Aliens will "comeback" in a official way this year!

Well, well. How did I end my previous post?
Let me remind you,
"...am I going to get another - 'in the case that you do not have read all the topic from the beginning' and so do not fully understand what you are trying to communicate?

What reply did I in fact get from you Kangaxx?
"... if you read the complete posts..."

If anyone was left wondering about your subject here, let them now make up their mind. The response I recieved differed from my 'prediction' in wording only. From my posting it should be apparent to all that I have read diligently your posts Kangaxx. Your reply serves only to further my point, and your lack of real answers for the members of ATS.

Then we move on to your reference "so if for your level of inteligence..."

My, my, aren't we getting touchy. I believe I managed to post without resorting to any such personal attack against you.
To further this point I offer to you another extract from your reply:
"althou i must congratulate you, because you have stated your points not in a "insane blood lust attack" way , but folowing a few topics of respect..."

The two quotes from you are conflicting. From the one quote I take it you are trying to criticise my level of intelligence, then from the next you congratulate me on the respectful way which I expressed my views. Perhaps such conflict has been brought about because of an apprehension on your part as to what others may take from my posting. An understandable state because it does, I believe, expose such discrepancies in your argument as to completely negate any and all of your postings reguarding this subject.

I hoped you would accept my posting in just such an impersonal way (reguarding the latter quote). I mean to present my argument in a clear precise way without having to fall back on any personal attacks against you, and was in no way meant as an attack upon your person, but a critical deconstruction of your argument.

I wish you no ill will at all, but felt I had to reply to your ravings in a such manner because I believe deep down you have as much faith in your stories as I do, and I dislike your attempt to mislead this forum. Especially the attempts to argue your points so poorly and to then think that no-one would be able to challenge them.

The 'proof' of what I am saying, and believe comes through your own words, as did my extensive previous posting. You have responded just as I 'predicted' you would, telling me to go back and read your posts because I did not understand. I would have thought it sensible, and easy, to avoid such a reply after actually reading my prediction of the way you would answer.

Then again though, perhaps you didn't read my post properly. This appears to be your favourite rebuttal, how ironic then that you should fall foul of it yourself.

My best wishes to you, Jack.





[edit on 18-6-2004 by JAK]

dear friend JAK:as i sayed later, my best wishes to you too, its quite obvious that all your arguments are just a reflexion of what you belives, that it is not diferent at all from my( and your) free right to belive in what ever we want! you see what you want to see!, simple. if you see a offense about your level of inteligence pitty, that it is your guilty felling working, not me, it is funny how you twist something that can have a lot of meanings, if we use imgination, givin it only one..lol if you have a low, normal or a genious inteligence, that it is not stated anyhwere here! it's your problem.it is you that are assuming things not me "acording to your level of inteligence", its a phrase that only stated what it states: "your personal level of inteligence"!, if you see there other possible meanings, that it was just your mind or possible you imagination. althou what ever you can argue about ,never can proof diferent means from what i have wroted.but if tat it's what you belive, please pray continue i am always glad to see how certain minds work. at least it is always good for the sake of phsicology.are you not like the ones that say that "we, the belivers" just see what we want to see?...so what you are doing here so far it is exatly the same!
how hironic this is!
maybe you dont have the right age or life experience to had notice already how futile it is this "word game"! not need to be a genious to notice that we can be "in that game" for all the eternity, and nothing practicle or usefull will can be acheaved! i will be extremly pleased if you envolved to a higher stage of dialogue, diferent from this "little words game", i am sure we bouth dont have the right age for it anymore.

when i was a infant i loved to play "scrumble", but now i do not fell to have so much patience to that kind of games

cya

P.S.- we are not in a courtroom, or in the saintly spanish inquisition, if you want to debate and ask things about the things i talked here, fine, but if you only want to try to proof that this is a lie or i am a hoax, you are waisting your time, that never was the objective, and never will be!, but debating and share ideas about it, that it is a "healthy" idea. now if you only want to bash me because i belive in a diferent thing that you belive,,,that was abolished at least in the dark age!)can you respect other people ideas?, can you understend the right meaning of "democratia"?, do you know the all possible meanings for the word "information"!, please envolve at a higher stage of dealing with me, i am sure that if you have sufficient inteligence to read so many things posted by me, just in order you can find "imaginative" flaws on it, i am sure you can have too the right intelect to ask and debate this subjects in a mature way.
[edit on 18-6-2004 by kangaxx]

[edit on 18-6-2004 by kangaxx]

Oh, my dearest Kangaxx.

