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"Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case? (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBIHQ personnel had to be spies or moles, like Robert Hansen, who were actually working for Osama bin Ladin to have so undercut Minneapolis' effort.)"
Mr. Director, I hope my observations can be taken in a constructive vein. They are from the heart and intended to be completely apolitical. Hopefully, with our nation's security on the line, you and our nation's other elected and appointed officials can rise above the petty politics that often plague other discussions and do the right thing. You do have some good ideas for change in the FBI but I think you have also not been completely honest about some of the true reasons for the FBI's pre-September 11th failures. Until we come clean and deal with the root causes, the Department of Justice will continue to experience problems fighting terrorism and fighting crime in general.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Wow, so swampfox is actually admitting there is no real proof for any of those things that is available to the public.
Why are you always coming here to argue with people who just want closure when all you have to support your own opinions is blind faith in the government?
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SirPatrickHenry
Could you possibly be meaning this quote from Colleen Rowley?
"Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case? (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBIHQ personnel had to be spies or moles, like Robert Hansen, who were actually working for Osama bin Ladin to have so undercut Minneapolis' effort.)"
And if that is true, I am going to guess that maybe you didnt see this part of her letter...
Mr. Director, I hope my observations can be taken in a constructive vein. They are from the heart and intended to be completely apolitical. Hopefully, with our nation's security on the line, you and our nation's other elected and appointed officials can rise above the petty politics that often plague other discussions and do the right thing. You do have some good ideas for change in the FBI but I think you have also not been completely honest about some of the true reasons for the FBI's pre-September 11th failures. Until we come clean and deal with the root causes, the Department of Justice will continue to experience problems fighting terrorism and fighting crime in general.
www.time.com...
She doesnt think it was an intentional thing. She thinks it was a result of the institutional bureaucracy and cover my butt mentality that only solidified after the Ruby Ridge and Waco debacles. No one wants to go out on a limb or give approval for someone to do so in case it blows up in their faces. At which point they can count on Congressional hearings and losing their jobs....if not going to jail.
Wait a minute....someone on here has been pointing out for years that it was the restrictions placed on our law enforcement/military agencies during the 70s-90s that made it possible for terrorists to hurt us as badly as they did.....oh, yeah...that would be me.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SirPatrickHenry
Absolutely nothing there that states explosives or evidence of their use. So, if you believe the report confirms explosives...........
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SirPatrickHenry
Absolutely nothing there that states explosives or evidence of their use. So, if you believe the report confirms explosives...........
or with someone who can't get through a debate here without lying to attempt to further their demonstratively inarticulate point.
LOL...Dr. Jones.....do you really want to start a discussion on how many times his "reports' have been rejected? He makes some serious flaws in his research and in his conclusions.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Do they not teach reading comprehension anymore? I said that the evidence for his "parts" would originate with the FBI in most cases and that he doesnt accept the FBI as a source. Never once did I say there wasnt proof available to the public.
On the second part, how is pointing out reality arguing?
LOL...Dr. Jones.....do you really want to start a discussion on how many times his "reports' have been rejected? He makes some serious flaws in his research and in his conclusions.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SirPatrickHenry
Another witty reply from the snip.
Seriously, what is this miracle explosive that will explode and yet burn long enough to melt iron or lead?
Mod Note: Please Review Courtesy Is Mandatory
[Mod Edit - derogatory comment]
[edit on 27/10/2009 by Sauron]