Are Most UFO Sightings Plasma Life Forms?

This is a subject I became aware of following the tehter incident threads. As I have began to do more research, I have found a vast wealth of information out there, yet in the UFO community, there seems to be scant discussion of this possibility.

What if what we think are extraterrestrial ships, are in fact living plasma creatures that inhabit our world, mainly the ionosphere of our planet, that exist throughout the known universe.

When you do the research, you find that there is a great deal of evidence that this might be true, yet the scientific community remains mum on the issue.

Why?

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

Life-Like Qualities of Plasma: Bohm, a leading expert in twentieth century plasma physics, observed in amazement that once electrons were in plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were a part of a larger and interconnected whole. Although the individual movements of each electron appeared to be random, vast numbers of electrons were able to produce collective effects that were surprisingly well organized and appeared to behave like a life form. The plasma constantly regenerated itself and enclosed impurities in a wall in the same way that a biological organism, like the unicellular amoeba, might encase a foreign substance in a cyst. So amazed was Bohm by these life-like qualities that he later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the electron sea was "alive" and that plasma possessed some of the traits of living things. The debate on the existence of plasma-based life forms has been going on for more than 20 years ever since some models showed that plasma can mimic the functions of a primitive cell.

Bohm was no fringe scientist, he was a highly respected physicist.

www.answers.com...

The theories of dark matter has became a household joke aimed at the world of physics. It seems like a rebirth of some new ether idea, a catch all to explain what can not be explained, but when you start to look at plasma, it makes a great deal more sense.

www.dapla.org...

The Theory argues that dark matter is largely in the form of plasmas of exotic particles. It has been shown in laboratory experiments over the past ten years that minimal ordinary plasma cell-systems can be generated in the laboratory. The Theory therefore suggests that minimal dark plasma cell-systems were generated within this dark halo/biosphere in the early Earth and predicts the existence of terrestrial dark plasma life forms which evolved from these minimal plasma cell systems.

These life forms would be as varied in scale, structure and intelligence as carbon-based life forms - as different as a microbe from a whale; a mosquito from a tiger; a giraffe from a crocodile; an ant from a human being. Their degrees of intelligence and awareness were as different as a centipede's awareness to the awareness and intelligence of homo sapiens. The taxonomy of these plasma life forms is wide and varied. Some of these plasma life forms have interacted with us in the past (intentionally or unintentionally).

The entities that we have loosely identified as ghosts, angels, jinns, demons, deities (for example the Marian apparitions in the atmosphere), aliens, biological UFOs, fairies and sightings of the recently deceased (on the surface of the Earth) are characteristic of these predicted exotic plasma life forms from interpenetrating dark plasmaspheres or counterpart Earths. They constitute an ecology of plasma life forms that evolved throughout Earth's history and sometimes formed symbiotic relationships with the carbon-based life forms that we are more familiar with. Homo sapiens evolved carbon-based bodies that formed symbiotic relationships with some of these plasma life forms (indicating a type of symbio-genesis). When the carbon-based bodies died, the bioplasma bodies (resulting from the symbiosis) continue their existence in the counterpart Earths.

Hmm, could it be that the very spark of life is a plasma life form?

Are we seeing scientific evidence that we very well might have living souls?

Hmm, I like that: UFOs are actually living creatures. Right, so, given the fact that they don't seem to mind coming into our atmosphere and, if we believe they come from space, flying around in 'the void', not to mention the fact that there are unidentified objects seen under water (what are they again? USOs or something?); would mean that they are practically indestructible wouldn't it? So they would have to be the most adaptable, physically advanced (either extremely complex or simple in their genetic makeups) living creatures known to life as we know it, right? Kewelle!

Ramadwarf on living UFOs

reply to post by Ramadwarf Philes


Yep, that is right, they would be far more adaptable then our current carbon based life forms as we know it. Plasma is by far the most prevalent form of matter in the universe, and it exists everywhere.

www.burlingtonnews.net...

UFOS- ETHER SHIPS

By mid 1958 the results of the two men's photographic sessions were clear to see. In just one year they had captured over 100 anomalous images on film. Some showed dark objects, others showed extraordinary ellipses looking like living cells. while still others resembled more classic UFOs. All appeared to be of considerable size and were framed by physical features such as desert landscapes, hills and people.

Ya have to read the articles. I can't quote the entire articles, and they are probably looking for traffic to their web sites.

Zorgon has talked about this a lot on here. He calls them "critters".