Well we are in a pickle aren't we. I noted that your initial response to my main posting (posted on 18-6-2004 at 08:43 AM Post Number: 605998 (post id: 626692)) was quite polite, a trait that you seem to be doing away with the more our correspondence continues.

Why is this do you suppose? Your initial reply to me carried but one personal slight. Disappointing yes because as I stated before, I believe I managed to post without resorting to any such personal attack against you, but just the one nevertheless.

Now it is though, we come to your latest rantings.

Kangaxx, there is no need for name calling and slanderous comments about ones person. Please, let us refrain from such. To exemplify this point, in reply I shall again refrain from commenting on any references such as allusions to "your personal level of inteligence" and especially any comparison to points of your argument being as that of a child, ("when i was a infant i loved to play "scrumble", but now i do not fell to have so much patience to that kind of games"). Such comments are very revealing and say more of your personal character and feelings, perhaps even anger you hold toward me, than the effectiveness wished when initially written down as the insults they were.

Anyway, dear friend, let us on to you reply.


Kangaxx posted on 18-6-2004 at 11:57 AM Post Number: 606460 (post id: 627154)
'...it's quite obvious that all your arguments are just a reflexion of what you belives, '

(Jack - What exactly is this supposed to mean? Of course my argument is a reflection of what I believe, thats the point; and the fact that you word it such - "... just a reflexion..." is proof, if further were needed, that despite attempts at patronising insults, you do not understand the nature of this debate.)


' if you see a offense about your level of inteligence pitty, that it is your guilty felling...'

(Jack - Whatever the level of my intelligence Kangaxx, why would I feel guilty about it? Do you believe that I should or deserve to hold some secret personal shame because I dare attempt to expose you? Perhaps the most pertinent question might be - why is the question of my intelligence raised at all? We are/were supposed to be debating the validity of your postings. Let us move on, indeed let us skip a further entire half of your post, your penchant for justification through personal insults betrays you and needs no more dwelling upon.)


'maybe you dont have the right age or life experience'

(Jack - Yes, thats it. I criticise you therefore I 'dont have the right age or life experience'. Not really much of an argument is it Kangaxx. I'm sure you will agree that next time there should perhaps be a little longer between my post and your response, for I am positive - with a little longer to think about it - even you can come up with a more convincing assertion that this.)

Next Kangaxx comes perhaps my favourite part to your reply. You go on to say how using your own words against you, exposing you through quotes taken directly from you, unaltered in any way and quotes which you placed on this forum of your own free will, is an infantile 'word game' and what is more - (oh, this gets even better!) - you don't have the patience for it!

Oh dear. What can I say? A statement heard many times from many people in trouble and who are panicking, who's story/alibi is leading nowhere, is just such a response, "No, your twisting my words... I didn't meant that." Now this my friend is just as unconvincing no matter where it comes from.

Yet again Kangaxx, you offer no rebuttal in your reply, only a poorly constructed assortment of cheap insults and inadequate excuses.

If you choose to respond to this Kangaxx, please for the good of us all, (and so we don't get too bored with your standard nonsensical, disjointed prattle), take a little more time to examine what you are actually going to post as a reply.

Allow me to help you a little.

Any future replies should hold valid points reinforcing your position and derogating those of your adversary, and unless that is the case, I shall presume you are incapable of defending your position and thus admitting to the truths that I have posted here. Among which was, and I repeat:

You, sir, are a fraud.

