Torture, by those trusted to Serve and Protect

the science of torture is truly a hideous monstrosity

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Hi 1986spacecruise,

Welcome, I see you just joined ATS today..

Originally posted by infidel666

These two organizations had their purpose and place in time.
But that time has long passed.

AMEN, I've said this for a long time. Instead of being a help, they are now a huge problem that will only snowball and get much worst.

A relative worked in a jail and told me about a local doctor that was arrested for beating his little girl. The cops took him into the showers and wrapped bars of soap in towels and beat the man mercilessly and she could hear his screams. She was told to keep her mouth shut. Later the doctor was found innocent. He was going through a divorce and his daughter got some bruises playing and his wife used the opportunity to cause him some trouble. And they expect us to respect the law enforcement people. There are FEW that I trust.

Take the time and watch this video. It's absolutely frightening this is in America.
The Largest Street gang in America

Originally posted by brainwreck
Take the time and watch this video. It's absolutely frightening this is in America.
The Largest Street gang in America

Cool video, and it only highlights further, the extent of how bad things are in the ranks of those that serve. The tentacles reach far and wide. Not just law enforcement, but every facet of public service. They are thick as thieves; the whole lot of them. The mismanagement, corruption, fraud, secrecy, and deceit is like a cancer, and sadly, I think it has metastasise and now the host(the US) is on life support. It has spread to every facet of politics from local, state, and federal. These are the same things that destroyed Rome, because it ate away at itself from within, and all it took, was some barbarians to push over the wobbling giant.

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I'm pretty sure Godfather style bosses still exist in mid to large sized metropolitan areas.

I KNOW the Godfather exists and so do the bosses. A very good friend of mine has an uncle (his Mom's brother) who is boss in a mid size city in upper state NY. The Godfather from the movie was also a relation. Both my Mother and my Father had some brushes with the "organization" as well. I have know they existed since I was in grade school.

Great article. Unfortunately corrupt police forces are not confined to Chicago and New York. I am in NC and the small city I live in is known for its corrupt police and ties to drug Lords and so are the towns next to me. A friend working at the dog pound overheard a high level meeting and was fired, her house trash as a lesson and then had the life of her child threatened. So Corruption in the police and politicians is not confined to just the big Northern cities.

I always thought that the humanity as a whole took a huge step back when approving and lowering down to this. It wouldn't really surprise me that some of these coked-up leaders would be torture these people personally.

I mean, they are sick in the head.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Anybody who is familiar with the finer details of this and many other related situations regarding the Machine would not be surprised. What is surprising is the lack of outcry.

"If people see this footage, they'll go, 'Oh my God! That's horrible!" then go on eating their dinner." -- Hotel Rwanda

An update on this matter, which has gone cold for so long. As of May 24th 2010, alleged torturer, former Chicago Police Officer Commander, Jon Burge, is getting his day in court.

Jon Burge Trial: Police Torture Described By First Witness As Trial Begins

This trial will not address the torture allegations made against him, because the statute of limitations have expired. He is being tried for allegedly committing two counts of obstruction of justice and one count of perjury in regarding his testimony in 2003 lawsuit in which he denied any knowledge or involvement in torture during his tenure as a police officer. If convicted of these crimes he may spend the rest of his life in prison?

As stated in the OP, it has taken years and the serious charges of torture may never be addressed? However, at least the horrors will be known and brought to light in this perjury trial and a court of law. Some of the victims were cold-blooded criminals? To torture them for information and confessions is no excuse! They are entitled to their rights while in police custody. Serious human rights violations may have taken place at the hands of this police officer and others under his leadership? This situation is a black mark on the City of Chicago and the Chicago Police Department. My hats off to the intrepid tenacity shown by US Attorney, Patrick Fitzgerald, for bringing this man to justice.



More updates to follow as the trial continues . . .


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the sad part is law enforcement will always abuse their power...they always have and always will. of coure thats not to say all oficers always abuse it, but in general (at least from my experiences) its easier for them to push their boundaries than to secceeed even slghtly.

i guess it just goes with the territory

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
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the sad part is law enforcement will always abuse their power...they always have and always will. of coure thats not to say all oficers always abuse it, but in general (at least from my experiences) its easier for them to push their boundaries than to secceeed even slghtly.

i guess it just goes with the territory

Any one with power may abuse it. It goes for the General, Politician, Doctor, Lawyer, Judge, and even police. Essentially anyone of authority can abuse their power at one time or another. However, if abuses occur they must be dealt with quickly and efficiently. Sadly, that has not been the case for years, and now there is an epidemic of abuses and corruption. Restraint is a virtue.

