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Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
If someone tells you to jump off of a bridge are you going to do it?
[edit on 13/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
No, but there is plenty of evidence that muslims do act on this sort of thing when they are told to.
- suicide bombers
- Salmon Rushdie
- the Danish cartoon incident.
etc., etc.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
firstly i'm not muslim
but what's with all the sarcasm on "the religion of peace"
as if your religions are better
christianity, islam and judaism are all violent religions
time to wake up people
is christianity the religion of peace?
"Kill babylon"?
babylon = modern day iraq where 85K people died?
come on man
all abrahamic religions are one in the same
just like presidents, same person different face
This post is nothing but truisms.
The violence of Christianity happened many hundreds of years ago during the crusades (a response to muslim violence at that time) and the inquisition.
Been to different churches my whole life and never once heard ANYONE talk about killing babylon or anyone else for that matter.
[edit on 10/14/2009 by centurion1211]
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
If someone tells you to jump off of a bridge are you going to do it?
[edit on 13/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
No, but there is plenty of evidence that muslims do act on this sort of thing when they are told to.
- suicide bombers
- Salmon Rushdie
- the Danish cartoon incident.
etc., etc.
Suicide Bombers predate the Internet by decades.
The actual 'hard number' of suicide bombers is minute as far as an over all percentage of Muslims.
To date there have been fewer actual suicide bombers than there were Kamikazee Pilots who committed violent suicide for similar reasons during World War II.
Salmon Rushdie is still alive and Denmark is alive and well.
The reality is hate speech flows from every side of every conflict.
"Kill them all and let G-d sort them out" is a popular T-shirt in some circles.
Israelis who label all Palestinians as 'Animals' is fairly common.
Americans who feel collateral damage to innocent Mulsim men, women and children is acceptable because all Muslims are either potential terrorists or are legintimate terrorists is common too.
People who feel well if Muslims were decent people they would stop fellow Muslims from becoming suicide bombers is common too even though they feel no guilt or take any personal responsibility when an American Street Gang member engaged in the violent drug trade kills an innocent person in a drive by shooting.
The fact of the matter is I appreciate that Bloods wear Red and Crips wear blue because I can see that they are Bloods and Crips and to give them a wide and or cautious berth and eye when I stumble across one.
I appreciate free speech enables people to identify who they are and what they stand for whether I agree with what they stand for and who they are or not because it allows me the ability to make a determination about whether or not I will associate with someone or identify with someone.
I haven't studied the statistics but there are probably as many Western Christians, Jews and Hindus that proclaim all Muslims as evil and deserving of death as their are Muslims that feel all Jews/Christians or Hindus are evil and deserve death.
Religion breeds some very ugly thinking in all the various sects and denominations. It's as frightening as it is problematic in that all the carious sexts and denominations feel that G-d supports their prejudice and hatreds.
Israel does have a mounting public relations problem there is no doubt about it.
They don't participate honestly or fully in the International Treaties and Orginizations and often condemn and want to start wars with other nations often for just the imagined belief that those nations want to do the very things Israel has done that doesn't want dondemned for doing them but praised for doing them.
How Israel overcomes it's mounting public relations problems is by participating openly, honestly and fairly in the World Bodies and abiding by the very same rules it wants other nations to while Israel does not yet condemns those other nations and insist the World Bodies take action against those nations but not Israel for the same things.
Trying to stop free speech is not the way to overcome its public relations problems.
The fact of the matter is that if I was as disliked and disrespected as Israel is in many people's eyes the world over I would start looking to see if my own actions were responsible for that instead of simply trying to make it a crime for people not liking me.
In essence that is all Israel is trying to do, is to insist that they should be above the International Laws and Treaties and not be held to them, and that it should be illegal for anyone to voice an oppinion as to that dysfunctional approach towards the World Community.
The constant inflamatory press against other nations and people is in itself disengenuous, misleading and deflectionary on Israel's part.
The title of this thread is a classic example of how twisted the culture of hate is.
A responsible title would be 'New York Muslim Man has Website that calls on G-d to kill all the Jews".
Instead it's worded to be inflamatory and play on prejudices and fears making it seem like it's an organized Muslim initiative and plot and that New York was infiltrated by an organized group of Muslims to use it as a base for this campaign.
The reality is it's just a crazy New York Jew whose converted to Islam talking out of the side of his head that people who hate Muslims are trying to turn from a Molehill into a Mountain as a justification to curtail or outlaw free speech.
Why anyone would even give such rubbish thought is beyond me, it's just a stupid rant ny a stupid guy and the only people who are going to agree with it is people who already felt that way to begin with.
The Internet doesn't breed suicide bombers, bad politics on both sides breeds suicide bombers.
Originally posted by Majiq
If that isn't walking through life with blinders on I don't know what is. The violence perpetrated by Christianity began with the spread of the christ myth,
and continues to this very day.
Certainly it has eased a bit with the chruch losing the absolute control that it once had, but violence within Christianity is in no way contained to the crusades, and inquisition. To state such a thing is complete and utter nonsense.
and continues to this very day.
Where? When?
Certainly it has eased a bit with the chruch losing the absolute control that it once had, but violence within Christianity is in no way contained to the crusades, and inquisition. To state such a thing is complete and utter nonsense.
What is utter nonsense is going around pretending (out loud) that your opinions are somehow facts. Do some historical research and then we can talk.
Originally posted by sos37
This guy is saying because his text is a prayer, it's protected. Prayer or not, why is it that authorities can't do anything about this, again? To me, this goes beyond free speech and religion - this crap treads into the realm of inciting violent behavior and as such should be removed. I can't believe a judge hasn't made an emergency ruling on this yet.
www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 13-10-2009 by sos37]
Originally posted by centurion1211
The violence of Christianity happened many hundreds of years ago during the crusades (a response to muslim violence at that time) and the inquisition.
Been to different churches my whole life and never once heard ANYONE talk about killing babylon or anyone else for that matter.
Originally posted by really
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
My favorite thing about your posts is how in at least 1/2 of them you find a way to make it about Israel and Jews. Way to stay on target!
Originally posted by mrmonsoon
I bet if someone said acid should be thrown in the face of all muslims, something would be done.
Typical of the religion of love and peace.
Line three.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
[Knowing my own posting habits I would say the number is more like at 27%, knowing your posting habits I would say the number in your case is more like 100%.
Which is basically my point in some people’s minds it’s perfectly proper and wise to defend a certain nation and people 100% of the time and to never honestly question the merits of the accusations being defended against. To those very same people other people questioning 50% of the time in fair and intelligent and reflective ways is considered wrong 100% of the time!
[edit on 15/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
Originally posted by colec156
Prey or not, In the UK we have a law against incitement and that would fall under this law and he would be arrested. Ok after that he might only get his wrists slapped, but there is a law in place.
Originally posted by mattpryor
This guy is clearly an extremist and I doubt he represents the views of very many others.
Most people, regardless of their religion or cultural background, reject extremism and violence completely. The majority should not be judged on the words of a radical minority.