Yours, in friendship, Jack

[edit on 19-6-2004 by JAK]

Well I'm a little confused are you saying a sun polar shift will cause an earth polar shift.

There have been polar shifts in the past, documented by geologists and none of them seemed to coincide with any extinction events.

Although I never heard any theories on what might happen if the sun had a polar shift.
A massive coronal ejection... maybe..

so my dear frien, you make the "game" continue, so play it alone!!..IMAO
you do not ask a single thing about the message or the informations i have stated here, instead you are trying to "debunk" my character...lol, that its very funny! as far as i can see my topic have nothing about with "character analisys", but if you insist on that subjects, i will be forced to alow you to "play alone" your funny game. cya mate, it was quite interesting this small kind of dialogue we have meet.
big hug.

P.S.- in the case that you are trying to proof that i am "not perfect"...dont waiste your time then, it is very clear that i am not perfect, humans are not perfect, and i am not a God , or a guru, or a "messiah". i have red blood as you, i have the some organs you have(exeption can be if you have removed any one), and moust important, i have the same type of feelings then you, and for sure i do not use them to boring /bash no one. but please pray continue, maybe i will be remember one day like a kind of "virtualmartir",,hehe. but you will continue for sure in a "ignored status", i have respected you folowing some rules of diplomacy, but you insist in a talkig about me istead of talking topic subjects, sorry, no more time for "word games"

P.S.S- cynical games are of to bad taste too, my personal tolerance to be cynical as ended, so i must stop.for a moment when i was reading and unswer you, i have had the feeling i was in a "cynical contest"..lol, well, stay well and good luck on your life, that whats i realy (with out cinycal meanings)wish for you!bye.

[edit on 19-6-2004 by kangaxx]

unusualme wrotes:

"Well I'm a little confused are you saying a sun polar shift will cause an earth polar shift.

There have been polar shifts in the past, documented by geologists and none of them seemed to coincide with any extinction events.

Although I never heard any theories on what might happen if the sun had a polar shift.
A massive coronal ejection... maybe.."


no, it was not real me that was "telling that"! i stated that information was told to me by aliens. if it is possible or not, if it have other cosmic possible things related to that shift, i can 't explain, because i am not a astronomer or a phisyc scientist.
i have posted same pages ago a good link that explains very well ( in a earth scientific way) what is a polar shift and when they must ocur. i will post again in orther you can read it, it is a preatty good explanation.
acording to want was told to me, the next sun shift in 2012 will provoke in the hearth a change in they'r axis, a major change, and that will be chaotic in geological means. althou(as i sayed before) if it is only that event that will provoke that i do not know, it is possible that it only happens in that way due to other celestial objects near us, that i cant confirm...yet!


The link for the explanation about magnetism and shifts:

science.nasa.gov...

My dear friend Kangaxx,

Kangaxx posted on 18-6-2004 at 09:01 PM Post Number: 607169 (post id: 627863)
'but please pray continue... but you will continue for sure in a "ignored status",

Oh Kangaxx, how utterly demonstrative of the strength of your position, that you would choose to ignore me.

It is highly amusing to see that I am now on your ignore list. No more definate a sign could I ask for to prove my point, though you may feel free to take me off of you 'bad boy' list due to the following reason.

In response to your latest post, please allow me to make use of yet another quote, although this time one from a previous posting of my own,

Jak posted on 18-6-2004 at 08:38 PM Post Number: 607148 (post id: 627842)
"Any future replies should hold valid points reinforcing your position and derogating those of your adversary, and unless that is the case, I shall presume you are incapable of defending your position and thus admitting to the truths that I have posted here."

Sir, you have wholly failed to post anything worthy of futher discussion. Throughout this debate I have made use of nothing but your own words to discredit you, to which you have been unable to place any valid reply.

I therfore accept your failure to do so as proof that indeed you cannot.

Your inane reasoning is unworthy of any further reply from myself and thus I decline any further interaction with you over this subject, so feel free to remove me from your ignore list. If, however, you should continue in any other forum in such as way as you have done here, I hope you will expect to be questioned by any other member of ATS with the same voracity as here.