Any person of authority should always remember that when exerting power to vulnerable. It is okay to be tough in certain circumstances, but at the very least, be fair and reasonable. It is good news that this alleged monster is going before a court and will be made to address the atrocious allegations made against him. Plus, if found guilty he will spend a very long time behind bars. Thanks for the reply!

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well said and quite true...

Notice the quiet from the cop cultists? No one is coming forth to say that it is fine and dandy and cops never violate the law. Even THEY must have some tiny shred of conscience.

I saw the video linked and it made my blood boil...I had to stop lest I go and rid society of some brutal, sickening, animal of a cop that is torturing the innocent. The OP did a great job on this....it shuts the mouths of those self righteous cops that are always telling us that only a few cops are bad....MOST cops are abd...bad to the bone, and willing to cover up the CRIMES of their fellow cops.

Burge should be horsewhipped to within an inch of his life and then thrown into prison with the worst Chicago gansters locked away....I am sure they would have fun with him. He is a monster...a sadist who no doubt derived sick pleasure from the horrific abuse he heaped on the innocent. People like him deserve the worst society has to offer...NOT a retirement and pension....my God, how can he get away with this?

I would shout with glee if the People rose up as the Italians did after WW2 and dragged all of the nations worst offenders, the politicians and lawyers that perpetuate these crimes, like DALEY, and hung them by their heels. In public as an example to all who would seek office: Absue us and you will pay the price.

One day I swear if this crap with cops gets any worse, it will take a secret squad or movement, well funded, that would track down and get justice in cases where the system fails...like this one. Burge should be in fear of ever leaving his house lest a vengeful gangster send him a message he could not help but notice. More power to whoever does it.

Big update today! Former Chicago Police Commander, Jon Burge, has been convicted on all counts in his perjury trial. The conviction stems from lying under oath in a civil trial about his knowledge of torture taking place on his watch as a Chicago police officer.

Ex-Chicago policeman guilty of lying about torture

Jon Burge, 62, was tried on perjury and obstruction of justice charges because the alleged torture occurred too long ago for him to be directly accused of those crimes.

The guilty verdict on all three counts in a federal indictment means he could face up to 45 years in prison.

Thanks goodness this monster will spend the rest of his life behind bars, and now lets hope his colleagues face the music as well. This travesty even reaches as far as Mayor Richard Daley when he was District Attorney during the eighties. He dishonored his fellow police officers, made a mockery of the justice system, and robbed taxpayers in Chicago when he was able to receive his pension. Finally justice is served, and hopefully this conviction acts a chilling affect on police officers who would resort to cruel and inhumane treatment to get confessions and to make cases.

He will NOt spend the rest of his miserable life in jail, sadly. i bet that he will get 10 years at MOST. In the Fed system there is no parole so he would do a lot of that 10...but he deserves the death penalty.

Burge is a sadistic monster that has no human kindness and the morals of an alleycat. He tortured people and had no regrets...and then perjured himself. They will put him in a low securrity prison where the bad guys cannot get to him. If he ever was sent to a real pen, he would have to live in solitary to stay alive. Inmates HATE cops that get busted, and really hate those that torture the innocent.

In a just world, Burge would be turned over to his victims to be dealt with....sadly this monster will probably walk the streets again someday.

And don't forget, he was not alone...there are MANY cops out there never caught that deserve to be swinging from a rope...and they are still abusing the people. When Burge's black heart finally beats its last, he will be escorted to the infernal realms to spend eternity being given the same treatment he gave so many others, and I hope it hurts.

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I hope he does spend the rest of his decrepit existence behind bars? He is 62-years-old and this is the time when chronic ailments begin showing their ugly faces. Federal Attorney, Patrick Fitzgerald, deserves a thumbs up for going after this guy and ensuring his crimes are put out in the open. I, like anyone, would like to see him on trial for the human rights violations and torture, but any prosecution is better than nothing. Remember they did not get Al Capone for all the murders and carnage he caused, but for tax evasion. He then was made to waste away in Alcatraz.

I hear you about the reality of the situation and how he is going to be segregated in prison. Still, he will no longer be basking in the sun and taking voyages on his boat called "Vigilante." Burge is a beast and a monster, but what about his accomplices? Will they face the music as well? Some prominent figures in Illinois politics have involvement in this one as well.