"Free Polanski" = Liberals gone crazy

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by GorehoundLarry

 

I have watched that film. Full stop what he did to the victim was wrong. I take this as an individual issue though. If she wants it dropped then i think it should be dropped. It is the woman who suffers from this outrage, it's not society. It's her pain and her's alone.

Agreed. It should be dropped. The woman is now 45...she has accepted it and forgave it. And it was consensual.

Never mind

[edit on 29-9-2009 by EmperorZeno]

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
And it was consensual.

Where are you getting that??

She said she felt disoriented and disgusted by his overtures and repeatedly told him "no." She faked an asthma attack and begged him to take her home. She said she cried in his car afterward.

www.cnn.com...

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No, it was rape. She said she told him "no" several times.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
I think the fact that it's more than 30 years old has allot to do with it.

He's clearly not a threat to anyone at this point in his life.

Though the state did not get it's form of punishment, at this point I think most agree he put himself through worse punishment by having the weight of this possibility with him the past 30 years. Plus he could not practice his craft in Hollywood.

Even the victim herself thinks he's been punished enough.

So, what's the point?

It's all about publicity for the LA DA's office at this point and of course the message to any future lawbreakers that they will hunt you down until you die blah blah blah.






[edit on 29-9-2009 by verylowfrequency]

I completely disagree. So because time has gone by because he fled - he should not be punished? Ridiciulous. He needs to be brought to justice! Period. And he was not suffering. He was abroad making movies and doing theater and making money and living the high life! All while a kid had to grow up with the pain of RAPE. Anyone who dismisses this and acts like its nothing and like the kid (now woman) has healed and moved on and she does not carry this with her forever, has no idea the affects of rape on a person!

The constant defense of animals such as this is WHY they keep getting away with their disgusting behaviors (crimes).

And im not shocked that the liberals in Hollywood are defending them. Most of them (elite hollywood people - libs/conserve/whaterver) are so screwed up, they cant see a screwed up person standing in front him. They all feed off each other.

Good thread Sky


[edit on September 29th 2009 by greeneyedleo]

Originally posted by DraconianKing
A forum moderator using child rape as a means to attack liberalism is absolutely disgusting and pathetic. When all these republicans are caught with their pants down with underage boys I didn't see you screaming about right wing extremism being the cause. How about the Lawrence King fiasco that went all the way into the Reagen White House? Did that have anything to do with right wing conservatism? No it did not! Sexual orientation, perversion and practices have absolutely nothing to do with what end of the political spectrum you are. The people who are supporting him are his friends and the Hollywood elite, their reason for standing up for has nothing to do with Liberalism.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by DraconianKing]

This is what I've been saying all along. Extremist doesn't equal perversion for children, whether it be extreme Right or extreme Left. It's about that specific individual (or group of individuals) being in a position of power with zero morals capable of disgusting acts having powerful and influential friends to bail him/them out. That's the common ground with Polanski and the Republican child rape ring:

www.armchairsubversive.org...

In the case of Polanski and in the Republican child molestation ring linked above (and the other link to a thread on ATS I mentioned previously) it's all about the elite protecting their own. It's not about sex (as any rape victim can tell you), it's about power. This just goes to show that some people, when they get to the top of the political, financial or media hierarchy, believe that they can disregard the human rights of those "below" them with no consequences whatsoever. Polanski raped a minor. He is a mentally twisted individual. But I still say that political stance has nothing to do with it.

(And for the record I'm nowhere near being a defensive liberal. I don't consider myself to have much of a political agenda since I believe that ultimately BOTH Republicans and Democrats are puppets on a string.)

I think some of you need to consider why she won't testify and why she wants this dropped. Imagine being raped at 13 and then spending the next year being called "Little Lolita" and a "temptress". Your friends won't speak to you anymore because they think you are a raging she-hoe that makes old men sleep with you. Can you imagine that? Rape victims in this country get put through more crap than rapists do. It always because "Well she shouldn't have gone there", "Here shirt was too low", "Her skirt was too short", "Her butt was sticking out" etc etc etc on and on. We know the drill. I can't blame a woman for not wanting to go though that.

In a thread like this in an open forum, it pays to remember that there is a segment of the population that are pedophiles, have raped, and want to be free to have sex with young teenagers without consquence.

They'll tie their cart to this horse and flog it.

So...this guy's mother died in the Holocaust, and so automatically we can forgive him of child molestation? Or statutory rape, or whatever you want to call sex with a girl of 13.

This is almost as bad as Charlie Chaplin, another 'movie celebrity' (whatever that means) who was dragged into court more than a dozen times allegedly for child molestation, involving BOTH little girls AND boys under 11 years old...and yet nobody did a damn thing about it...except maybe the old PAYOLA ($$$$$) to the famiy, which is ALSO the case with Roman Polanski's child molestation charges...