Again, yours in friendship, (and without having to resort to ignoring you),

Jak

Good job kangaxx walk away from this one....sheesh. Reading the Jak postings are interesting only because he has a very good grasp of the english language....but he seams to talk in circles does he not?

He says nice and sweet things to you and then says you speak "ravings" wich I think is a harsh and angry attack on you PERSONALLY...nothing about the content of you material.........Then he says you are "ranting" wich is much of the same...........(once again NOTHING about your content just your charector)....and I shall quote him further by him saying tou reply with "standard nonsensical disjointed PRATTLE"....."inane reasoning" ect ect.....
Well.....whew...THATS a real mouthfull!.......he does have a VERY good grasp on the english lanuage and makes a heck of alot of 'noise' but then he says......N O T H I N G.
Just makes alot of long winded speaches about your personal charector he cracks me up..........tis a dam shame he has NOTHING to say about the content of your message with all that FANCY SHMANCEY prattle he inanely raves on with....yes Kangaxx he is just playing a word game and you have pegged him truly. He is all about "blah blah blah blah blah".........he is in NO way truly attempting to debate you, just to debase you.

Right now I cant really recall what it was you are calling that board game....but I think you meant SCRABBLE.......your so cute Kangaxx...you make me smile........and NOW you make me wanna play SCRUMBLE or whatever your calling it......

PS: initially it was ME! *pointing@herself* who brought up the polar shift stuff...ME ME not Kangaxx....(poor guy getting all the flack)...that was something I asked and brought up not something he stated......he was just answering my question.....



[edit on 19-6-2004 by theRiverGoddess]

IMAO! Godess i think you are absolutly right i can't remmeber the correct game name but i think you are extremly right

it is like a crossworded game, you must putt "letterstones", and you must build words, gaining points in the process in portuguese we call it like: "Sopa de letras", at a straight traslation it means "letter soup"...lol. but we have it too in a portuguese version, but with the original english name so sorry for the error

hehe yes,, i know i can look funny with my "english" mistakes,some times even i laugh alone, when i read my post and i notice some errors, but i like that, it was like a "trade mark" of me!hehe althou i can assure you that since i start to write here, i have improved a lot my english it is a good "english therapy"
althou each time i notice a error i run to correct it. but many others stays.i have hope that one day i can write flawless

stay well my good friend

[edit on 19-6-2004 by kangaxx]

for heavens sake I cant 'write flawlessly' either.......I go back and edit mistakes, or ADD to a thought. Dont worry about your mistakes.....they ARE your trademark and makes me smile as well!

Yes the game your describing IS ....~SCRABBLE~....at least in english that is but we can call it SCRUMBLE if you want, thats ok by me......laughter is my favorite thing!

Dear River Goddess, Enclosed is a U2U I have sent to Kangaxx

"Really Kangaxx, to just ignore someone because you are in an untenable position is very bad form, and does not portray you in a good light. Please read my last post and take my off your ignore list.

I am very dissapointed that this should be the result of our correspondance. I thought, perhaps wished, better of you. I reiterate, I wish you no ill will at all.
Wishing you good health and fortune
Your friend
JAK "

I hope you take from my exposing to you this private message from me to Kangaxx, my attitude toward him. I have never criticised his use of the English language as he alludes to in his post. I cannot even speak another language and truly respect those who can, I would love to be able to. I have also NEVER attacked him personally and I resent the accusation. I have always tried to remain polite in my correspondence.

As for me actually saying nothing, I hate to use a phrase of Kangaxx, but please read my posts again. I feel I have contributed to the debate in a constructive manner, and did ask pertinent questions, to which there was no reply.

One cannot post such claims and then refuse to substantiate them with any proof and yet expect no rebuttle.

Twice Kangaxx actually made claims which upon further investigation by other dilligent ATS members were proved either not of his own or false.

Please remember the motto of this forum - Deny Ignorance.

