Moon crash produces much data, little drama

Moon crash produces much data, little drama

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A pair of NASA spacecraft smashed into the moon at twice the speed of a bullet, as part of a mission aimed at blasting up signs of water ice.

Pictures of the impact zone were beamed back live to Earth, but the video imagery did not show any signs of a flash.

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[edit on 10/9/2009 by JacKatMtn]

So what really happened up there anyone saw the live feed they had? was the "Bomb" they drop visible? I read a lot of threads on how it was suppose to make this huge crater and a bunch of dust would fly into the air and they would examine it to see if there was water. I don't know about you guys but im calling BS on NASA.

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[edit on 10/9/2009 by JacKatMtn]

It was a kinetic bomb.

There was never meant to be an explosion.

If there was an explosion, don't you think it would defeat the purpose of searching for water? As the heat would gasify any water or ice.

reply to post by Dermo


true, by the way...... I LOVE HOUSE!!!!!!!!

Think of it like dropping a heavy round Metal object onto 2 surfaces, one is a liquified "sandy" type of ground and the other is hardened sand. Obviously the liquified sand is going to absorb the impact and so any debris field is localised and doesnt go far. The hardened sand would kick up a lot of dust and create a larger debris cloud due to the expelled kinetic energy.

This is why NASA are excited, despite the lack of "plume", they werent intending to blow the Moon up, just to look for signs of water on the surface.

reply to post by ROBL240


wouldnt they had discovered this when they stuck the American Flag into the ground?

[edit on 9-10-2009 by ^anubis^]

If nasa was saying that the explosion should be viewed from earth telescopes ,and that DIDN'T happen,it's obvious something went wrong.
Why would they make the mission public if they were expecting a failure?
They could have hide it from public attention.
Nasa situation is not the best and the last thing they need is more bad reputation.
Peace


[edit on 9-10-2009 by upnorthtrip]

Sorry guys but I don't agree. The plume was important. They wouldn't have told everyone with 6 inch telescopes to watch if they didn't expect it. Something is very wrong here.

This reminds me of when Columbia blew up and even though we had pictures of it tearing apart in a ball of flame it was still hours before NASA actually admited that something had gone wrong.

The Apollo missions were Equatorial, it'd be like trying to find Water at the Desert, NASA has never explored the Polar regions of the Moon due to the lack of Sunlight and difficult means of getting manned spacecraft there, so its only recently with IR Spectrometers and other instruments that they've been able to properly gauge whats actually on and beneath the surface, especially in deep craters where Sunlight has never been cast.

I cant believe how many folks on here (especially on the 18 page thread about this) thought there was an actual bombing of the moon with explosives!! I mean do people bother to read news articles or just look at headlines??

There was never suppose to be an "explosion"!!!!

reply to post by princeofpeace


Yes there was! That's why I said two posts above yours that they would not have told everyone with 6 inch telescopes to watch otherwise.

That is why all the reporters keep asking why there was no visible plume.

No there was not any explosives but yes there was supposed to be an explosion.

It's ATS!
Why bother with facts or actual science!
I think the Reptilians sabatoged it!
The absolute ignorance of even basic understanding of science in these threads is both astounding and discouraging.
Go to school kids!

I know they've had budget cuts and the distance of the moon, but 40 years since the moon landings and they don't have a camera that can capture more than 2fps?

It was never meant to explode, it was just meant to impact and throw up a cloud of dust for the orbiter to analyze before it impacted.

It's like if you went to the beach with a small steel ball and threw it at the sand as hard as you can and looked at the sand that flew off of it.

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The point is that, that didn't happen there was no visible plume. Regolith was not ejected.

The title is :
No big flash from NASA's moon crash

Not "how come the Moon didn't blowed up and stuff?"

reply to post by fieryjaguarpaw


I would check the source info instead of second hand info.

www.nasa.gov...

Just saying.

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I just watched the press conference on NASA TV, I'm not sure how it could be anymore first hand

This is not what they expected at all. I don't think this thread was about there not being a bomb. It is about the results, that NASA were expecting, did not happen.

It was virtually 1/2 of the objectives of the whole mission...

Watch the plume of dust/debris, analyze how it reacts, search for water/ice/vapors, etc. Then the probe would hit and scope out the impact area..

No dust plume. Virtually a mission failure.

reply to post by fieryjaguarpaw


Failure is always an option. That's science for you. If they discover something great, if they fail, they learn through that failure.

Yes, they can learn from a failure.. after all this is how most discoveries in science are made.

However, the "dust plume" was 100% expected. They didn't just say "We're punching a rocket into the moon and we're gonna see what happens."

They said, "We're punching a rocket into the moon and we're going to analyze the +10km dust plume immediately after."

Plus the probe..

I'd wager a guess that the rocket didn't impact correctly, or it just slide right through the surface so fast that it just buried with no fuss. Maybe it entered a cavern..

Whatever happened, one of the main objectives never happened, so.. it's pretty much a failure, and I don't know what they can "discover by accident" at this point. Maybe by some miracle the probe hits a piece of rogue ice.