Here's one thread you can look at:

Are some UFO's animals that live in space?

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science fiction has been hinting at organic ships for years, one of my favourite books when I was younger: Alien Earth by Megan Lindholm, was all about bio-organic spacecraft.

Also seen in a few episodes of Star Trek NG, and was quite prevalalent in Farscape, one of the coolest shows ever made.

hot tip: most Science fiction isn't fiction at all.

99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".

Interesting thread and, although many reports describe actual structured craft, the idea of some unidentified objects being strange new
life-forms doesn't sound too outlandish (to me anyway).

There have been some interesting discussions about the nature of plasma down the years - Dr James E. Mcdonald's rebuttal to Philip Klass's article about Plasma theory is an absolute classic:


Under 'Science' section at this link:
www.ufologie.net...

Title:
UFOs - An International Scientific Problem, Paper Presented at the Canadian Aeronautics and Space Institute Astronautics Symposium, Montreal, Canada, March 12, 1968, James E. McDonald, The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona.
Cheers.

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reply to post by johnmhinds


You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Originally posted by karl 12
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

So you believe that the thread title is correct and that most UFOs could be "Plasma Lifeforms"?

I don't even know where to start with telling you how moronic that statement is.

reply to post by poet1b


I don't think that "most" UFO's are plasma life forms, but the more I read, the more I'm being persuaded that these live forms exist. I'm still on the fence really, but I'm leaning more towards the possibility of their existence instead of the lack of. For one thing, I've seen some strange things myself, in the sky at night and they did behave like a living organism. And I'll admit that Zorgon's critter talk makes sense to me.

So, S&F for your post. I'm not sure what percentage I think these things make up for when it comes to UFO sightings, if they do indeed exist, but I think it's very likely that they're out there!

Originally posted by johnmhinds

Originally posted by karl 12
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

So you believe that the thread title is correct and that most UFOs could be "Plasma Lifeforms"?

I don't even know where to start with telling you how moronic that statement is.

Thread title says "most". You're the one that took that as meaning 99.9% of all sightings.

You also stated that as fact without providing anything to back it up. Now anyone can easily call that move of yours "moronic" so you might want to refrain from calling others morons.

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Something I remember from the time I was a kid, and I have seen several people on these threads talk about, it that, on a clear night, outside of the city lights, you stare up into the sky for awhile, and you will start to see little white dots that looked like stars, moving around, stopping, starting, changing direction. I have observed this many times myself, and I think most people who have ever bothered to spend some time looking up at the stars have observed.

Foo fighters that started following Airplanes during WW I, and WW II, what are they? These types of phenomenon have never been explained, except for those people who have never spent any time looking at the stars who prefer to keep their heads buried in the sand, and listen to what they are told.

reply to post by poet1b

Something I remember from the time I was a kid, and I have seen several people on these threads talk about, it that, on a clear night, outside of the city lights, you stare up into the sky for awhile, and you will start to see little white dots that looked like stars, moving around, stopping, starting, changing direction. I have observed this many times myself, and I think most people who have ever bothered to spend some time looking up at the stars have observed.

That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about!

the OP is definatly onto something here. My experiences at skinwalker ranch an other hotspots have lead me to believe these are plasma based or electrically based forms of life! It/they likely existed before man did and range in degrees of intelligence. The majority likely have a rudementary animal like intelligence.

How foolish of others to assume all life must be carbon based.

electronic fog and forms of ball lightening may also be intelligent plasma based life forms.

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Originally posted by poet1b
Something I remember from the time I was a kid, and I have seen several people on these threads talk about, it that, on a clear night, outside of the city lights, you stare up into the sky for awhile, and you will start to see little white dots that looked like stars, moving around, stopping, starting, changing direction. I have observed this many times myself, and I think most people who have ever bothered to spend some time looking up at the stars have observed.

One possible explanation for that might be something called autokinesis:

en.wikipedia.org...

Autokinesis is a visual illusion, which makes it appear as if a stationary light source is floating within the viewer's range of vision. It can occur under certain conditions, especially on dark nights in areas with few visual cues (such as lights or other illuminated objects or landmarks). When a small, dim, and fixed light source remains within visual range for an extended period of time, this phenomenon can occur, making it appear as if the light source were moving.