Ok so what you're saying is you were told these things, but not given all the details. And on top of that don't know much about the event in personal scientific knowledge.

If I'm off base here I'm sorry.

I had a similiar experiance in an abduction that I shared with my grandfather.

theRiverGoddess, personally, I don't see why you feel Jak is talking in circles? From what I can see, he only questions kangaxx's claims. In a very rational and polite way at that.

Earlier in this thread I was getting annoyed by the posts attacking kangaxx, with no mature reasoning whatsoever. This however, I don't think applies to Jack.

I think it'd be more insulting to kangaxx if you don't question his claims at all. Questioning someone only shows that you're at least taking his/her views in consideration. Ignoring someone (that someone being Jack) who's only posting rational questions however, is totally disrespectful.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm only sorry if the discussions here turnes into a defensive or agressive line of arguing. If it does, this thread serves no purpouse.

unusualme wrotes:

"Ok so what you're saying is you were told these things, but not given all the details. And on top of that don't know much about the event in personal scientific knowledge.

If I'm off base here I'm sorry.

I had a similiar experiance in an abduction that I shared with my grandfather."

yes that is correct, i have lots and lots of acurate knoledge about some subjects related to history, vibrational theory and tecniques,dimensions, alien classes and they'r objectives, what we can expect in a close future, ect, but the full scientific details that can explain why that shift could provoke a cathastrofe, i do not have it at alll, maybe because they do not want i know, maybe because i was not prepered to understend, i dont know. but they had given a lot of details about what will happen in that time, you can read that in the first pages. yes i know it is very pages, but if you had experienced something related to a "good abduction", please reat it, it was always extremly interesting to compare informations, it will be nice too if we can know what kind of aliens have been in that experience.
so please pray continue, you are welcome to share information , if you want it.

stay cool

kangaxx you can read about what happened to me in this thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

thx for the link unusual, i will read it carefuly, when i have the proper time, i will unswer you here or there, keep tuned friend

thx once more.

ok, i have red it the best i could for now, i will say something about it.

please notice that i just will analize the case based on what you writed!.

as far as i can see, folowing the cronological events, it is quite obvious that your basic personal vibration it is higher then the majority of the people, mine is higher too, and as well all the majority of the abductees.


we can theorize that you "always" have "called" they'r atencion to you, with your personal vibration. many abductees or people just contacted, had in they'r life story more "weird" sights and feelings then the "normal" ones.

i think it is not clear enoth that you had experienced a "true" phisical" abdiction, but for sure, i can recognize a very well padron in the way you try to explain:

- much more commun then phisical abductions, are "astral contacts"! so alowd me to explain first something related to astral and astral trip:

all the humans when enter in sleep, "exit" they'r bodies and enter the astral plane. the astral plane is a low vibrational world inside the 4rd dimension.
we humans, can learn and train in order we could "exit our bodies before we enter in sleep, in a full consience status, that its called a astral trip, and it is fully described and teached on the buddhist and hinduist cultures.
the more "high vibrational" aliens, travel to this world exatly using the astral plane, that is the explanation how they can travel so huge distances, for example, as far as i know they spend 1 week to travel something like 7,5 billions of light years.using astral ships/4rd dimensional matter.
althou as we can exit our bodies, they can do that too, and some times they use that technique to travel huge distances too, entering a "prepared" boddie some where in one ship or in one of theyr bases.
to that technique we call it "soul transmigration"!. a soul transmigration basicly it is when you exit your body, enter in other body, but you never had died first! because if you have died that it is very diferent and will be caled "reecarnation".

after analasing your stated esperiences, i belive that you usualy have "astral meetings" with them. what it is much more secure, and easy for them then "catch you" in a phisical state.
that kind of "meetings" are extremly usual.

you theorized that besides tha fact that you do not rememeber how they look like, it is possible that they are "greys"...welll in there we have a small problem...there are lots of diferent types of greys!, greys are just hibrydisations of many diferent alien classes, and they are used to do "all the work", it is like: "greys" act or do, they'r "bosses" think!

