through satanist rituals as in times immemorial.


All Seeing Eye of Horus atop Egyptian Pyramid on the One Dollar Bill



When we see on this same currency the statement In God We Trust we must step back and consider what God they are referring to: it is the God Amon also known as the Snake, Satan or Lucifer. That better explains why Time magazine, created by the Luciferian Illuminati, would show one of their modern times High Priests on the cover promoting their progress in the Garden.


Billy Graham showing off Satan's Work



We find the god Amun represented in ancient Egypt as having a human body with a Ram's head.


Amun in Egyptian times



In modern days we can see Amun represented as Bafomet. He is the current Masonic God, with Amun's goat head, Nebket's Vulture wings and the Snake Wadjet wrapped around his phalic sceptre. Is it any surprise that those who venerate Snakes and Vultures have bad intentions towards humanity? Through the hijacking of Freemasonry by the Illuminati, it has become an extension of the ancient Egyptian secret Brotherhood of the Snake.


Masonic Bafomet we call The Devil



The Illuminati bloodlines are a sect organized in Devil Worship since the dawn of ages. We can hold the hope that Obama, if indeed he is the Clone of Akhenaton, will oppose this Evil domination of our world by demonic entities from another dimension using Amun worship to possess our bodies and destroy our souls.


It is a matter of survival for the human species, soon to be exterminated in its quasi entirety, and replaced by a cloned population serving as host bodies for a demonic invasion... from Hell in the 5th Dimension. Remember, we have been warned by their High Priest.


Hell is in the 5th Dimension


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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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UPDATE ON POTENTIAL ILLUMINATI MASONIC THREAT


Here is a link to the first manifestation of what might be a threat due to investigation and disclosure of the Clone Conspiracy.


First posting about Illuminati Threat


Those 3 Luciferian Illuminati Pyramids including one bearing the Mark of the Beast, Satan as 666, were painted on my building Friday November 20th, 2009. Various authorities have been so informed for investigative purposes should this be required. The markings were not erased to server for forensic purposes should the occasion arise.


Exactly on week later, on Friday November 27th each Pyramid was marked off in a methodical manner. Here are photos should these be of use to anyone confronted with such practices.


Marking to left of entrance door



Close up of left pyramid marking



Marking to right of entrance door



Close up of left pyramid marking



Marking on front of building



Close up of front pyramid marking



This could be a signal conveyed between isolated groups within these satanic cults, using the signs to convey to one another location information and the second group or party signaling that they have received that part of the message or instructions.


If this is indeed a threat, then we are too close to the Truth for comfort and they are considering measures ranging from scare tactics to physical attack to prevent further investigation into these matters or disclosure.


For this reason, it is important that each of you download individually each page of this thread to your computers, and communicate widely what happened should something occur preventing me from returning to post here as usual, with content rich revelations about the Clone Conspiracy.


Thanks for your help which can prevent their use of such measures, which by the way don't particularly appeal to me, and which can only further strengthen our struggle against those who oppress the innocent and enslave the gentle.


Hopefully NOT signing off...


Getsmart



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Another cloned member of the Soviet Politburo circled in red


Tom Ridge and Soviet Politburo member



Satanic Soviet Clone ?



Info about Satanic hand signs


Here is also another member of the Soviet Politburo who looks like a shaker and mover of American politics.


Soviet Politburo member circled in red


We can then go on to compare this image to a well known American public figure.


Pat Robertson and Soviet Politburo member



Here is Pat Robertson in his bid for the nomination as Republican candidate for the Presidency of the United States.


Pat Robertson in drive to become President of the USA



Pat Robertson's biography


He went on to become a Political Pundit and a Satanic High Priest as can be seen here in his preferred pose with the Luciferian "Devil's Claw" gesture.


Pat Robertson Masonic Luciferian High Priest



We can see him again here letting his demonic friends know he's up to no good.


Pat Buchanan summoning Satan's help



Let us take another distracted glance at the official photograph of the members of the Soviet Politburo to see if any remind us of anyone we know. There might be something to be said for stretching our comparison technique to include possible recorded variants between multiple clones. Sometimes they come out practically identical, and other times there are slight differences in nose cartilage, ear cartilage and eye placement within the sockets. However bone structure, jaw lines, general proportions, head shape, forehead arches, nose implantation, mouth size and position will not change from one clone to the next.


