NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T.

reply to post by easynow


It's interesting at least ..notice how the stars disappear in the other version as well? I don't know the official story, does NASA admit that there are different versions of these pictures? They clearly are different versions.

sorry... wrong video link in my previous post...... here.....

reply to post by mcrom901


Good post, thanks!

Jose Escamilla's has been accused of many things and what I have read I think a lots of people actually accuse him about faking and making up the evidence but here he clearly has a good point. I'm going to look images with crosses a lot more closer now thanks to this .

reply to post by Luppakorva


I see I didn't explained it as I should, again.

If what they did to the photo was what I said (using a mask to make some areas of the photo less affected by the light) then we see only the borders of the mask, those were the areas where the change between the two areas (masked and unmasked) touched each other, the centre of the image would have been covered by the mask, and if it was the the centre was really overexposed.

I don't understand what you say about the sky, the sky does not look changed, it looks the same above and below that line, the line looks independent of any other possible changes.

reply to post by ArMaP


Thanks for the explanation .

About the sky, you're right. My mistake I mixed it up with another image. Sorry about that.

And the masks, yes.. that's exactly how I understood it. I don't know that much about the photo editing how it was back then.. ...But ok, let's pretend center was very over exposed, you add this mask to it. I take it it's a solid one, ...very same way you select area in the photshop and add effect into it, it affects to the whole area equally?

What I can see this mask did, well it filled the area with blur. Looking into the crater though, it's easy to see left side has more light and has been more exposed than the right side. The mask over the left side is darker, so most likely they wanted to make left side of the crater not to be so overexposed. Seems that your answer makes lots of sense there indeed .

Ok ...so then let's look at the left bottom of the picture where we can see two "slices" of masks, why to use mask over there? Makes no sense to me. Also, if you zoom up and look above the crater where the right border of another one of those masks is, there's some strange things to be seen, it looks like it has been airbrushed from the corners to fit into it's place but still it doesn't sit too well if you view it closely. I might be completely wrong here but it just looks strange to my eye.

Then very left end of the picture. You can see straight line from down to the bottom of the upper mask which starts in the middle of the picture. Again, why to do that for?

So, when I look into this image it just raises more and more questions for me . I'm sure there can be good explanations to each of them but just wanted to point them out.

I found more interesting stuff out from this image as well, will show image of those in another post soon.

Also, have you seen this is something that has been done to other images or is this the only one where masks can easily be seen?

So, that another anomaly in this image that I was talking about is here:




If you zoom into this part of the image and look closely to the right part of it. You can see faint horizonal brighter "road" and to each side of it, there seem to be objects airbrushed or "masked out". If you zoom enough, you can see one to stand up and ..it looks like it's been airbrushed and you can even see that it is front of the crater which you can see as well behind of that object? So it seems it's actually standing up from the ground and covering that crater behind of that object almost completely?

I know.. I might go over the point here where I zoom it up too much and the pixels start make those "anomalies" because I zoom it up too much and it's nothing else than pixel mess. But this one really made wonder that what's going on with this image. It's like almost every part of it is modified and reconstructed.

And as I was wondering before, what is that "roadlike" line which is going from the bottom right towards the centre ?






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some interesting videos......

Karl Wolf - Disclosure Project



Donna Hare - Disclosure Project




LUNARCHITECTURE VOL 1

SHORT CLIP SHOWING RARELY SEEN IMAGE ALLEGEDLY TAKEN BY APOLLO 16 IN LUNAR ORBIT, SHOWING AN ANOMALY CLAIMED BY SOME TO BE A 'CLOUD' OF LIGHT TRAVELLING OVER THE LUNAR SURFACE TOWARDS LOBACHAVSKY CRATER, WHERE, AFTER REACHING THE CENTRE OF LOBACHAVSKY CRATER,THE PHENOMENON INEXPLICABLY DISAPPEARS OR DISSIPATES. ALSO SHOWS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS VERSION OF THE MORE FAMOUS ANOMALY CALLED 'TOWER' IN LOBACHAVSKY,AND A COUPLE OF THE MORE COMMON 'STANDARD' IMAGES SPAT OUT BY SEARCH ENGINES WHEN SEARCHING FOR 'ANOMALY IN LOBACHAVSKY' OR 'TOWER' IN LOBACHAVSKY. THIS IMAGE, AS16-73-H-1113,IS MORE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS 'LIGHTS IN LOBACHAVSKY',WHEN YOU CAN LOCATE IT THAT IS! HAPPY HUNTING ANOMALY SEEKERS!!!, , , , , , , , , , , EMF29768

