The Real Reason USA is bombing the Moon ~ A NEW Weapon!

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have all of you enthusiastic people lost the plot? a new weapon for the usa or anyone else that can destroy an entire city, is not a good thing.

Originally posted by Plasma applicator
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What do you mean? We all know its not a "bomb" but rather a kinetic weapon like the one I am discussing. This is a test for "Rods from God". I am sure of it.

BALONEY!!!!!!!!!

The LCROSS impactor has a mass of 2,200 kg and will impact the surface of the moon and 2500 m/s.

Now from high school physics you should know that Kinetic Energy = 0.5 x mass x velocity^2
So LCROSS will have a kinetic energy of 6.9 billion Joules. Sound's like a lot, right? Well that's about 0.01% of the energy of the first atomic bomb.
Not much of a weapons test.

Also, it's dumb to compare this to something that could be used on Earth. The impactor would disintegrate high in the Earth's atmosphere dozens of km above the surface. So what exactly would the US military be testing with this thing? The formula of kinetic energy?

[edit on 9-10-2009 by CanadianDream420]

As a test for a kinetic weapon system this impact would be utterly useless. You are dealing with a testsite you know next to nothing about (not even the density of the soil). You have a projectile that is nothing like the thing you would like to test. You cannot reach the speed the actual weapon would reach.

The only thing you can test with this setup is what would happen if we throw space-junk at the moon.

Oh and really...getting this exited about the development of yet another weapon that will indiscriminately kill anything in a few mile radius. Are you the same people that said WMD should be banned from the world, starting in Iraq?

Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
You are right. We should just add this weapon to our war machine and spend the billions of dollars in developing it ... without ever testing it out.

That makes much more sense than doing a test run on the moon.

Are you serious?

[edit on 8-10-2009 by Where2Hide2006]

And it absolutely has to be tested on the moon, I presume?

The rods of god weapon is an interesting idea.
But the kinetic energy will mostly just turn the thing into a bright incandescent fireball if it were to be used in earth's ATMOSPHERE.

It should work pretty well on the moon though, or as an anti satellite weapon way out in space.

But the atmosphere around earth protects us from very high velocity objects coming down from above, unless they are truly massive.

And getting something truly massive up there in the first place (against gravity) makes it a pretty inefficient weapon against ground targets.

Just realized.. when every astronomer of the world are looking at the moon, makes one wonder that anything else can happen other places in space and none will see it!

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
The rods of god weapon is an interesting idea.
But the kinetic energy will mostly just turn the thing into a bright incandescent fireball if it were to be used in earth's ATMOSPHERE.

Did you even read the links?

They would be coated in ceramic plates and shaped to survive reentry.

The brute force of 2 ton rods traveling over 36,000 feet per second and could be dropped on a target with as little as 15 minutes notice, makes them ideal for penetrating underground bunkers, and hardened nuclear missile silos. You know, things you might find in Iran.

More importantly, treaties with russia don't apply to hyper-velocity rods, though they strike with the force of a tactical nuke, they produce no radioactive (and far less political) fallout. The US Space Command says they plan to have this capability by 2025.

[edit on 9-10-2009 by Where2Hide2006]

Originally posted by Where2Hide2006
We all know its not a "bomb" but rather a kinetic weapon like the one I am discussing. This is a test for "Rods from God". I am sure of it.

No, we don't all "know" it's a kinetic weapon. You presume it is.

Some of us actually use a little common sense and reason - to me, it looks like what they say - they're 'impacting' the surface in order to determine the presence of water, etc.

As the others have already pointed out, the logistics and data from using a supposed "kinetic" weapon on the moon as a test is no way a means of guaging how it would behave on Earth.

Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

Originally posted by noonebutme

No, we don't all "know" it's a kinetic weapon. You presume it is.

I am sorry, you are 100% correct.

I guess people that dont do any research (you) wont know that they have already said that its not a bomb, but a 2 ton metal rod that will impact based. solely on kinetic energy.

I presume nothing.

I find it more interesting that all the sudden the US, asked for the world to disarm its NUKES....what a coincidence. Hey we dont have NUKES...we have weapons that do the SAME AS NUKES...but we said lets get rid of NUKES...
god...i feel ashamed to be in this country more and more

great post op, def. flagging and telling people about this!

Also, when we know that MANY leaders in the world are worshiping some ancient moon and sun religion with occult numbers, occult symbols and hidden messages - we must not forget that this is could be another "secret message" that only a few could understand..

You know 11, two towers.. on 11 / 9 ..

This could be hit big 0 with a 1 on 9 ? Who knows?

