Birther Lawyer in hot water after accusing judge of treason

This conversation is going nowhere.
Please note that out of every attorney in the country, not one reputable lawyer has pursued the birther thing. Why do you imagine that might be?
i would suggest that if you were being sued or accused of a crime, don't bother with the Bar, just hire a marketing person.

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THE DESTROYERS WHO CONTROL CONGRESS, THE WHITE HOUSE & MEDIA

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Hmmm, one of her articles,

Originally posted by OldDragger
This conversation is going nowhere.

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Sorry some people like bumps.

We can keep it going or let it die.

Hmmm is right.
She sounds like a John Bircher, a far far right nut.
not impressed in the least.
it's not the "commies' you need to worry about, it's the lobbyists and corporate thieves that are manipulating uniformed "conservatives' to protect their monied interests. the Tea Baggers that fight for the freedom of the health care industry to increase their profits another 450% in the next five years!
There IS a sucker born every minute.

reply to post by praxis


I find that picture very interesting indeed. A picture worth a thousand words? In this case, I think yes.

On topic, this whole birth certificate thing is never going to go anywhere. This isn't the 70's, and no judge in his or her right mind is going to rule against Obama. Perhaps once upon a time we had a country where our masters were accountable to the people, but that has gone the way of the dodo. The only way anyone is going to get anywhere in this case, is if they had 100% proof positive. Even then, they'd better have back-up's and live in a cave until the proceedings were over. Otherwise, they'd just wind up dead from a 'suicide' or tragic 'accident', and the evidence would disappear. I mean, what'd they give the guy who shot Rob Kennedy? 75$, a 5th of whiskey, and the gun?

Chrono

Orly may be a wackjob, but I still want to see the long form B.C. His not releasing it is what made me suspicious. I don't care what the rest of them say, or what their reasoning is, but I guess wanting to see it makes me a birther of my own right. Hiding things just makes on suspicious even if its for innocent reasons.

Wow, orly may not be so smart, or tact, or professional, but atleast she keeps pursuing what she knows is the truth. I am a birther in that I dont believe BHO is a natural born citizen. There is no real proof of his being born in Hawaii, and he has not only just not shown his records (school, college, long form BC), but he has gone to very great lengths to NOT have them come out, including paying almost a million dollars of taxpayer money for a bunch of top-rate lawyers.

The Rhodes letter is apparently not even being considered by the court, as it seems it was not processed properly and indeed there is talk and some evidence that it is a forgery. Hmm....forgeries, forgeries, forgeries.

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Originally posted by kingoftheworld
Wow, orly may not be so smart, or tact, or professional, but atleast she keeps pursuing what she knows is the truth. I am a birther in that I dont believe BHO is a natural born citizen. There is no real proof of his being born in Hawaii, and he has not only just not shown his records (school, college, long form BC), but he has gone to very great lengths to NOT have them come out, including paying almost a million dollars of taxpayer money for a bunch of top-rate lawyers.

bwahahahaha, I bet you bought that crap from her website. I don't know why people keep claiming that Obama is "fighting" these suits "with an army of lawyers." He's not even named as a Defendant in most of the them, and so far I believe he has only bothered to respond to two of them, at most.

His lawyers moved to dismiss one of Berg's cases, and handily achieved that in less than 6 pages. His lawyers also wrote a letter requesting sanctions against one of Berg's hired-dupe front-men in a state-level case, for obvious violations of attorney conduct and knowingly participating in an unwinnable nuisance suit.

Other than that, Obama hasn't had to lift a finger, since these cases self-destruct on their own -- largely because they are inappropriately filed by amateur case-lawyers who don't understand the law, have no legal basis for their suits, are ineligible to file them and couldn't win anyway since they have no compelling arguments, no sworn evidence and no physical evidence to suggest that Barack Obama is anything but a natural born American.

And don't tell me about the "$1 million" or the "$687,000" you think he's spent defending the BC suits. The first number is utterly imaginary, and the second number is post-election legal billings to his Campaign Committee, which I'm sure has hundreds of other legitimate uses for legal counsel that are much more pressing than fighting a dentist, a 9-11 Truther and a punk-rock performance artist named Donofrio over another Ed Hale bigfoot story.