Using this wider range of inspection criteria we can note a few more potential clones than found before. For one let us take a glance here and see who is circled.


Similar facial structure observing detail changes circled in red


Hubert Humphrey and Soviet Politburo member



We can wonder if a Vice-President of the United States during 4 years wasn't a Soviet Clone implanted smack in the heart of the American Executive Branch. Here we see Hubert Horatio Humphrey hanging out in the Oval Office with his President Lyndon Baines Johnson.


HHH with LBJ in the All Seeing Eye-shaped office



With a middle name Horatio, inspired by the Roman orator Horatio, Hubert Humphrey would have well understood the Latin saying "Qui bono" which means that if a crime is committed, look toward those who benefit. We will take note that this possible agent for a foreign power, be it Soviet or Satanic and most likely both, benefited from the assassination of John F. Kennedy, becoming the Vice-President of the United States only a few weeks later. In 1968, Humphrey was the Democratic Party's candidate for President, but he was defeated narrowly by Richard M. Nixon. After that setback, the Satanic Soviet Clones had to wait until Jimmy Carter was elected to fill the top slot.


We can take a better example right there in the Soviet Politburo Clone Reservoir to study how there can be slight differences between clones.


Soviet Politburo with a very unexpected member circled in red


We will note several striking differences off the bat. The first is that Cary Grant has a cleft chin. This is in the cartilage on the chin's surface, and not in the underlying bone.


Cary Grand and Soviet Politburo member



He also has different ears. Their inner shapes are close to identical, but the lobes are not. Finally, Cary Grant has a somewhat shorter nose than his Soviet counterpart and his hairline is slightly different.


Archie Leech better known as Cary Grant



In realizing that he was a Clone, it is interesting to note that Cary Grant stated the following, which sounds very familiar to those with experience in Mind Control experimentation and the identity issues which arise thereafter.


"I have spent the greater part of my life fluctuating between Archie Leach and Cary Grant, unsure of each, suspecting each."


His friends often spoke of his feeling ill at ease, not knowing how to act, being out of place most of the time. It appears that he sensed something was not right, without being able to pin it down. He was best friends with Grace Kelly become Princess Grace of Monaco who met with a tragic unsolved death with the brakes of her Rover saloon sabotaged on a mountain corniche above Monte Carlo.


Finding an actor among the clones tells us something of the motivation of those cloning. After all, it is unlikely that anyone in power circles would destine one clone to the Politburo and the other to become a Hollywood Star... unless they wanted to spy on that industry. It is more likely that the Politburo members themselves are also all Clones but don't know it. A separate power, as foreign to the Soviet Union as it is to the United States of America, has engaged in a massive Cloning Campaign producing Political, Religious and Cultural leaders.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Getsmart, I'm sorry to hear that you're being threatened like that. Those new marks kind of remind me of the X's Freeman was talking about towards the beginning of that presentation on Obama cloning...

Anyway, about the blue-skins, according to Anna Hayes, they are a specific race of beings.




The blue-skinned Zephelium are the administrators caste of the Zeta, governing all lower-rank Zeta castes.

Keylontic Dictionary 3
(Voyagers I – Page 8)
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


US politicians/Soviet politician counterparts makes sense. If the Illuminati bankers are controlling both sides, why not have counter-part puppet twins? That seems somehow logical...

Also, Hollywood & the entertainment industry have been infiltrated. TV & movies are powerful propaganda tools. Hitler recognized their value right away:

Adolf Hitler 'planned propaganda cable TV'
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Hitler planned 'Big Brother' style television to broadcast Nazi propaganda
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Entertainment industry & mass manipulation
plasticmacca.blogspot.com...


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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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Who is the 'Himmler' in the bottom left of the Politburo pics?

...and what about the 'Mussolini' in the bottom right?

0.o

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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by aorAki
Who is the 'Himmler' in the bottom left of the Politburo pics?

...and what about the 'Mussolini' in the bottom right?

0.o



Hi aorAki,


You don't come often, but it sure makes a difference when you do.



Here is the Politburo group photo with the member in question circled for others here who may not detect him right off the bat.


Soviet Politburo with Nazi Clone circled in red


Copying that photo and using just about the first photo that came up during a Google image search, here is a comparison of him with Himmler.