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LUNARCHITECTURE VOL 2 (EMF29768's CUT)

VIDEO COMPILATION OF IMAGES OF THE LUNAR SURFACE SHOWING UNUSUAL OR ANOMALOUS OBJECTS WHICH SUGGEST THAT INTELLIGENCE AND DESIGN MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIER CREATION, AND RULING OUT COMPLETELY THE 'NATURAL ORIGIN' HYPOTHESES OF THESE 'CONSTRUCTS' AND LENDING CREDENCE TO THE 'ARTIFICIALITY HYPOTHESES' ,WHICH TENDS TO SUGGEST THAT THE 'MOON' AS WE CURRENTLY ARE LED TO BELIEVE BY THE POWERS THAT BE IS IN FACT 'DULL AND LIFELESS AND UNINHABITABLE' IS ACTUALLY THE TOTAL OPPOSITE, AND IS PRESENTLY OCCUPIED AND HAS BEEN FOR THE RELATIVELY RECENT HISTORY, BY THE BEINGS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SIGHTINGS OF UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS THAT ARE REPORTED EVERY SINGLE DAY SOMEWHERE ON EARTH,IN EVERY COUNTRY BY EVERY RACE AND COLOUR AND CREED OF BEINGS THAT INHABIT THIS WORLD.ENJOY!ENJOY!ENJOY!

Google Video Link

edited to correct the 2nd disclosure link.... tnx eeasynow

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Unidentified Lunar Objects

Welcome to the Veritas Show, WHERE THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. I am your host, Mel Fabregas, and I sincerely THANK YOU for stopping by. I deemed it important to create the equivalent of a "Veritas Show 101", so that you know exactly what the show is all about. As a matter of fact, if you are new to this site, I highly recommend you listen to the first show or read below. I have a requirement for anyone reading or listening to our show: BE SKEPTICAL BUT DON'T CLOSE YOUR MIND. Also, I hope you listen because YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE, BUT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KNOW. Aired Friday, January 16th, 2009 Allan Sturm has found literally hundreds of ULOs with some appearing as towers or spires, domes near terraced vertical walls, stacked geometry with spheres sitting on top, pathways leading to and from objects, clusters of objects resembling industrial operations, highlights forming geometric patterns, pipes and pipe grids intertwined or wrapping over each other, wheel shaped objects with support arms, and ziggurat looking structures with annexes, just to name a few. Lunomaly Research Group www.lunomaly.com... Our mission is to stimulate conversation and debate in public and academic circles by revealing new photographic evidence of what is commonly referred to as "Structures on the Moon". We call these structures and other lunar anomalies "ULOs" (Unidentified Lunar Objects).

Google Video Link

Lunar Sightings - Volume 1 "Dreamland" Preview - Moon Structures

An example of my image analysis research of Apollo era photography showing what appears to be structures or bases on the moon. This is a controversial topic and I hereby make no claims of conspiracy, cover-ups, or the like by governments, organizations (i.e. NASA, JPL, etc.), or individuals. Instead of pointing fingers, let's instead offer amnesty to anyone that may be aware of this or other supporting evidence. No harm, no foul to those that come forward. I hereby claim that all images presented are faithfully reproduced and not altered in any way other than by cropping, adjusting contrast levels, de-saturation, or enlargement. No sharpening or coloring has been applied. It is up to you to research the images presented and arrive at your own conclusions. If you take the time to establish the contacts as I have done and dig up these same high-resolution archive images, I guarantee that you will see that the images presented here are not a hoax - at least on my part.

Google Video Link

Nasa Lunar Orbiter Moon Anomalies Video
www.vidoemo.com...

Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by mcrom901

 

First of all, that first picture from that tower, wow ..never seen that before. That tower would have to be HUGE though ..enormous indeed to that big.

cheers..... also check this.....

Originally posted by Luppakorva
I take it it's a solid one, ...very same way you select area in the photshop and add effect into it, it affects to the whole area equally?

Yes, the mask usually a piece of paper cut with the shape that the technician wants to correct. Sometimes they need to do more than one correction (for example, an overexposed area inside another overexposed area but in which the effect is not that strong), and in those cases both mask are used during some time, after which one of the masks is removed and the other remains for some time more.

What I can see this mask did, well it filled the area with blur.

I don't notice any unexpected blur, besides the natural blur (or more correctly, lack of detail) from being farther away.

