Whats your thoughts about OBAMA?

I really wanted OBAMA to be president and thats who I voted for and I really thought he was going to make a great change for this country for the better, not make it worse with socialism.

But I was thinking maybe OBAMA might be doing this becuase he knows something we don't and he is only trying to protect his country I really wanna believe that but I have just seen so much I just can't tell what he is trying to do but he has me really confused.

I really wanna believe Obama is a good man he looks like a real leader that really can make a good change and he gives great speeches but he seems to lack in what this country really needs why does he not listen to the people.

We really need some kind of online voting system for all laws and bills that every United States citizens to vote on by the people and not the goverment we should have say over everything, as we have seen congress can not vote on anything the right way, this is rediculuas.


www.youtube.com...

but my question what do you think he is really doing?

I think Obama had NO CLUE what being President actually entailed before he got elected. I think he meant well as misguided as his policies are. I get the impression he thought being President was going to be this well oiled, ego trip where everyone would do what he says and he would be able to get all this legislation passed and wield all this influence. It's almost as if he bit off more than he could chew. In reality he was a nobody Senator and he'll go down in history as a one hit wonder do nothing President. Basically my opinion is he's an empty suit and will do nothing to halt what's happening in this country and unfortunately stands to make things much worse. The REAL change will potentially come in 2012. Even left leaning democrats are disappointed with Obama and he's barely been in Office a year. But in his defense I think each and every President going forward is going to have more and more difficulty really making a difference in this country. There is just too much power in too few hands and the President is really just a mouthpiece puppet with no real power. The CIA, NSA, bankers, FED, are the deep state that really control the USA and in many aspects the rest of the world.

reply to post by slipknotrules2009


I think that he, like any and every politician that gets to high places, is owned by certain corporations and that's who he's working for.

He's not the antichrist, a socialist, or any other name idiots want to call him, but he's no different than any other schmuck who has screwed us over in the last however many years.

reply to post by slipknotrules2009


I voted for Obama after I received a response to a letter I had written to him. Here is the text of the response:

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me in support of core constitutional principles, such as support for basic civil liberties and opposition to torture and indefinite imprisonment. I strongly agree with these views and you can see that in my record. As a constitutional lawyer, law professor and public servant, I have been clear, consistent and outspoken in defense of these core principles. And I will work hard to restore our constitutional traditions as president. This Administration has put forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand. When I am president, there will be no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. Our Constitution works, and so does the FISA court. By working with Congress and respecting our courts, I will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom. My Administration will once again show the world that we are not a country that ships prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far off countries, that we are not a country that runs prisons which lock people away without ever telling them why they are there or what they are charged with. When I am President, America will reject torture without exception. I will also reject indefinite imprisonment without trial and close Guantanamo, reject the Military Commissions Act, and adhere to the Geneva Conventions. Our Constitution is not a nuisance. It is the foundation of our democracy. I will continue to fight against the assault on our nation’s most treasured document.

Sincerely,
Barack Obama

Health care for the poor is not something I have a problem with - people should not be dying in this country because they don't have or lose their health insurance. Period.

Obama hasn't done enough to turn back the clock on what Bush destroyed. That's my biggest complaint. Outting CIA agents, torture, illegal wiretapping, unprovoked war.....these are crimes and they should be punished rather than ignored.

With regard to his claims in this response, I'll let you reach your own conclusions. I just don't think he has done nearly enough. All I can do is hope that the special prosecutor takes his investigation to the top. Jail is the only way to stop these psychos from doing it again.




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Originally posted by slipknotrules2009
We really need some kind of online voting system for all laws and bills that every United States citizens to vote on by the people and not the goverment we should have say over everything, as we have seen congress can not vote on anything the right way, this is ridiculous.

That wouldn't work. People barely know what's going on in the ballots they do complete. Besides, you're suggesting the Constitution be thrown out completely.

We elect representatives because we already have full-time jobs. We don't have time to research and vote on every single thing the government does. There needs to be reform with regard to completely irrelevant earmarks within legislation. Get that out the way and you'll see improvement. Earmarks are nothing more than bribes and they cost the taxpayer billions.

