can humans create a better world just by VISUALIZING it?

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Oh know; now the whole world will think Australia is cruel to animals. Please don't blame us blame the secret.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
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yeah. well you gotta start somewhere, dont you?

i really dont know that its that impossible. people look after their own self interest at a basic level often and act out of self interest. the worst of us and even the best of us do this.

now if people became convinced that positive change was in their best self interest - they would DEMAND it. and it would HAPPEN.

i think positive change IS in everyone's self interest; but i just dont think people realise this or WHY this is. i think that's a barrier to be overcome; but it can be done.

again, im an optimist

Nothing wrong with the optimism at all my friend. I feel the the only way to achieve what you say is for a few knowledgeable and moral people to get a whole community to come to an agreement of a better world and within their locality implement the idea and cut themselves out of the current system. Once they have a successful new "Better World" system in place they could do a type of big brother TV programme (or some other mass promotion of some kind) and show the whole world what they are missing and how it can be achieved and the benefits etc etc etc only then would the vast majority of the world accept that it is possible. Once they accept that it is possible I see no reason why they would not choose or even want the "Better World" scenario.

My 2 cents anyway.

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can humans create a better world just by VISUALIZING it?

The answer is No. Because visualization is not enough.
If enough people turn from the direction that the rest of the world is heading....then it's possible to change the world.

Turning from the present direction requires a new path.
Many people see the path, but refuse to follow it.

The world's path is human greed, envy, pride, and a bloodlust for payback.

The opposing direction requires people to walk the path of humility, meekness, patience, and Love.

Of course we can, each thought sends out a signal, in turn opening a new dimension capable of materializing that thought. The potential is definitely there ...

Now sticking all of these REAL ideas, issues, happenings, truths, in Skunk Works and the Gray Area isn't a great way of introducing them to the unsuspecting masses. They all go to the forums they think they can find their 'proof' in and they get all lost in anger, resentment and arguments. That, in turn, echos out into the Universe and that is exactly what we get back here. We are reaping what we have collectively sown.

But, I still have faith that humanity can pull it off ... well, a percentage, at least!

I am absolutely sick and tired of these positive thinking threads. Get it, thats there are loads of people who run this world that use technology to make it rotten for us.

Get it.

Stop with all this positive thinking rubbish.

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Thank you for the great gift of laughter.

See, we Aussies are very irreverent. It sure lightens our load.

In terms of visualizing, technology exists to send full motion video images text directly to your mind. Computer assisted imagery manipulated in and by your mind. Yes a better world.

of course people can visualize things into physical manifestation. reality is subjective, it can be changed at will by the power of thought. the problem with this is that people dont think its real or possible so they dont even try. sad really, the human race has everything it needs inside its mind to be the species it wants to be. but because people are always getting in their own way with skepticism, they cant do it. you have to not only believe that you can affect change with the power of your mind, you have to KNOW that you can. I practise this type of energy focus on a daily basis. you can control every little last drop of energy around you if you know how...and everything is made up of energy...so really...you can control everything.

The answer to OP is "no". Human cannot change the world with their thoughts or beliefs. But, their thought have a local effect, i mean on their body. So one could heal/deteriorate his body depending of the thought/belief and its strenght.

That would be easy dont you think, to be able to change the world just by thinking? Dont dream people, that aint happen. But, some humans "could" do incredible things with their mind, only because they are predisposed to use their mind properly. So with some training it could be possible to change matter only with their thought but wouldnt be so simple that you could believe. Of course these predisposed people are not the ones, or something like that, just they had the chance to live at the right place, to get the right ideas, to see through the illusions, lies, conditioning and to have the required spirit to go beyond normal human way of thinking and viewing. That represents very few ppl in this world, maybe hundreds, and a lot dont know their potential.

Plus i would say these people wouldnt do things like save the world or preach for love coz these things are what it limits normal humans to go beyond. These are illusions. So wait for these people to change the world would be an error. They are beyond good or bad coz these are limits to them. So they could be the ones that run the world to chaos, that we call elite, nwo, unknowns.