The Chief Trial Counsel of the State Bar of the State of California has filed a complaint against Orly Taitz seeking her disbarment: countryfirst.bravehost.com...

and

Source:- Birther Orly Taitz Faces California Bar Complaint Over Attack On Judge

"I respectfully request that you investigate Ms. Taitz's conduct and impose an appropriate sanction. She is an embarrassment to the profession," writes Subodh Chandra, who practices in Ohio and is also an inactive member of the California bar."

Btw update: Birther Orly Taitz Compares Self To Mandela, Wants Judge Tried For Treason
One of the best comments there I agree with :-
"Okay, I'll buy in. She is like Mandela. So can we lock her up for 25 years and then agree she was just a misunderstood African and let her out?"

Letter signed Capt. Connie Rhodes says she never OK'd appeal, says Rhodes will file complaint against attorney Orly Taitz

Not only she did an illegal move by appealing without clients approval she has now even annoyed the judge and faces possible sanctions and disbarment.

Found this cartoon script which relates this thread:

reply to post by titorite


Why should President Obama have to produce something that no other president of the United States or even candidate for president of the United States have had to produce?

What you don't understand is that from the minute Obama indicated he was going to run for president not just the Republican party but his fellow Democratic party rivals for the nomination looked for anything to prevent him from doing so. It's not personal, it's just politics. Had there been any shred, any hint, any possibility, no matter how small or far-fetched, that anything could have kept him off state ballots, either during the primary races or the national election, it would have been found, investigated and divulged at a press conference.

Do you really believe that Hillary Clinton did not have people looking high and low for some bit of information she chould have used to derail the Obama campaign? Do you really think that the Republican party did not have investigators looking into the backgrounds of their opposition to find something to use against them? That nothing irregular or untoward was found regarding Barack Obama's birth, citizenship from birth or eligibility to serve if elected president by either the Republican Party or by Obama's Democratic Party rivals for the nomination should be enough to put this issue to rest.

Obama could post videos of his birth on YouTube with his mother popping him out on the steps of the Hawaiian State Capitol Building with Don Ho himself delivering the baby while singing "Tiny Bubbles" and the birthers would still howl fake.

They demand to be shown the birth certificate, oblivious to the fact that it's been released already, and it doesn't matter. They will never believe he's American no matter what.

Originally posted by praxis

Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
JUST PRODUCE THE F'ING DOCUMENT AND PROVE EVERYONE WRONG! If he had a real, legit birth certificate it wouldn't be a big deal. Look I've never paid much attention to this whole birth certificate issue but the way this country is headed i.e. the NWO push to start WWIII in the middle east, and all the other crap Obama seems more and more like an obvious plant.

Obama a plant?? Banish the thought:







Who does this joker swear fealty to?

That image is Photoshopped. Obamas shadow vanishes off into a clean line.
It's not a bad job, but whoever the artist was, he or she didn't try hard enough.

EDIT: I just looked closer... and I'm mistaken. When I'm wrong I admit it.
My apologies.

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Well, even if i am wrong about Orly, the fact still remains that he is still not showing his real BC. I point out again that not only has he not released his old records but HE ACTUALLY SPENT DAMN NEAR A MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORDS DONT COME OUT!!!!!! NOW I ASK YOU WHY WOULD HE GO TO SUCH GREAT LENGTHS TO LOCK UP ALL HIS RECORDS NOT JUST HIS BC??? THERE IS SOMEHTING TERRIBLY WRONG HERE AND OBAMA COULD PUT IT ALL TO REST WITH A SIMPLE DISPLAY OF HIS ORIGINAL RECORDS BUT HE DECIDES TO KEEP IT ALL GOING.

Originally posted by kingoftheworld
Well, even if i am wrong about Orly, the fact still remains that he is still not showing his real BC. I point out again that not only has he not released his old records but HE ACTUALLY SPENT DAMN NEAR A MILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORDS DONT COME OUT!!!!!! NOW I ASK YOU WHY WOULD HE GO TO SUCH GREAT LENGTHS TO LOCK UP ALL HIS RECORDS NOT JUST HIS BC??? THERE IS SOMEHTING TERRIBLY WRONG HERE AND OBAMA COULD PUT IT ALL TO REST WITH A SIMPLE DISPLAY OF HIS ORIGINAL RECORDS BUT HE DECIDES TO KEEP IT ALL GOING.