now, in order you can understend better who they can be:

"neutral" and "evil" aliens, don't use that "astral" tecnique at all, so you are in "good hands" it is the only possibilitie.
some evil ones exist and realy live in the astral plane, but they do not use the astral plane to make contacs, because they do not need that at all, they have realy diferent objectives.

as they had told me, it is quite useless trying to call them by they'r class names. for example, it is quite usless that i can stated that the evil reptilians are called like "YSTKX'RR"!!!(this is just a example, it is not a true name), this makes any cense for any one?,,,i think not!, besides that, the names will change acording the alien language used! althou telepathy are a universal language.
we are used to see names like reticulans, zetas, pleiadians centaurians, ect, but that are just possible references to us in order we can understend each other about who are we talking about. but futile in any way because they'r race names are totay diferent from that names.

althou they told me that the right way to think on them is like a cosmic federation builded by more then 2000 diferent alien classes from diferent sistems and worlds.
althou even about that we ,,,here in the earthhave a huge mess provoked by the desinfo agents, there are "ashtar" fedreations, pegasus federations, cosmic space cadets from orion, ect...but that are just useless names. they are "the federation" period. no further names are needed.

and just "the federation" use the astral way to comunicate and "awake" people. sure we can putt here a question...why they do not do that to all the people?..simple, not all the people have the right minimum personal vibration in order they can "atract" him to the right place in the astral plane, where they are.

now some more weird to explain. :
some times( and this exemple is comun too), people say about driving the car in a isolated place, ...the car stops... they loose time or dont have consience about it, and they fell like to be "atracted by a kind of beam, and start to float.
this dosent mean that you have in fact floated, what have happened in that cases is they "pull" your astral boddie to the astral ship, and when you exit the boddie, you feel like a floating effect. so you will be in the ship, in the astral plane, but your boddie will be in the car...but....why the loose of time and the total stop of the car?..simple.
the first thing they do in that situation, was a kind of "protection", for your boddie, meanwhile you are in the astral plane. so they "putt" your car, in what we call "the limbo plane", its a dimensional plane where in theory, nothing exists!. even time, so when you "return", the clocks and possible time was missing!
the "limbo" full explanation it is so complicated that even me can't understend very well how it wroks , or where exatly it is.
acording to some buddhist teachings, the limbo is a kind of frontier between all the dimensions.with out a "stable matter vibration"! so that can explain a little how can be possible to "transport" 3rd matter to there!
there are not a fixed vibration, and there is not time, so theorectly all the things can be "putted" there with out the the danger of be desintegrated due the lack of a especific required molecular vibration. hard to folow?..yes i belive it is,,sorry.
so, i wish this can be of any usefull interest for you. fell free to ask anithing more, but first please try to see if it was not already unswered in the topic.

cya mate

Hi everyone. First all I must say that I�m new to this forum that I found when searching documents about Atlantis and Lemuria. Clicking in the different topics and ended up on reading this very extense topic about aliens coming back. Second of all I am also portuguese, so I apologize for any mistakes since I�m not used to write in this language.

A special salute to Kangaxx (foi grande a surpresa de ver um portugu�s a falar destas coisas)...

I have a few questions, not about all the folklore (not in a bad sense) about the reticulians and greys and all that stuff because I haven�t done research about that yet, but about this:

1) Kangaxx, in Portugal we have had in the last 2 months, sightings of UFOs, a fact that is uncommon in our country. A pic was in the first page of the Di�rio de Not�cias, one of the portuguese major newspapers. Do you consider this to be related to what you�ve posted?

2) In Oporto, there�s a group connected to the investigation of UFO phenomena (CNIFO?). Are u related to them? I live in Madeira and I�m curious to know from which part of the country are you.