Heinrich Himmler and Soviet Politburo member



Next, I will do a comparison with Dick Cheney who is also a clone of Heinrich Himmler. Maybe people will start believing me now with this rather unusual extra piece of evidence you discovered.


Dick Cheney and Soviet Politburo member



You may try as you may, but between a single teenage photo (real?) and only 3 photos from the 1970s all that can be found on the Internet for this highly public figure other than a picture with Ford where he had a smirk photo-shopped on his lower face. This photo was only pivoted to make it vertical and enlarged to the appropriate size for comparison. Remember, the angle of the shot, the distance of the photographer and the camera lens makes for a slightly different head shape.


Dick Cheney with Jim Baker and Gerald Ford



To help other locate the second member of the Politburo you mentioned, here he is circled in red.


Soviet Politburo with member circled in red


Benito Mussolini and Soviet Politburo member



I wonder where they placed the other Mussolini clone(s). Also, this gives pause to wonder if Himmler and Mussolini were themselves originals, or earlier clones ?


Thanks aorAki!


Getsmart



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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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Dr Peter Beter says something in his Audio Letter 45 which might help explain what is up with the Soviet / American Clones.



I have described how the atheistic Bolsheviks who used to run Russia have recently been overthrown. This final overthrow is the culmination of six decades of determined effort by a tough, tightly-knit band of Russian Christians.

When the final phase of undisguised overthrow began two to three years ago, it was the Rothschilds--not the Rockefellers--who learned about it first. For 60 years the Rockefellers had been secret allies of the old Bolsheviks in Russia. But the Rockefellers were sadly mistaken in their belief that they actually controlled the Bolsheviks.

Instead, it was always the Rothschilds who secretly controlled the Bolsheviks in Russia--and who now control them here in the United States. In the past, the interests of the Rockefellers and Rothschilds always coincided well enough that this distinction did not really matter; but after the Battle of the Harvest Moon, which I made public in Audio Letter No. 26, everything changed.

Recently I explained the fatal mistake which the four Rockefeller brothers made in their panic following the Battle of the Harvest Moon. That mistake was to open America's doors to the old-line Bolsheviks, who are being expelled from Russia now.

It was a suicidal act for the Rockefellers because their own Corporate Socialist empire could not hope to coexist with those Satanic State Socialists--the Bolsheviks. But the Rockefellers accepted the recommendations of certain advisers to do so--and those advisers, my friends, were Rothschild agents!

During the past several months a Bolshevik coup d'etat has taken the lives of all four of the Rockefeller brothers, as I have made public in my tapes. The Rothschild interests of today are making a desperate bid to regain their former status as the world's No. 1 power group, and they are doing it through their own forces of Bolshevism...

The Bolsheviks, doing the bidding of the Rothschilds, are working fast; and yet in recent days the situation has become much more complicated than before. The struggle for control of America has now mushroomed into a secret intelligence war, involving not one but several major intelligence agencies of the world.

Where it is all leading is by no means clear right now. All I can do at this point is to report the facts to you and urge you to keep your eyes open. At the present time, for example, the Bolsheviks are planning to ignite a Middle East crisis around mid May. The Pope's revolution was also planned for May when I first made the plan public in Audio Letter No. 42, but that has now been pushed back to June.

But these and other plans have been thrown into question by recent eruption of intelligence warfare by means of "doubles", look-alikes, and impostors.

...My friends, strange things are going on and you should prepare yourself for big surprises in the days ahead. Besides the clandestine services of the United States and the Rothschild interests, there are at least three other factions secretly busy here now. These are the Intelligence Agencies of Russia, Great Britain, and Israel.

...As I detailed last September in Audio Letter No. 38, the rulers of Russia do plan to wipe BOLSHEVISM off the face of the earth. Even so, it's now clear that if they find a way to do it without resorting to full-scale war, they will try to do it; but the problem is that our own rulers who are now the Bolsheviks are making war increasingly unavoidable. First, the Bolsheviks want to bring us all under their own TOTAL DICTATORSHIP. Then they will be able to mold America into a much more efficient war machine than it is now; and under the conditions of Bolshevik dictatorship, you and I will be powerless to stop it.