Someone is not paying attention! READ THE ABOVE POSTS!
The BC has been released, ZIP money has been spent "fighting it".
Obama hasn't "kept it going", people like you have simply because you CHOOSE to remain uninformed of the facts, AND you just can't stand the idea of Obama being President! THAT is the real issue, you simply can't accept that Obama won the election AND IS PRESIDENT despite YOUR disapproval!
The whole thing is BS contrived by Joseph Farah and other far right whackos to smear obama and manipulate the simple.

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There is not a shred of evidence to PROVE that Zero is even a U.S. citizen. The "birth certificate" his thugs posted on his website was proven to be a photoshopped fake.

HE IS NOT my President.. he is merely the de-facto liar in chief that is temporarily occupying the oval office.

His refusal to reveal even the most basic information about himself, spending of nearly a million dollars in legal fees to keep FROM showing a valid birth certificate STINKS like everything he has done.

IF he has nothing to hide...then why is he HIDING EVERYTHING??

Originally posted by expat2368
There is not a shred of evidence to PROVE that Zero is even a U.S. citizen. The "birth certificate" his thugs posted on his website was proven to be a photoshopped fake.

HE IS NOT my President.. he is merely the de-facto liar in chief that is temporarily occupying the oval office.

His refusal to reveal even the most basic information about himself, spending of nearly a million dollars in legal fees to keep FROM showing a valid birth certificate STINKS like everything he has done.

IF he has nothing to hide...then why is he HIDING EVERYTHING??

Again, all your post is repeating propaganda that you have willingly swallowed, hook, line and sinker. Sorry right wingers and fringe, uh, nuts!
Your whole premise is ridiculous, you have NOTHING but lies, propaganda and your hatred of Obama to go on.

reply to post by OldDragger


So oh great wise one... show us a real birth certificate..show us his college records, show us his passport records, show us ANYTHING which proves he qualifies under the U.S. Constitution to be President. You can't do it because he REFUSES to release any information.

Answer why he is spending so much money to keep from stopping a controversy that will NOT go away. I am betting its because he is not even legally a U.S. citizen much less natural born

You are the one that has been "punked" by the imposter in chief.

Originally posted by expat2368
reply to post by OldDragger

 

So oh great wise one... show us a real birth certificate..show us his college records, show us his passport records, show us ANYTHING which proves he qualifies under the U.S. Constitution to be President. You can't do it because he REFUSES to release any information.

Answer why he is spending so much money to keep from stopping a controversy that will NOT go away. I am betting its because he is not even legally a U.S. citizen much less natural born

You are the one that has been "punked" by the imposter in chief.

I can only laugh at your gullibility living proof that simple propaganda works on the willing.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic


Only he knows. And it is a private document. It is his choice and his choice ALONE whether or not to produce it. It could be that he won't produce it because no previous president has been required to do so.

Has there ever been another president in question - in regards to their being born here?
Just curious. If not - then perhaps that is why he is being asked to produce the document?

Originally posted by expat2368
There is not a shred of evidence to PROVE that Zero is even a U.S. citizen. The "birth certificate" his thugs posted on his website was proven to be a photoshopped fake.

Can I have a source for that statement? Not much I am asking for, is it? I mean a proper factual source

HE IS NOT my President..

Good for everyone . Noone is forcing you.

he is merely the de-facto liar in chief that is temporarily occupying the oval office.

Wrong! as per the constitution he is the current President of United States of America and there is nothing that suggests it is temporary.

His refusal to reveal even the most basic information about himself,

Perhaps you have not been aware but here are the documents
Link to Birth Certificate, certificate of his 1992 marriage certificate from the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics. His driver's license record from the Illinois Secretary of State's office. His registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Not to mention all of his property records.
Link - www.politifact.com...

And another source from Factcheck.org
www.factcheck.org...

spending of nearly a million dollars in legal fees to keep FROM showing a valid birth certificate STINKS like everything he has done.

Any source for this accusation?
Obama's lawyers haven't argued case one. Not once have these lawsuits gotten past a judge who is acquainted with U.S. law. All Obama's lawyers do is request (and receive) dismissals. A dismissal request takes about a half and hour to write and file. Obama has received about 10-15 dismissals to date, and several judges have called the lawsuits against him "frivolous". As far as I know both the lawyers working for President Obama are doing it pro-bono.

IF he has nothing to hide...then why is he HIDING EVERYTHING??

Apbsolutely, he has nothing to hide and he has not.


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