Then there's that obnoxious little worm Allen Koenigsburg (aka I-Gotta -Woody- for -the- Kids -Allen) who also got away with something of this sort with little 4 year old Dylan (read all the sordid details in the book: What Falls Away, by Mia Farrow)

All three of these obnoxious warts on humanity have one thing in common: They Are an Embarrasment To All Jews....

There are only two sides in this. You either side with a child rapist or the victim and the law. You would have to be one sick person to side with a child rapist or defend him.

Originally posted by antonia
I think some of you need to consider why she won't testify and why she wants this dropped.

I think you're a little confused about this case. She already testified and he plead guilty, back when it all happened. It's done. She isn't being asked to testify, the trial is done. He fled his before his sentencing. But again, the trial was over long ago. She no longer has any say in this case...

With the Felony Fugitive charge on top of the Rape conviction, he will likely die in prison at his age.

It is just plain insane people are defending him.

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by Jezus
That is just ridiculous...

Really, Jezus? You think that's ridiculous? That could have been anybody's daughter. Anytime a sick bastard child rapist decides to victimize a child, it's a crime against society. Sometimes, children who are molested and raped become so mentally disturbed, that they become child rapists themselves. It perpetuates a cycle, and one person being victimized can turn into many down the road. I try to stay away from these topics, since it makes me so angry when all the internet chomos come out of the woodwork to argue semantics of calling them "pedophiles" and declaring how misunderstood they are from the safety of their computer. All extremely transparent.

Polanski is not a pedophile...

This case has nothing to do with pedophilia...

If all people involved want it dropped it should be dropped.

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If she doesn't have to testify I don't see what she is crying over then. (not mentioning the rape as that should be fairly obvious) From what I understand he'll probably be sitting in the pookey for less than a year anyway.


[edit on 29-9-2009 by antonia]

Originally posted by Aeons
In a thread like this in an open forum, it pays to remember that there is a segment of the population that are pedophiles, have raped, and want to be free to have sex with young teenagers without consquence.

They'll tie their cart to this horse and flog it.

Amen to that. They ALWAYS flood these threads, and i get furious reading their posts. All i can say is if it happened to my child, the moment it was brought to my attention i would do EVERYTHING in my power to find the guilty party, beat them until they could no longer struggle, then i would make them bite a curb and kick the back of their head until there was nothing left between my heel and the curb. I would much rather do the time in jail, then let the individual have a chance to go free on some technicality. I think child rapists should be given the death penalty, quickly and painfully.

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She doesn't want the attention on herself, since she has a family and doesn't want it dragged out in front of her kids, which is understandable. The media frenzy is the reason she wants it dropped. But he was already convicted, you can't drop it after that. He fled to france before his sentencing, i think they should have pursued him back then. But i won't ever say it should just be let go cuz he fled long enough, again, that is no message to send all these other pedos...

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I don't watch the guys movies because I think he's a sick freak. I have to wonder how much of this is just posturing on the part of others though. It's been 30 years. Why didn't they come after him all those years ago when he was in France? Unless the french are child-rapist sympathizers I don't see them protecting him.....

[edit on 29-9-2009 by antonia]

Originally posted by antonia
I have to wonder how much of this is just posturing on the part of others though.

I can't imagine the motive though, other than distraction from something else. Either way, this guy admitted guilt, and fled. I didn't see many people protesting when they hunted down all the nazis that committed attrocities and fled. When you commit such a horrendous crime, no amount of time on the lamb should earn forgiveness. Just how i feel.

It's been 30 years. Why didn't they come after him all those years ago when he was in France? Unless the french are child-rapist sympathizers I don't see them protecting him.....

I believe it had to do with extradition laws and such, he was a french citizen. On the other hand, it's likely there are a number of french politicians who are child-rapists themselves, just look how many we have here.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by 27jd]

Roman Polanski is a pedophile, because he drugged and raped a 13 yr old girl when he was 44 YEARS OLD for Christ's Sake.

Liberals are like totally irrational children who want what they want and they want it now. Want proof. When you ask them how they will pay for public healthcare they say who cares how we will pay, because we all want it. Its like a kid at Walmart screaming I want a candybar at the top of her lungs until everyone wants to tear their own ear drums out.

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by antonia
I think some of you need to consider why she won't testify and why she wants this dropped.

I think you're a little confused about this case. She already testified and he plead guilty, back when it all happened. It's done. She isn't being asked to testify, the trial is done. He fled his before his sentencing. But again, the trial was over long ago. She no longer has any say in this case...

The victim didn't want to deal with the media frenzy all over again (who would?). While I disagree with Skyfloating about political labels being brought into this I do agree with him that the elite backing Polanski are pathetic and WRONG. Say for example Whoopi Goldberg or Harrison Ford's daughter had been the victim? Would they really be clamoring for the "forgiveness" of the perpetrator?