Woman Disabled by this years flu shot /w video

They say this is rare but im still scared. What would be the # for rare, maybe 3 million people (1% percent of the US pop) seems rare to me, but still a lot of people.

This is sad and i feel very sorry for her, I hope she gets better

Oh my god, that is absolutely horrible. My thoughts are with her.... what a nightmarish turn her life has taken.

Thanks for posting this.

Holy crap ... thats just ... sad. i mean that poor girl her life is ruined...
it would seem that if 1pct of the population of the US is at risk for this it shouldn't be taken by anyone

reply to post by Blundo


It's certainly a tragedy, though we will need to wait for conclusive test results to see what did, in fact, cause her dystonia. I'm sure there is a chance it could be related to an extreme reaction to the flu, but it could also be related to a neurological event that went undetected or even exposure to heavy metals in some instances.

And to answer the poster above, it's not even as common as 1%. It's more uncommon than Guillain-Barre syndrome, which still only affects around 0.01-0.1% of those vaccinated for the flu, typically.

Think they'll report this on CNN MSNBC or FOX anytime soon?

reply to post by Pipebomb24875


it is FOX

reply to post by Blundo
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After seeing this who would'nt just rather have the Flu for three or four days and be done with it.

No risk of side effects, just a few days of missed work.

reply to post by nthelight


I've seen someone in their mid-thirties die of complications from the flu. It's not as simple and weak a virus as you would think. It can have devastating and permanent effects on your pulmonary and renal systems.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


Heavy Metals? Like Mercury? Or is that not classified a 'heavy' metal. I would like to know where that particular lot was made.

reply to post by spirit_horse


Elemental mercury could contribute, sure, but if that were the cause, I would be very interested in where she came in contact with elemental mercury. The form used in some vaccinations, like the H1N1 vaccine (but not the season flu, which I think is the vaccine they reported she received) is methylmercury, a metabolite of thimerosal. Methylmercury is eliminated almost immediately by the renal system, rather than hanging around like lead and cadmium would. I would say that these two, lead and cadmium, are much more likely candidates, assuming her dystonia is even related to heavy metal pollutants. I was just throwing that out as a mentionable cause. It could just as easily by a tiny neurological event like small clot or even a meningeal infection.

This is indeed a sad thing, someone's life so badly blighted by a vaccine. I hope the Mayo Clinic is able to do something to help this poor woman.

While this report is tragic, it doesn't offer us much in the way of useful information. All medical treatments, without exception, carry risk. That risk can include illness, disability, and death. The flu vaccine is going to sicken, cripple, and kill some people this year, as it does every year. As aspirin does. As the flu itself does.

The issue is not whether the vaccine can cause injury or death. We already know it can and does. They all do, and they always have. The issue is whether the risks of the vaccine are outweighed by the risks of the flu. The question isn't whether to take a risk, but to decide which risk seems better.

Most of us hate to think like that. We'd rather believe that, "as long as I take the vaccine, I'm safe", or, "If I just let nature take its course and skip the vaccine, I'll be fine". Most of the time, we're right. But sometimes we're wrong, whichever choice we make. Sometimes, no matter how careful they are, no matter how much they considered their options, learned of all the risks, took all the proper precautions - sometimes people are still struck down.

You can be sure that similar tragedies with vaccines happened last year, and every year before that. They didn't make the news because they're rare and not particularly dramatic. This year, flu is in the news, as is a different type of vaccine (for H1N1, instead of just the seasonal flu). This year, people are wondering whether to take that vaccine. This year, vaccine-related tragedies are making the news. That doesn't mean they are any more dangerous this year than any other year, or that the vaccines are more dangerous than the flu itself. All it means is the news media are going for ratings. This year, flu sells. Next year, you probably won't hear a word about it in the news. Sic transit gloria mundi.

If you're worried about the flu and vaccines, take comfort in the fact that the vast majority of us will get through this flu season just fine, with nothing worse than a few days of misery at most.

I wonder if she got her $24.99 that she paid for the shot refunded?

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by Blundo

 

It's certainly a tragedy, though we will need to wait for conclusive test results to see what did, in fact, cause her dystonia. I'm sure there is a chance it could be related to an extreme reaction to the flu, but it could also be related to a neurological event that went undetected or even exposure to heavy metals in some instances.

And to answer the poster above, it's not even as common as 1%. It's more uncommon than Guillain-Barre syndrome, which still only affects around 0.01-0.1% of those vaccinated for the flu, typically.

While many cases of dystonia have no obvious cause, the disorder sometimes results from an underlying neurological problem, such as:

Traumatic brain injury
Stroke
Brain tumor
Oxygen deprivation
Infections, such as tuberculosis or encephalitis
Reactions to certain drugs
Heavy metal or carbon monoxide poisoning
www.mayoclinic.com...=causes

While many cases of dystonia have no obvious cause, the disorder sometimes results from an underlying neurological problem, such as:

Traumatic brain injury
Stroke
Brain tumor
Oxygen deprivation
Infections, such as tuberculosis or encephalitis
Reactions to certain drugs
Heavy metal or carbon monoxide poisoning

I think I got most of those when I mentioned heavy metal poisoning, neurological events (stroke, low O2 sat, tumor) or meningeal infection. If I did, in fact, miss something, thanks for posting it =) More info is always better.

I'm starting to get tired of the questions people are still asking: Should we get the vaccine?

If you want to get disabled, sick, or die, then just take it already.

If you really can't make up your mind with something that takes 2 seconds to think about, then you deserve everything that happens to you.

Do I feel sorry for her? Not really, I mean yes it's horrible that it happened to her, but there are MANY stupid people out there.

reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm


Yes, clearly the fact that less than one tenth of one percent of the people who get this vaccine have adverse effects is enough to disregard the mountains of epidemiologic data showing the benefit. Thank god we have people like you to sift through all this "peer-reviewed" and "double-blind" work and make decisions for us on a purely emotion, knee-jerk reactionary level. I mean, sure, ALL medical procedures carry some risk, but isn't "some" too much? Why can't those evil doctors give us the risk-free treatments they've been holding out on for centuries, huh?

That was sarcasm, just in case it didn't come across.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


All statistics are made up to back up points that are bias.

I don't believe in statistics because they are inaccurate.

By less than 1% they really mean 100% who get the shot will die as far as I'm concerned.

Think about it, we are talking about Big Pharma here who will make BILLIONS in profit from selling these shots, so you can choose to follow false statistics or you can take your own life in your hands.

At the end of the day, stupid people make stupid decisions.

reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm


So, you're saying that when I was researching new beta-blockers for cholesterol, I "made up" my statistics that showed they were more effective than the placebo?

Are you also suggesting I "made up" my statistics and linkage ratios when I was working with autism and sleep disorder genetics?

Did I "make up" my statistics when I worked with neuro glia development and coc aine exposure?

Do you even understand how transparent the world of published science is? If even the tiniest bit of your published data is questionable, there are teams of competing labs out there who would LOVE to tear your work down and get credit for exposing the true nature of whatever they are studying. Competition breeds excellence, after all.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


As a simple short answer to your statements:

Yes, I think you made them up.

Don't get me started on published science. Majority of these "published documents" are fake as well.