NASA "Moon Bombing" mission -- DISAPPEARS

Originally posted by Exuberant1
Buzz Aldrin works with Gravwave LLC who are developing High Frequency Gravity Wave communications technology, propulsion systems and surveillance technologies.

One way to generate HFGWs is to use x-ray laser pulses to stimulate piezoelectric crystals.

Now THAT'S interesting, very interesting - especially when you linked it up to the quote you pulled out of the David Barclay article.



IF Barclay is right about the Moon having a different time-line to Earth then NASA insiders etc are GOING to know all about it.


Perhaps this ties in with all the, did we - didn't we go to the Moon. All the suspiscions about images being faked and the difficulties of getting physical human bodies through the Van Allen radiation belts ??



I wonder how the High Frequency Gravity Wave research ties in with teleportation and wormhole space/time travel.


I've speculated for a while (especially when whistleblowers like Bob Dean tell us that space/time teleportation/wormholes have been used for DECADES)

speculated that - NASA might have got 'people' to the Moon via teleportation. And probably still do. (Perhaps circumventing the time-line difficulties at the same time? Somehow?)


But I diverge.....my mind is racing too fast to express it all properly, LOL.



IF the proposed time-line difference is right - then they (or some of them) must have known that the LCROSS hardware was going to disappear. That there would be NO plume. etc etc.



But proceeded anyway as a public relations exercise....like..."see how seriously we take the water on the Moon thing" "We're all in together, we are partners with the citizens" "You can all join in."

And took the risk that the whole thing wouldn't back-fire badly when
NO-ONE sees ANYTHING.

Or were doing a different experiment to the 'looking for water' one ?


YIKES - someone stop me - I'm going into meltdown - my brain's on over-load. LOL

Originally posted by sum-one
YIKES - someone stop me - I'm going into meltdown - my brain's on over-load. LOL

..... P A U S E ....... click.......

cool stuff.... thanks

hmmmmm......... brain over-load..... now what has that got to do with all this

Originally posted by Exuberant1
One way to generate HFGWs is to use x-ray laser pulses to stimulate piezoelectric crystals.

www.ortho.lsuhsc.edu...

www.ursi.org...

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...



edited to add........

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

[edit on 15/10/09 by mcrom901]

Please stop this time shift whatever. It's rubbish. OK, OK...IMVHO.

In a sense the moon along with everything else is time shifted relative to everything else anyway and presuming your USA astronauts actually went to the moon; they came back. No time shift there.

If there is/was/will be a timeshift then it's pretty stable given that the moon hasn't disappeared occasionally, flicked in and out of existance and does a pretty good job at keeping the tides ebbing and flowing regularly. So for said timeshift to suddenly chew up some spaceship leaves me with a sense of "barrel scraping" in the brain and at 37 pages this thread needs shot and put out of its misery.

I'll go along with greenie self defence lasers, or being a witness to a Nasa alibi for whatever they are up to, or the LHC being affected by it's own future self (and maybe eating the ship, who knows), but this moon time shift, temporal velocity off set thingy is just silly.

Ship gets fired at planetoid, ship vanishes. There's a lot of stuff to get through before we get to temporal shearing, which if it did happen, you wouldn't be able to see the moon at all.

Again..IMHO, but please stop. I want data (because we've no ****** pictures) and they keep saying they gathered lots of it, so where is it? It can't be that complicated.

reply to post by mcrom901


Thank you for the links, very interesting indeed. I've had personal experience with '___' and time (dimension) is the main ingredient for the experience. Can't help but to think we shifted time through the eyes of the observer!

reply to post by nomadros


Woah. The time-line thing really got to you didn't it?

IMVHO it's good, honest speculation. And could explain why the
LCROSS hardware 'disappeared'. See thread title.

It's bang on topic.

gravityc-idealism.blogspot.com...

Time lines do not correspond to linear durations of time, but correspond to simultaneous differentials in non-linear time field frequency acceleration (NTFFA). The past and future do not exist in terms of linear durations but do exist in terms of a simultaneous condition of the universe, whereby time lines take on a purposeful meaning. Therefore the concept of instantaneous transformation is not only a possibility but a fundamental aspect of the universe.

reply to post by sum-one



Oh yeah! If you look at the LHC thread about its future operations interfering with its current operations, then I'm cool with that because both (or more) LHC conditions are relative to the existing now for each condition and so you get a smearing on it's temporal line and an effect similar to something going very fast. Therefore, matter being "selfish" the LHC conditions are just one condition of a spatially very fast LHC as far as the LHC is concerned. Therefore cock up.

If the moon was operating on or behind a "difference" in time there would be 2 effects depending on whether the moon was temporally slower or faster. The smearing is still valid, but as the temporal speed is different from ours the following applies....
Slower, we'd perceive the moon as a field, but we wouldn't see it at all. Faster...we still wouldn't see it because it would be in our future, but we would be gravitationally attracted to it in a similar fashion to an electron being attracted to a proton.

Lashings of IMVHO as I don't have the Nobel prize to go with the above scribblings, but a man can dream!

I think I'll stick with the craft were destroyed by laser by beings unknown and the surface NIR flashes were the result of debri impacts.