Regarding the OP, I don't think plasma life forms are impossible, however I've never seen any evidence for them. Most of what I've seen that people call "critters" or plasma life forms, look like out of focus objects to me. As for what most UFOs are, here are some statistics:

Identification Studies of UFOs

One study:
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Another study:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/efd6b37a835d.png[/atsimg]
(See source for more details)

The plasma critters would be a subcategory of the unidentified UFOs, if they existed. I think it's safe to say that the shuttle tether video showing "plasma critters" really doesn't show plasma critters at all, I would put them in the "dust" category in the studies above. Personally I think the percentage of UFOs which can be attributed to plasma critters is pretty close to zero. That doesn't mean they don't exist, I'm only saying I've never seen any evidence for them.

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I know what you are talking about when you are looking at a light and it starts to drift, and it doesn't take much time to figure out what is going on. If you are looking at numerous lights, like the sky on a clear night out in the country, they all drift. When all the stars are stationary, but one dot of light is moving, it is not this phenomenon you describe.

If you had a better link than wiki for your study that tries to claim what percentage of UFOs have been identified, it might be credible, but wiki certainly is not.

As far as the tether video goes, there is no credible explanation that has been provided for what we see in that video. Ice particles, effluent dumps, thrust vector firing, none come close to explaining what is seen in the tether video. We can continue to discuss that on the link covering the tether video if you would like.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by johnmhinds
99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".

That's probably THE most ignorant thing I've seen on here. Seriously.

Originally posted by johnmhinds
99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".

Care to back that up with some proof? Or will this remain a "99.9%" claim that has no basis in reality whatsoever?

What the hell.
I'm supposed to be the one giving proof here?

Did any of you stop to ask the guy claiming that he had evidence that most UFOs were "Plasma Lifeforms" if he had any proof?

And i'm the ignorant one here?

And you wonder why the UFO community is laughed at.

Evidence?

It is all over the place.

Here is another article which explains how plasma exists within our atmosphere.

amasci.com...

Since it's not impossible that aerogels can form naturally, atmospheric
life forms might exist which are based on aerogels and electrostatics
rather than on water-gels and ionic chemistry. The gas-based analog to
ionic chemistry in solutions is plasma chemistry. Since unlike water, air
is an insulator and can support long-range electric fields, an
aerogel/plasma life form might propel itself by manipulating e-fields.
Vertical motion would be easy to accomplish, since the atmosphere has a
natural vertical e-field which would apply up/down forces to a negatively
or positively charged aerogel object. By spewing negative ions, a
organism would rise as the ionized air fell.

The existence of aerogel/plasma organisms would explain some reports of
distant moving lights at night, encounters with "will-o-the-wisps,"
bioluminescent patterns in the air over the Indian ocean, and reports of
ball lightning when thunderstorms are lacking. An aerogel creature would
be as invisible as an underwater ice-cube, and might only be detectable
when it causes slight optical distortion of background objects. If their
density was low enough, small aerogel fragments might be present in
quantity in the atmosphere without being noticed, since they would have
about the same index of refraction as air. If they were composed of
approximately the same material as natural aerosols, chemical analysis of
the air would miss them.

SEE:
www.roswellrods.com... high-speed sky creatures

This would fit with the classic example of the numerous sightings that were called foo fighters.

www.project1947.com...

DURING THE last months of the war the crews of many B-29s over Japan saw what they described as "balls of fire" which followed them, occasionally came up and almost sat on their tails, changed color from orange to red to white and back again, and yet never closed in to attack or crash, suicide-style.

One B-29 made evasive maneuvers inside a cloud, but when the B-29 emerged from it, the ball of fire was following in the same relative position. It seemed 500 yards off, three feet in diameter, and had a phosphorescent orange glow. No wing or fuselage suggesting an aerial bomb or plane was seen. The ball of fire followed the B-29 for several miles and then disappeared just as mysteriously as it had appeared in the dawn light over Fujiyama. Some B-29 crews said they could readily lose the ball of fire by evasive maneuvers, even though the ball kept up with them at top speed on a straight course; other B-29 crews reported just the opposite. Nobody could figure it out. Far to the south, a B-24 Liberator was at 11,000 feet over Truk lagoon, when two red lights rose rapidly from below, and followed the B-24. After an hour, one light turned back. The other kept on -- sometimes behind, sometimes alongside, sometimes ahead about 1,000 yards, until daybreak when it climbed to 15,000 feet and stayed in the sun, like a Jap fighter seeking game, but never came down. During the flight, the light changed from red to orange, then white, and back to orange, and appeared to be the size of a basketball. No wing or fuselage was observed. The B-24 radioed island radar stations to see if there were any enemy planes in the sky.

The answer was: "None."