I think you could argue that Obama is the "Anti-Christ" metaphorically speaking. Lucifer was known as the Great Deceiver and one could argue that Obama deceived many people that voted for him.

Keeping all the Patriot Act provisions that Bush created
Bolstering troops in the middle east
Bi-Partisan raping of the US citizens by Central Banks
Enslavement to Government
Corporate take over

In the mean time he keeps telling us he agrees with all that, and does just the opposite! Just like how you name the worst piece of legislation ever wrote that trounces on liberty and freedom the Patriot Act, that way anyone who opposes it must be Un-patriotic.

I think he had no idea what he was getting himself into, or better yet whom he is currently having to deal with. I think he was allowed into office because of how he moved the American populous. And now that he's in the PTB have placed their strangle hold on him like all of the presidents before him. He's probably a decent human being that has just bitten off way more than he can chew. I pray for him and hope that maybe he'll find a way to help us somewhat. Only time will tell.

Hey,

Here was a vid that was made on Obama i think this sums up the thoughts of many people, it's great!

www.youtube.com...

Here is the vid hopefully this works i'm new to this

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o he DID have a clue what is to be president,he was raised and groomed to be a president by his masters,the worlds elite, look at the perfect puppet,he bringed so much lies and demise,and he will bring the new age of NWO,yet we still have people who think he maybe is not that bad.
killer vaccines,chiping,poor people without healtcare going to CAMPS -> obama
he should be OVERTHROWN before your kids start praysing pagan gods and worshiping the dollar bill

Same as george bush, same as, same as. Both useless leaders.

enough said.

All they are into is murder and torture, i wonder how many snuff films they watch.

My thoughts:

I wanted Hillary Clinton to win

Then I wanted John McCain to win

Something about Obama that I can't seem to trust, especially all the pre-election media hype for him.

He'll probably end up as corrupt and as disliked as any previous president.

Personally, I believe that if someone campaigns for the presidency and then does the exact opposite of what he said he was going to do, then they should be tried for treason. Obama is no exception. He has gone against his word regarding Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan the Patriot act and the list goes on..

If you are willing to be president then you must be willing to die. You must be willing to use the position for the intent of the people and the moral fortitude behind intended actions should be a strength other Americans can use as energy towards the positive. If not, then you fail as president and should be taken out of office in whatever manner.

Obama is no exception.
Instead, he's caused nothing but diversity, has changed the outlokk of the country as a whole towards a bleak future, has been so pompous as to already alienate the very leaders around the world who once supported him and there is NO end in site.

You can debate all the points you want.. he's doing this, he's trying he's etc etc.. it's all baloney. He lied and he will continue to lie and he will continue to be the good puppet he is. Bush set this country up for the fall and Obama is pushing us off the cliff. Way to go fellow Americans in electing a glaringly obvious weak president.

Obama.

Are we getting change? you betcha..
I saw a bumper sticker the other day that made me wear a sad and silly grin at the same time. It was on a white background in plain black letters:

"How's that "Change" working out for ya?"

It was the first bumper sticker I wanted to put on my car as well.

I'm sure you know how I feel about him now.

b

Obama = Black Illuminati... carrying out the agenda of the New World Order...
people are so dumb thinking this guy is going to ride in and change everything.
He is worse than Bush. same old same old

My thoughts on Obama are he is trying his best to keep a shi ty situation from becomming a total mess. See when Obama took office he had lots of pressure to deal with such as, considering the MESS BUSH LEFT for the next PRESIDENT TO TAKE ON IN PERSUING THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT. Second he had to consider if I dont go for it there may NEVER BE ANOTHER CHANCE FOR A MINORITY TO TAKE THIS POSITION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. So he took the COURAGE DIRECTION AND STILL TRIED TO MAKE THINGS WORK AND MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY knowing his plate was OVERLOADED with GWBs bull shi t. For showing such courage I GIVE HIM MAD PROPZ AND RESPECT HIM because everyone else who contributed to the down fall of the EARTH ran like little CURRS WIT THEY TAILS INBETWEEN THEY LEGS knowing WHOEVER TRIES TO FIX THIS WILL HAVE A HARD TIME DOING SO AND THEY DIDNT WANT TO TRY TO. SO again he is highly respected for attemmpting to fix such an issue as the ENTIRE EARTH.

