African churches denounce children as 'witches'.

African churches denounce children as 'witches'.

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EKET, Nigeria - The 9-year-old boy lay on a bloodstained hospital sheet crawling with ants, staring blindly at the wall.

His family pastor had accused him of being a witch, and his father then tried to force acid down his throat as an exorcism. It spilled as he struggled, burning away his face and eyes. The emaciated boy barely had strength left to whisper the name of the church that had denounced him — Mount Zion Lighthouse.

A month later, he died.

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This is what happens with Evangelical Christanity - or any extremist theology takes root in an area where the populace is desperate, deprived and helpless. For those Christian members of this site - if your church has mission projects in Africa or you send money to African missions to support "sister" churches please make sure that you are not endorsing this blatant, irreverant chld abuse.



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There are witch hunts in the west too, just that the people are given or forced to take loads of tablets to destroy there brain. Thats why you do not hear about it in west.

The west has all these ideas too, just that doctors have the powers to destroy your brain if you show more than any little thinking skills other than the norm.

I tried starting a thread on this same subject last year but it didn't garner much of a response. I wasn't sure whether the apathy was due to it being 'Africa' - and who gives a # about Africa, right? - or whether it was because my ATS board reputation sours any thread I might start.

Anyway, Saving Africa's Witch Children.

[edit on 18-10-2009 by Merriman Weir]

Big problem and wiespread yet they managed only to safe a couple of hundred kids. It is clear that the only thing the pastors are interested in is money and power and they like to do satanic rituals offering kids. One should ask these so called pastors what the name of their god is.

As a mother this just makes me sick to my stomach. I just can't imagine letting anyone torture or kill my children because they've been accused of being witches, let alone doing the torturing and killing myself..

This part strikes me as particularly disturbing:

"Even churches who didn't use to 'find' child witches are being forced into it by the competition," said Itauma. "They are seen as spiritually powerful because they can detect witchcraft and the parents may even pay them money for an exorcism."

That's the biggest crock of male bovine fecal matter I've ever heard in my life.

To hell with political correctness. The people doing this are savage animals and should be put down.

This is obviously a human rights issue and I wonder what's being done about it. Of course, Africa has such a great record where Human Rights are concerned.

reply to post by Grumble

People have died from exorcisms here as well.

I am not making excuses...Palin's church preforms them for witches ya know....and if I recall correctly she was videotaped taking part in one.

I think the whole idea is just plain idiotic period.

You have to love that “good old time religion” in it's true form. Someday people may wake up a little farther and see it is all BS, but I doubt it.

Tru

Wow, acid is a little bit extreme, maybe the pastor wanted to make it look like it was burning in order to make it look like it was working.He's either an idiot/psychopath/sadist

Nigerians like a lot of Africans take religion serious! They are the first ones to be controlled by this bullsh*t! They need it for hope because they have none. But this is going way too far!! Just typical how this kind of control over a people can be abused. They are no better than satanists. And even then that's more bull!!

Reminds me somewhat of Sarah The Quitter's Pastor Muthee.

Palin's Churches and the New Apostolic Reformation

Watch out for those python spirits!!

For their part, the families are often extremely poor, and sometimes even relieved to have one less mouth to feed. Poverty, conflict and poor education lay the foundation for accusations, which are then triggered by the death of a relative, the loss of a job or the denunciation of a pastor on the make, said Martin Dawes, a spokesman for the United Nations Children's Fund.

So this widespread murder is being justified.

Originally posted by WickedStar


This is what happens with Evangelical Christanity - or any extremist theology takes root in an area where the populace is desperate, deprived and helpless. For those Christian members of this site - if your church has mission projects in Africa or you send money to African missions to support "sister" churches please make sure that you are not endorsing this blatant, irreverant chld abuse.



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just to recap, the issue here is Christianity, which has been at the forefront in Africa of trying to eradicate "traditional" barbaric approaches to women, children etc- and not the indigenous African culture with it's own views on things such as witchcraft, "traditional" religion/sorcery etc


Blimey, what sort of mental acrobatting do you engage in

Originally posted by andy1033
There are witch hunts in the west too, just that the people are given or forced to take loads of tablets to destroy there brain. Thats why you do not hear about it in west.

The west has all these ideas too, just that doctors have the powers to destroy your brain if you show more than any little thinking skills other than the norm.

If there is a choice over that and swallowing acid, give me a pill

Also, which western country allows doctors to prescribe pills because they believe someone is a witch?

Originally posted by grover
reply to post by Grumble

 

People have died from exorcisms here as well.

I am not making excuses...Palin's church preforms them for witches ya know....and if I recall correctly she was videotaped taking part in one.

I think the whole idea is just plain idiotic period.

why do people indulge in this pointless relativism- thats like me saying people die in the UK at around 80, so why should Zimbabwe's age expectation of less than 40 be discussed- it is hardly comparable ffs

reply to post by blueorder


Its not relativism since exorcism is a specifically Christian practice started by the Catholic church and now practiced in conservative protestant evangelic churches...

when you couple that with many African tribes already believing in witchcraft then you are setting up a potentially dangerous situation as we see in this article...

So no it is not relativism and your argument against it is nonsense.

Originally posted by grover
Its not relativism since exorcism is a specifically Christian practice started by the Catholic church and now practiced in conservative protestant evangelic churches...

It isn't "specifically" CHristian, it is seen and has been experienced in non Christian cultures- the "outing" of the demon within

when you couple that with many African tribes already believing in witchcraft then you are setting up a potentially dangerous situation as we see in this article...

So no it is not relativism and your argument against it is nonsense.

Well it is relativism as Palin's church didn't shove acid down a kid's bake

My argument against "what" exactly?

The issue here is not Christianity, but the local application of Christianity coupled with local indigenous barabarity- let us not treat African's like kids for crying out loud, that is soooooooo Victorian

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by WickedStar


This is what happens with Evangelical Christanity - or any extremist theology takes root in an area where the populace is desperate, deprived and helpless. For those Christian members of this site - if your church has mission projects in Africa or you send money to African missions to support "sister" churches please make sure that you are not endorsing this blatant, irreverant chld abuse.



www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

just to recap, the issue here is Christianity, which has been at the forefront in Africa of trying to eradicate "traditional" barbaric approaches to women, children etc- and not the indigenous African culture with it's own views on things such as witchcraft, "traditional" religion/sorcery etc

Blimey, what sort of mental acrobatting do you engage in

Just to recap - Christanity as a whole has a long, sad and sorded history of Barbarism towards women. But since we're talking about a acrobatics - I think you missed your dismount, friend. The fact is - this is what's happening inside Christian Africa. Non-indigenous religions always exhibit a trend towards incorporating the intrinsic values of the populations they are transplanted to - it is a natural evolution which fosters the growth of that religion - for better or worse. The only value call I made was that this particular practice was evil and that any Christians here who support African churches need to make sure they aren't passively or actively supporting these churches with their donations. Thanks for playing.