And if it is a bomb, the maybe have plans to detonate it later! Happy Sun day the 11, make the fireworks on moon ready!

And this could be a threat.. "oh yeah, now we are putting a bomb on your god, watch it live on tv, what you going to do about it? are you goin to let us sacrifice 111.000 people in IRAN or what?"

Originally posted by Annav
Just realized.. when every astronomer of the world are looking at the moon, makes one wonder that anything else can happen other places in space and none will see it!

The moon will only be visible to half the world when this happens and most astromers will not be looking at it

reply to post by Where2Hide2006


Yes, but that doesn't consitute a "weapon". You implied that it was a weapon that could be used for future endeavours and the Moon being a 'test' of it's practicality.

I disagree - I don't think it's a weapon. It's merely a tool for a scientific experiement, albeit a rather large and brute force tool.

But not a "weapon" in the conventional sense. Sure, it's a 'weapon' in that throw a baseball at someone's head very hard can be a weapon - but it's not meant to 'be' a weapon.

That's all I'm saying. I think you're just jumping a bit far with the weapon notion.

Thing is: there is nothing to test there.
The physics of it have been well understood since a kinetic kill apple failed to penetrate Sir Newtons skull. (+ a little aerodynamics)
Engineering? You need something that holds the rods in place when you are not above target, and releases them when you are. Thats it, hardly a challenge that needs a lot of testing before it can be met.
Ok, ok... i grant you a dry run or two with the release mechanism. But that is it.
Seriously: what would you think would need testing here?

Rods from god is very similar to the ICBMs we already have in principle. They both attempt at hitting a target with a warhead, however, terminal guidance would be required for a direct hit. This is reasonably similar to the 1970's vintage MGM-31 Pershing II, which has a 30 meter CEP (accuracy). If they wanted to develop the actual technology, then they would of used existing nuclear missiles (and the associated tests) to do so, not spent 100 million dollars on going to the moon with NASA.



As previously pointed out, it created a 20 meter diameter crater, not a 5 mile wide one. Some of these things have been pointed out thousands of times and yet people still repeat them. Also, if kinetic warheads were so powerful, um, why would they put nuclear weapons in ballistic missiles then?

Here's a video of LOSAT, which uses a kinetic warhead.



It traveled at a few times the speed of sound.

F=m*a
E=m*v

It's highschool level physics. Everybody knows about them. There is nothing to test.

E = (1/2)(m)(v)^2, not E=m*v.

[edit on 10/10/2009 by C0bzz]

I have another idea on why we bombed the moon.

Blast video - newteevee.com...

Phillip Corso a top Pentagon official says in his book " The Day After Roswell" that the Star Wars (SDI) system was put in place to fight hostile ET's and this sort of thing has been going on for years. Notice that Star Wars was a apt nickname for this system because in the movie that's what took place - one race using lasers to combat another races ships. It is a fact that we have atomic/nuclear powered satellites in orbit with heavy laser capabilities. A study of world history reveals the presence of aliens on earth and coming to earth for countless centuries now.

Ed Grimsley the fellow who has been watching and training people to watch UFO battles in the sky with night vision scopes firmly believes this space battle is taking place above our heads.

Space Battles in Earth Orbit -www.abovetopsecret.com...

History teaches that the USA dropped the bomb on Japan as a deterrent to try and end the war. So far as we know, we have never dropped THE bomb directly on the enemy as a tactical offensive weapon. ( it's semantics I know as it can be argued that is exactly what we did in Japan)

But let us suppose if this war above our heads is really taking place, the USA could have dropped this bomb for the same reasons - to get the aliens they were fighting to back down.

Now I can think of several reasons why this is faulty. We announced out intention to drop this bomb long before we did it. - Wouldn't the Aliens have been prepared for it and countered it? This seems likely but as we know we are not told the whole truth about this war in orbit. There may be other parts of this puzzle we are missing. Perhaps it was to destroy some other type of precious installation of the alien enemy. Perhaps it was to kill the hive queen. That sounds like Stargate SG1.

The point is if this war is really taking place you can bet the moon bombing had something to do with it in some way.

NASA is supposed to release new video of the 'blast' once they have surveyed the area. Perhaps before and after comparisons will enlighten the matter further.

OK, so who is still wondering why they hate the USA?

A system like "Rods from God" would be disabled pretty easily. The PRC demonstrated their ability to shoot down satellites in 2007. The US has the ASM-135, Canada had the HARP gun, and I'm sure the Russians have something up their sleeve for such an eventuality. And, as someone else mentioned, the rods would disintegrate on entry if not made of tungsten.