It's all a bit quiet on the Nasa front isn't it?

Originally posted by nomadros
Therefore, matter being "selfish" the LHC conditions are just one condition of a spatially very fast LHC as far as the LHC is concerned.

dude.... you cracked me up big F time.....

the bulb went off...... now somebody is gettin pissed.... easy....

reply to post by mcrom901


Cheers mcrom.

When the over-load dissipates I'll be able to take all that in, LOL.

Had a quick skim through and it looks like great links/info.

I might have missed it - but has Jim Oberg been back to HIS thread to make any comments on what has been discussed????

JIM JIM.....JIM... are you there?

What have you got to say about the LCROSS mission/images now..?

Anything at all? C'mon. Don't be shy LOL.

they're joking right?

reply to post by bartolas


ONE WEEK later.



Fast workers, aren't they....?????

Perhaps Jim will come back now. NASA supporters must have been waiting for this AHEM 'evidence'.

i think this one is quite suitable for the situation.....

reply to post by sum-one


This picture have been approved by NASA *stamp*

reply to post by bartolas


It's a beauty eh?

Errrrrr NOT.

Here's my theory. Prompted by a comment made by mcrom somewhere else - cheers mate.

The reason for the delay in producing a 'plume-pic' I now think, was because the more-feeble-than- expected plume created a problem for NASA. They DID have an image of a small plume, but they could only display it on a GOOD quality image.


They didn't want to show the public that nop-notch image because of the things that might be seen in it. And it would be obvious that they had much much better pictures than they were letting us all see.


So - because of the increasing pressure to come up with a shot of the plume they created this ridiculous image and SCRIBBLED WHITE OVER THE BITS they wanted to keep hidden.


Look at the good quality of the tiny bits of the image that is still visible.


www.nasa.gov...

This spot it's a burn from magnifying glass, at nasa they have strong lighting in my opinion the point of this mission was ridiculous.

reply to post by sum-one


Hey sum-one,

Here is the image you are talking about:

*The image is from NASA, I uploaded it to imageshack so that you guys could see it in it's entirety.

And check this out - NASA has inverted the images of the impact area (the anomalous flashes are now in 'different' positions relative to this processed image):

Here is the orientation and view that we were presented with during the live event:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bc6790972908.jpg[/atsimg]

*The first flashes occurred in the marked area before any impact had taken place. NASA has not addressed these anomalous flashes.

[edit on 18-10-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by sum-one

 

And check this out - NASA has inverted the images of the impact area (the anomalous flashes are now in 'different' positions relative to this processed image):

wow..... just wow...... what do you expect from 'never any straight answers'

reply to post by mcrom901


I know...

It seems that they cannot help themselves.

So mcrom, since the nature of the flashes precludes the possibility that they are camera or transmission artifacts; what is your take on the anomalous flashes that the infrared view briefly enabled us to see?

Edit:
In case you (or anyone else) have not had the chance to see them, Here are the strange flashes I was referring to. I have also included a youtube video wherein they are addressed by fellow ATS member Ocker:




Here are some images of the flashes that we at Pegasus/ATS got the scoop on:

No flash:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6b54c76133d7.jpg[/atsimg]

Flash!:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3234b0285228.jpg[/atsimg]

No flash:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/fbfeffd25871.jpg[/atsimg]

Flash again!:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/24d8a123e2c3.jpg[/atsimg]

No flash:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f0a2410ad04c.jpg[/atsimg]

Flash Again!:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/14b843b992a2.jpg[/atsimg]


These images are cropped form a larger one, that is why the flashes from the top-left now appear in the center of the cropped images. Here is where they are from on the larger image (and where the flashes can be spotted in the video):

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bc6790972908.jpg[/atsimg]



Here is the video; The anomalous flashes occur at the very start - look at the top left :



The other flashes that occurred were also posted to ATS first - here they are (they were located towards nearer the center of the shot; see the above video):


This is what the Area looks like when there are no flashes...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/72b219cc43dd.jpg[/atsimg]

Let the flashing begin - start with a double-flash:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4d39f0462887.jpg[/atsimg]

Now a Single Flash:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e42b04440a83.jpg[/atsimg]

And another:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2585153d789a.jpg[/atsimg]

And yet another!:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8812f5625bca.jpg[/atsimg]

And another!:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/757876f9288a.jpg[/atsimg]

*As with the first series of flashes/pulses, this second series caused the view to be switched yet again - right after the flashes were noticed. And keep in mind that this view and this camera would have been the most ideal one to use in order to allow us to view the impact.... But then even more people would have noticed the strange happenings down on the lunar surface.


[edit on 18-10-2009 by Exuberant1]

reply to post by Exuberant1


cheers... thanks for all your great contributions.... i suppose its somehow connected to the "LTP" we are told...... then how about these....

reply to post by mcrom901



I have read through most of those blackbox transcripts. I am planning on starting my own thread on them.

The stuff in them is amazing. Many of John Lear's ideas about the moon are validated by those transcripts.

If you want to see over a couple dozen excerpts visit this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Or since I am basically the only one posting excerpts, you can view all of the excerpts I posted in that thread by clicking here:

Exuberant1's Apollo Black Box Excerpts on ATS



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