Audio Letter # 45



Today his words, which seemed to suspend belief back then, ring true. We have substantial evidence in great quantities that so many of the above pictured American politicians are devout practicing Satanists.


It can even be construed that the fall of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the Soviet Union was programmed to "open the country" to an economic invasion moving the power back into the Bolshevik Satanists hands? It still remains to be verified is whether the fall of the Soviet Union brought Russia into the fold of the Satanists. or if somehow some souls survived unscathed.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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During the past several months a Bolshevik coup d'etat has taken the lives of all four of the Rockefeller brothers, as I have made public in my tapes.

I'm assuming they were replaced by doubles...

This Audiotape was from April 27, 1979. Dr. Beter said:


At the present time, for example, the Bolsheviks are planning to ignite a Middle East crisis around mid May. The Pope's revolution was also planned for May when I first made the plan public in Audio Letter No. 42, but that has now been pushed back to June.



The Iranian hostage crisis was a diplomatic crisis between Iran and the United States where 53 Americans were held hostage for 444 days from November 4, 1979 to January 20, 1981, after a group of Islamist students and militants took over the American embassy in support of the Iranian Revolution.[2]

en.wikipedia.org...



As he entered St. Peter's Square to address an audience on 13 May 1981, John Paul II was shot and critically wounded by Mehmet Ali Ağca,[5][11][108] a trained expert Turkish gunman who was a member of the militant group Grey Wolves.[109]

en.wikipedia.org...


Some think that John Paul II did not actually survive this ordeal & was replaced w/ a clone. the account of the injuries does sound like recovery would be improbable:


The gunman used a Browning 9-mm semiautomatic pistol, striking him in the belly and perforating his colon and small intestine multiple times.[4] John Paul II was rushed into the Vatican complex and then to the Gemelli Hospital. En route to the hospital, he lost consciousness. Despite the fact that the bullets missed his mesenteric artery and abdominal aorta, he lost nearly three-quarters of his blood and neared exsanguination.

en.wikipedia.org...



4. First I shall speak about Pope John Paul. The Pope so beloved and respected by many throughout your world was cloned several years ago when it became clear to the dark souls that he was a liability. Seeing that he was determined to hinder their aim of retaining their power over religious believers, they ended the physical life of the light being John Paul. Since his soul elected not to enter the clone, he transitioned to Nirvana and has worked diligently to bring light to all souls on Earth.

5. In accordance with his soul contract and conscious desire, John Paul wanted to lift the people of the world above the confinements of the church dogma that was controlling them through deceit, and that did not serve the purpose of the dark souls who were bent on maintaining the status quo. Consider: What single influence during the past two millennia has been more divisive and has wielded more control over lives than religion, especially the Roman Catholic Church with its strategically established infallibility of its highest authority, the Pope? Although the clones that have been carrying on in the name of the Pope have publicly shown his gentleness, humility and loving spirit, it was to beguile, not to show the way to true spiritual growth. None of the reforms John Paul intended have come to pass. At the time of the downloading of his intelligence, knowledge, and experiential memories into the first clone, the clone was programmed to suppress John Paul’s divine inspiration to allow ancient records hidden in the Vatican to come forth and to share with the world's poor the vast wealth amassed by the church.

Matthew Ward
www.matthewbooks.com...



S: Is Benedict a clone or will he be cloned like John Paul was?

5. MATTHEW: No, he’s not a clone, and it’s unlikely that this would be tried or even desired by those responsible for the cloning of John Paul. The purpose of clones is to take over in case of death by any means so that the person’s powerful influence won’t be interrupted. The new Pope hasn’t the charisma and the love of the masses as did his predecessor, and if he died tomorrow, the Illuminati within the Vatican very likely would be gleeful that this most logical successor to John Paul was quickly out of their way and they could get one of themselves into the papacy. They had insufficient support to manage this at the election where the prevailing choice was Ratzinger because of his closeness to John Paul.

Matthew Ward
www.matthewbooks.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 02:16 AM
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This is from notes taken on books by Anna Hayes. Doesn't elaborate on how this is done, unfortunately.


...Those who have managed to assemble part of their 5th DNA, but have been
hindered by birth defects, accidents, ilnesses and/or ET manipulation, will
have their conciousness moved to a clone body/replica...

groups.yahoo.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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Hi Faulcon,


I will attempt to reply to some of your earlier comments. But first here are some interesting comparisons.