The sad thing is you got all these REPUBLICANS CRYEN AND WHYNIN ABOUT EVERY THING HE DO AND DO THEY BEST TO GO AGAINST HIS GRAIN-EVEN THO THESE SAME REPUBLICANS BACKED GWB WITH A PASSION ON WMDz AND POUNCING THE MID EAST WITH IGNORANCE *sorry* YEA OK SHOWS THEIR TRUE BRAIN CAPACITIES THEY ARE SUPER WEAK AND SHALL PAY FOR THE EYES THEY POKED OUT WITH THEIR EYES so be it. THEY NOT ALL BUT MOST ARE RACIST AND CANNOT SEE "GOD" BLESSED THIS COUNTRY 1 LAST TIME I repeat 1 last time AS SO MANY OF YOU REQUESTED HE BLESS YOU, WITH A MAN WHO HAS A UNIQUE ETHNIC BACKGROUND and what happens they say I aint listening to you BLACK MAN WHO ARE YOU even tho he is half and half. SO for the idiots who CAUSED THIS EARTH TO BEGIN ITS REGENERATION PROCESS WITH HELP FROM THE SUN FOR IT HAS BEGUN, THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE PAYMENT TO PAY FOR THEY SINS AND ITS ON ITS WAY (vaccines anyone). GOOD DAY ATS REMEMBER AN EYE FOR AN EYE ALWAYS SETS THE STANDARD

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Originally posted by Smokey420
reply to post by slipknotrules2009

 

He's not the antichrist, a socialist, or any other name idiots want to call him, but he's no different than any other schmuck who has screwed us over in the last however many years.

Definition of "socialism": "Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potentialities and does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public...

Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and programme...Some socialists advocate complete nationalisation of the means of production, distribution, and exchange...Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, German and Chinese Communists in the 1970s and 1980s, instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not free prices for the means of production).[6] Social democrats propose selective nationalisation of key national industries in mixed economies, while maintaining private ownership of capital and private business enterprise. Social democrats also promote tax-funded welfare programs and regulation of markets..."

en.wikipedia.org...

If "spread the wealth" as said to Joe Plumber by Obama and his "governing" of the car industry, banking, capping salaries, etc., and the many, many other things he has said in the past & present, doesn't sound like socialism, then what's your definition of socialism? Is it the actual meaning of the word? Do you understand what socialism truly is? Or do you deny that Obama isn't trying to "spread the wealth", regulate Wall Street, cap incomes & bonuses, use public money to finance the health care "reform", TARP, etc.?



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My opinion is that if the MSM had actually done their job, we would have a different president today. I know people who voted for Obama that had no clue about his connections to the corrupt Chicago political machine, friendship with Rev. Wright, friendship with William Ayers, connection and work he did for ACORN, etc....he would never have made it through the primaries if the sheep knew his past.

That said, I don't think any of the candidates had our (meaning mainstream America) interests at heart. I fear the only way we are going to have an ethical, clean, responsible and responsive government is to wake the sheep up, quit fighting about Dems vs. Republicans and realize they are all beholden to their lobbyist masters....oh how I long for a person with real ethics and morals to come along that we could ALL get behind! A dream we shall never see, I fear.....

Annie

ALso many should be thankful GOD BLESSED YOU WITH OBAMA for MCCAIN would of threw yal str8 to the wolves w/o repenting your souls @least Obama is giving you all time to repent before its too late and it almost is TRUST ME I KNOW THIS. MY LORD IS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT SO HIS BEST ANSWER IS GIVE THEM HELP BUT FIX HIS COLOR AND SEE IF THEY REALLY TAKE IT THEN I WILL SEE WHO IS REALLY OF HATE FOR THEY WONT TAKE HIS HELP OUT OF HATE OF HIS COLOR lol losers.

Originally posted by AnnieNakki

oh how I long for a person with real ethics and morals to come along that we could ALL get behind! A dream we shall never see, I fear.....

Annie

I wouldnt give up so easy ANNIE THIS BEING YOU SPEAK OF IS CLOSER THEN YOU ALL KNOW FRIEND.

I would like to state that I have no comment on this subject.

On the grounds that people may believe my comment to be racist.