Death. What is it?

It's hard, almost impossible, to imagine true death. I cannot fathom what it would be like to not exist, because it would be like nothing. Nothingness cannot be conceptualized in the mind. It is much easier to imagine infinity, eternity. I can see myself existing forever, even after death. Perhaps I have a soul that will live on. Perhaps I will be born again in the future as someone new.

My point is this. If death is really the end, then it is an awful concept. Can you think before you were born? No. There is no experience before you exist, so if you cease to exist, there will be no experience there, either. So what happens on a personal level when you die? You don't experience eternal blackness, because that would infer that you still exist or live. No, you would not experience anything. My only conclusion is that if there is no afterlife, then when you die, you re-experience your life forever. You cannot be in nothingness, so your death is your birth. Usually you cannot remember anything, but sometimes you might. This would be one explanation of Deja Vu. This is such a difficult idea to discuss, due to the extremely complex nature of the matter. Do you get what I'm trying to say, though? What are some of your thoughts on this subject?

reply to post by OrphenFire

I'm not sticking around.

I'm going home.

Man, i would really hate to think i have to live this life over and over again but, it sure would make you try harder to fix the things you did wrong in your life before that, and before that, and before that. But if you can possibly fix your life completely then what? Does your soul come back as something else or do you just keep living your fixed life over and over still?

reply to post by OrphenFire


death isnt even real. the sooner everyone realizes this the easier life will become. death is a lie just like everything else.


we are all god experiencing ourselves through ourselves on different levels of reality.

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Don't worry about it. You'll never know it happened. Death can only be experienced from the outside.

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I kind of got that from the OP. Anyway i did watch a show on the science channel a while back once(cant remember what it was called right off hand) and it said that humans are not programmed to die, I'll have to search for some more info about it and post it when i have more time...

We are all God and God is all of us...


PEACE!!!

[edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus]

i believe that we are all souls on a human journey personally, i do not believe death is the end. what happens after that, your wildest of dreams

-considers-

Last night I laid down because my body was sleepy. I closed my eyes and for awhile my mind played games the closer to sleep I became...

then the next thing I knew, my alarm was going off.

Death could be like this...you fall down because your body is done for whatever reason...you edge closer and closer to death, your mind goes into overdrive, your mind is also flooded with chemicals so you feel no pain, your body becomes oxygen deprived so you feel euphoric, like a dreamstate you actually feel that the dreamstate is real and enhanced with euphoria...then snap...thats it

the question is, will an alarm go off to wake you up, or is that last moment truely your last moment, period...and that is a area for science, philosophy, and spirituality.

What is death? its the end to the body you inhabit...the question is, is the body you inhabit all you are..those whom without a doubt know the answer to this here on earth arent saying anything (being dead and all)

Hmmm... I have an example.
Ever had those nights when you did not dream at all, and woke up immediately after going to sleep?
I imagine death to be somtehing like a dreamless sleep, but longer and without the waking up part.

Death is merely the pupal state of humans. Think of us right now as caterpillars. We move around the earth knowing that there is something after this life, most of us not completely sure what it is. Death for a human is like when that caterpillar enters the pupal stage and "sleeps" for a while in it's cocoon. We also "go to sleep" for a while, unaware of anything. Eventually, the former caterpillar emerges from it's cocoon as a completely new creature freed from the confines of "walking the earth". The same can be said for humans. We will awaken from our "death" as a new being without having the confines and limitations of our fragile human shell of flesh.

Death for some will be like being born again with memory of your past life IN THE REALM OF LIGHT AND ETERNAL LIFE WHAT YOU SO MUCH SEEK IN NANOTECHNOLOGY. For others it is a rebirth in the realm of NATAS where your SECOND DEATH AWAITES. It basically depends on the positive and negative energy 1 accumulates why going thru your orientation period on EARTH.


[edit on 10/14/09 by Ophiuchus 13]

To be honest, i think death is nothing. When we 'die' our body stops working, our brain stops working, we sense nothing, we feel nothing.

'Worm Food' is the appropriate words for it.

I want there to be something more 'after' death, but i just don't think there will be.