I finally found a photo (the one taken with Gerald Ford and Jim Baker) where you can see Dick Cheney without a pasted on grimace. Maybe he does those smirks because otherwise everyone says "Wow, you really look like Himmler!"


Dick Cheney and Heinrich Himmler



Seeing Himmler reproduced in the USA and in the USSR and Mussolini duplicated in the Soviet Union made me start to wonder again about Adolf Hitler. So I looked around and found this composite picture where Hitler was represented in the various disguises he could use to escape attention.


Hitler's possible disguises



Taking only a short look at that picture and I realized that Hitler with a shaved head happens to look a lot like somebody almost as notorious.


Adolf Hitler and Aleister Crowley



There must have been a lot of competition between these two in the battle to become known as the most Evil man on Earth. The Anti-Christ against the Beast 666 makes it hard to call the winner. One killed multitudes using systematic genocide, the other killed his own children during sexual occult rituals. Mussolini didn't mind Hitler's madness but expelled Crowley for being too Evil to tolerate.


What is also worth noting is that Crowley is said to have chose Hitler among a number of candidates to lead the future Nazi movement. He was alleged to have taken the young Adolf under his wing from May 1912 until the spring of 1913 while Hitler was staying with his half-brother Alois and his wife in Liverpool. Conveniently their house was reported to have been destroyed by a V-2 bomb which makes Hitler quite the sharpshooter.


Aleister Crowley spoke fluent German with a perfect accent and worked officially as a British Army Intelligence Officer during World War I, frequently in enemy territory on German soil. After WWI he made numerous trips to Germany and met often with Adolf Hitler with whom he remained fast friends, reportedly further initiating him in occult practices.


What seems likely is that he may, at given times, impersonated Hitler with an appropriate disguise during certain key moments where his destiny may have hinged on a more mature and savvy man taking initiatives and swaying others. Hitler was vibrant as a public speaker, but quite recluse and introverted in other circumstances, showing signs of a fragmented multiple personality such as those created during mind control brainwashing or during occult possession ceremonies.


Regardless, few will contest that both were demonic, evil and blinking out of their minds. That either or both may have been clones is another matter to be examined further in time. It stands to reason that given the number of clones found among leaders in lesser positions, we can assume that there is a strong possibility that either of these were clones, and a greater one yet that they have since been cloned.



Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

I will jump to GW's defense... I just asked my father about this, who is a GW scholar. He says that GW prayed to God, but never asked for a particular outcome - just to be given strength. He said the story about praying to spirits in the way you described was "false," & was written 60 yrs after GW died.



I stand corrected and reassured. So many of our forefathers betrayed us, through their misplaced allegiance to Freemasonry and out of moral weakness, that George Washington got rounded up during the raid.



You mentioned that George Washington was NOT one of the Illuminati despite his role as Grand Master of Freemasonry. Apparently that obedience was not yet entirely perverted, as it has since been the case. He is quoted by Peter Beter in the same letter in which he announced the Victory of the Soviet Union over the United States in a secret war for military supremacy with weaponized Impulse beams located in space.



Washington left us with various warnings about pitfalls to be avoided, such as overgrown military establishments and foreign entanglements; but he went beyond that, to urge upon us a positive pattern of behavior that would be unique in the world. Concerning foreign affairs, he said: "Observe good faith and justice toward all nations, cultivate peace and harmony with all." Regarding the public trust of government officials, he said: "I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs that honesty is always the best policy"; and as the bedrock of his other convictions, Washington stated firmly: "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and
morality are indispensable supports."


Washington's ideals to guide America were a revolutionary departure from Machiavelli's rules of power which had been spelled out two centuries earlier. According to Machiavelli, the first rule of any ruler who wants to keep and increase his power must be to ignore all moral laws. False promises, continual deception and lies, betrayal of allies who have served their purpose, and regular deliberate wars are the keys to success--according to Machiavelli. For a century Washington's words generally prevailed over those of Machiavelli in America, and our nation grew and prospered as none before it. The main exception to this was the Civil War which was provoked partly by foreign intrigue into our affairs; and great European powers, primarily Britain and France, were preparing to intervene in our hour of strife and destroy our nation altogether.

Peter Beter's letter #26




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