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well its sad to me all the replies that are saying no.

because if you really believe that, then that is the reality you will manifest.

maybe if you tried you could manifest a more positive reality.


if EVERY person visualised a better world (and acted upon it) of course the world would change. so it is possible, as a matter of fact.

the thing that you believe is impossible, is that everyone would WANT to visualise a different world.

this is not impossible, its just a huge challenge, to make lots of people see the world differently.

so its a problem to be solved, as to how to go about inducing people to WANT to visualise a better world. this is a problem to be solved.

lots of people try to do this every day. try to change people's minds around them and get them to see the world differently. thats how i think people could start. baby steps. but at least you're contributing, hey? rather than sitting back and saying 'whats the point it cant be done'.

by saying 'whats the point it cant be done' you're actually proving my theory. you are VISUALIZING the outcome that it can't be done. Therefore the reality will manifest that it cant be done.

if you prefer to act rather than talk tahts cool. cuz if you're acting you've already visualised changing something.

if you'd rather sit back and watch tv because there's no point and we're all gonna die miserable, then you've already given up; you're already defeated; and yes, the reality you visualize may occur as a result of YOU and others like you. not assigning blame, just saying i think this visualising whether positive or negative is a powerful thing and leads to real results - and even if you dont believe in it, you are taking part in it.

Originally posted by andy1033
I am absolutely sick and tired of these positive thinking threads. Get it, thats there are loads of people who run this world that use technology to make it rotten for us.

Yeah, no debate there. i never said there werent.

but what do you choose to do about it?

you can do nothing, or you can try to do something. thats the choice everyone exercises, whether they realise it or not. im not even saying that you'll succeed - cuz if enough people dont change, it wont succeed - but im saying people should try. because the CHANCE exists, that if enough people DO try, change will occur. and i think that chance is worth fighting for. whats the alternative?

oh btw, the anastasia series of 'new age' type books i found really interesting. she says similar things about if she visualises something hapening it will happen. becuz of her really i now have a vegetable garden and a different outlook on plants and animals and our relationship with them- especially plants. i now go around watering and freaking out about my plants too...although not as much as i should really. they're worth the read i think, if only out of interest's sake.

available from amazon.com probly.

its funny but as i read her book its like i can FEEL the enormous power of her words. Its like there's magic in it or something. i always end up very emotional after reading bits of it.

Originally posted by rapunzel222
oh btw, the anastasia series of 'new age' type books i found really interesting. she says similar things about if she visualises something hapening it will happen. becuz of her really i now have a vegetable garden and a different outlook on plants and animals and our relationship with them- especially plants. i now go around watering and freaking out about my plants too...although not as much as i should really. they're worth the read i think, if only out of interest's sake.

available from amazon.com probly.

its funny but as i read her book its like i can FEEL the enormous power of her words. Its like there's magic in it or something. i always end up very emotional after reading bits of it.

Here's a quick 'thought experiment' for you. Go out and clear your garden. Harvest *everything*. Once that's done, till everything under. Now, go back inside, and wait. Every day, visualize your garden. Don't water it, don't weed it, don't fertilize it...don't even plant seeds in it. Just Visualize and Believe. Come back in six months and tell us how your garden came out. Next time you're hungry, Visualize a nice grilled-chicken sandwich. Believe in it. Feel free to report on how long it takes for you to stop feeling hungry.

Am I making fun of you, personally? Nope. I am, however, making fun of a ridiculous idea...it's a habit that has served me well for 47 years. Note that all of those authors who wrote all those books about Visualization didn't just Visualize a pile of money for themselves...they wrote books, and convinced people to give them coin of the realm for them. If you want results, you have to act.

Another example that proove normal humans cannot do # to the world with their minds: there are millions of humans that believe in santa, but is he real? no. Enough said..