3) As I�ve said before I�m not much into the alien subject. I used to be a few years ago, after reading PhD John Mack�s book "Abducted" (has everyone heard anything about this man, lately?). So, I�m not trying to validate Kangaxx words. One thing�s for sure, he knows a lot of stuff about other things besides alien subject, and I�ve enjoyed reading in the last week the full thread. I don�t think much in physical terms I�m much more worried with my soul�s evolution, so If this world will be destroyed or not I do not find that important, since we�ll end up in someplace else... But I�m curious, Kangaxx about this: thinking of your scenario, are we supposed to do something about it, or your main goal is to tell what you know to us?

4) This discussion about Kangaxx seems to be for me completely sterile. In my opinion or he�s telling the truth (according to his believes, his vision of reality), or he�s completely mad, because I can�t figure out how a person with so much knowledge can come up with a story like this just to make fun of everyone. That would be completely stupid, and only a twisted mind could do that. So I prefer the hypothesis that he�s telling his truth.

I have more questions to Kangaxx but i take a lot of time to write in English so I�ll end this post here waiting for answers.

mr.olcott wrotes:

Q:"1) Kangaxx, in Portugal we have had in the last 2 months, sightings of UFOs, a fact that is uncommon in our country. A pic was in the first page of the Di�rio de Not�cias, one of the portuguese major newspapers. Do you consider this to be related to what you�ve posted? "

U: hi dear friend first of all i am very pleased to see here another portuguese"* e ainda por cima da ilha da madeira ai que saudades que tenho do Funchal!*now, unswering, yes the sights in our contry is related to the "project" they are running, but the especific fact that you talk about, and was talked in many newspapers are a exeption to that "project", that was a diferent thing, not a !alien UFO", but a human machine, maybe experimental, maybe not, nobodies know yet.the weird fact was that our air force was in red alert the day after that...that it is more weird then the UFO itself!

Q:"2) In Oporto, there�s a group connected to the investigation of UFO phenomena (CNIFO?). Are u related to them? I live in Madeira and I�m curious to know from which part of the country are you. "

U:i am not associated with anykind of "public organization", lol,,,just imagine if i will tell my experience on our country!!... i will be anoyed night and day by the national TV's to give intervews, and make TV shows....lol, i realy can't alowed that! it is against my belives, the only way i could do that was if "they" advice me that!, but i think itys more easy the chikens can born with teehts then that!
i live in Costa da Caparica.

Q:"3) As I�ve said before I�m not much into the alien subject. I used to be a few years ago, after reading PhD John Mack�s book "Abducted" (has everyone heard anything about this man, lately?). So, I�m not trying to validate Kangaxx words. One thing�s for sure, he knows a lot of stuff about other things besides alien subject, and I�ve enjoyed reading in the last week the full thread. I don�t think much in physical terms I�m much more worried with my soul�s evolution, so If this world will be destroyed or not I do not find that important, since we�ll end up in someplace else... But I�m curious, Kangaxx about this: thinking of your scenario, are we supposed to do something about it, or your main goal is to tell what you know to us? "

U:the true propose besides the "predition", was to make people more Awake about love , and about what love is, it is expected that people can awake for that subject, and can feel it(reach the especific vibration) in order they can be "transported" to the "new" world, when the day cames!many many physical lifes can be saved yet if they awake for the fully understanding of what love is, and how controled by "evil"/"extreme low vibrations" we are in the present days.

thx for your time reading my topic, and many thx for your questions.

stay cool my friend

P.S- i think it is possible that i have misunderstended the question about the UFO in the "diario de noticias" newspaper. it is possible that we are talking about diferent ones. if you are refereing to the one that was seen by people all over the country, then my unswer is correct, if it is the ufo fotographed by the engineering studend in alentejo or other one, then i must correct the unswer, but first i need to know more info from you about that especific UFO.yes, it was a "UFO" time here in the "continente" in the last 2 mounths cya.


[edit on 19-6-2004 by kangaxx]

not wishing to hijack this thread but.. ENOUGH ALREADY!
can we now call an end to this petty namecalling and and get back to
debating the issues ... namely kanga and my predictions of extra-terrestrial
contact this year...