I'm not religious, and to me there will be no 'heaven' or 'hell, i don't think i'll be re-born, 'reincarnated' if you will.

I'd love to think i might wake up as a baby and re-live my life, i'd love to think that i'll die, be re-born as someone else and meet my soul mate over and over again throughout each life.

But i just don't think it'll happen.

We could sit and argue all day about this, i think. None of us will ever know, until we die. Then it's too late.

Thanks for all of the replies. I am ever exploring the theories and truths surrounding life and death. A couple of your ideas are derivative of Biblical teachings. I am not saying that I do not believe there is an afterlife, though. I think there is possibly something else to us (souls), but nobody alive knows for sure. I don't trust NDE's because they are brought on by a flow of chemicals and hormones that can cause hallucinations. Hallucinations are not real. Then again... what is real??

reply to post by Lister87


You have a similar idea as me. But I'm saying, if you die and nothing happens, you can't experience nothingness. You will not be able to exist there.

I was unconscious for a whole night one time (don't ask). When I woke up the next morning, I had no idea what had happened. I could have been dead for all I know. The strange thing is though, I didn't feel like I lost consciousness and then immediately woke up. I could feel that a length of time had passed, yet my brain had no thoughts during that time. I had no recollection of anything. If I had never woke up, I think that would have been death. An eternal, peaceful sleep. Kinda nice, really.

Death is not the beginning of a new cycle, Death is the ending of a cycle called living. I think we as humans think were special thats why we create the ideas that my soul will live on forever, perhaps ill be born again in the future, or we are a coccon that is asleep and will blossum into a new creature. Im sorry to have to tell you this folks but you only have one life. When you die thats it end of story. Nothingness, it wont be black or whatever you imagine because you cant imagine anything you have no brain activity and your body is shut down. DEAD. Just take it like a man.

Originally posted by OrphenFire
reply to post by Lister87

 

You have a similar idea as me. But I'm saying, if you die and nothing happens, you can't experience nothingness. You will not be able to exist there.

I was unconscious for a whole night one time (don't ask). When I woke up the next morning, I had no idea what had happened. I could have been dead for all I know. The strange thing is though, I didn't feel like I lost consciousness and then immediately woke up. I could feel that a length of time had passed, yet my brain had no thoughts during that time. I had no recollection of anything. If I had never woke up, I think that would have been death. An eternal, peaceful sleep. Kinda nice, really.

I've had similar thoughts with the 'nothingness'.

Sit now, clear your mind and try to think of this as you read it:



There is NOTHING. Forever. No earth, no humans, no planets, galaxies or Universe.

Just nothing. FOREVER.

My brain can't compute that, to me, there cannot be nothing forever.. as you've said.

But, i think when it comes to death, there might be nothing forever, as far as our brain sensing the universe goes.

If we pull a USB out, that USB is 'dead'.

Although, right now, if we got a human being, that has lived say 20 years, and we cut evert sense to the brain, smell, sight, touch, hearing, they would feel nothing, see nothing, hear nothing and smell nothing - would they be dead? They wouldn't be able to hear you, feel you, smell you, see you.. but they'd be alive, living, their brain (apart from the senses) working. Thinking thoughts, with 20 years of knowledge in it..

Very odd one.

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I will take it like a man. As in i am me, a man with my own beliefs. So, i am taking it like a man in my own way. You go ahead and believe there is nothing after life. I refuse to have my beliefs polluted with negative thinking. I mean absolutely no offence by this just stating my beliefs.


PEACE!!!

Read the bible revelations 6:9 it mentions the aterlife possibilities friends

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Read the bible revelations 6:9 it mentions the aterlife possibilities friends

Sorry, but i consider the bible and religion to be rubbish, in my personal opinion it offers nothing.

reply to post by Lister87


Good thing it's just your personal opinion. You have probably never even read the bible. Even if you don't believe in god there are a lot of good insights inside. Besides, it was written a couple thousand years ago so whether you like it or not the bible provides a look into history as well.

I always thought of death as the end of something old and the start of something new.


[edit on 14-10-2009 by DaMod]