Ok ...so then let's look at the left bottom of the picture where we can see two "slices" of masks, why to use mask over there? Makes no sense to me.

Maybe the left side of the two craters was overexposed.

Also, if you zoom up and look above the crater where the right border of another one of those masks is, there's some strange things to be seen, it looks like it has been airbrushed from the corners to fit into it's place but still it doesn't sit too well if you view it closely. I might be completely wrong here but it just looks strange to my eye.

I don't see anything, but I don't understand exactly which crater you are talking about, so maybe I am looking in the wrong place.

Then very left end of the picture. You can see straight line from down to the bottom of the upper mask which starts in the middle of the picture. Again, why to do that for?

I don't know, but I find it strange that they needed to use a mask up to the left border of the photo.

Also, have you seen this is something that has been done to other images or is this the only one where masks can easily be seen?

It's the first time I have seen it, but I haven't been looking for it, as it only becomes more noticeable when the contrast of the image is changed and I never do that, as it only makes the image look worse and (or so I thought) it does not show anything new.

Now I have to look at other photos using this "technique".

reply to post by ArMaP


Hi ArMaP,

Thank you for your answers. Once again very helpful.

These images represent but a few of the many anomalous images available from NASA archives. The noted features in the images below suggest a far more interesting picture of the moon than is typically painted by mainstream astronomy, which characterizes our satellite as a stark, bland, lifeless rock. So far no adequate explanation has been presented, by either the space agency or the astronomical community, for the curiosities contained within these official NASA photographs. The hypothesis that features such as the "double craters" and "square crater," which appear on Lunar Orbiter III frame 85HI and Apollo 10's AS10-32-4822, respectively, are the work of intelligence, is as valid as any standard theory.

Below are several enlargements of what I consider to be some of the most compelling anomalies in available lunar imagery. The first image shows a strange triangular "crater," Ukert, the unusual shape of which was first noted by Richard Hoagland of The Enterprise Mission in a Lick Observatory photograph (below left). The Pentagon's recent rush mission to the moon, dubbed Clementine, returned images of Ukert which confirmed its angular internal structure and three bright spots spaced approximately 120 degrees apart (below right).



The following image presents quite a puzzle. Peppered throughout the lunar landscape are dozens and dozens of "double craters," the likes of which can never be expected to be seen in any standard model of the moon. Further confounding is the fact that the "doublets" are almost always divided at their midpoint, and are similarly aligned. The doubling is clearly not an imaging error effect, as not all of the features in the image are duplicated. [4/19/00 revision - See "'Double craters' likely to be imaging artifacts" for opposing view] Note, also, that the two similarly sized large craters in the center of the image appear to have a hexagonal shape. Obviously, something is amiss in this photo. It has been suggested that the doublets are not craters at all, but rather two-pronged "braces" supporting much larger structures suspended above the lunar surface.



Following is one of at least 12 known versions of Apollo 10 frame AS10-32-4822. (Exactly why there are a dozen or more versions of this frame is outside the scope of this brief overview, though that fact begs some explanation by the space agency.) Though it is inexplicably blacked out in the official NASA image catalogue, frame "4822" can still be ordered from the space agency. The image shows a number of striking anomalies, not the least of which is a vast region of rectilinear structure looking for all the world like an extremely dilapidated city (hence its nickname "L.A. on the moon"). Other strange features include a peculiar square "crater" scored by razor straight notches and surrounded by honeycomb like "mountains."



www.controversial-science.com...

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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by easynow

Nice picture... looks familiar

That was the day we lost the directory of high res Apollo
tiff when NASA zappped them while we were downloading them ArMaP was there

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Yes very nice picture !

hope you don't mind, i made a copy of it when i seen you post it in another thread. i didn't know that was the from the TIFF collection and if the rest of the disappearing pics were anything like that it's no wonder they freaked and pulled them.


should look more like this ?


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Wow, you're correct . Should indeed. Now I just have one stupid question for you .. Why to do that for ?

Originally posted by easynow

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by easynow

Nice picture... looks familiar

That was the day we lost the directory of high res Apollo
tiff when NASA zappped them while we were downloading them ArMaP was there

[edit on 10-10-2009 by zorgon]

Yes very nice picture !

hope you don't mind, i made a copy of it when i seen you post it in another thread. i didn't know that was the from the TIFF collection and if the rest of the disappearing pics were anything like that it's no wonder they freaked and pulled them.


should look more like this ?

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Hey any chance I coud get TIFF version of this one? I find it to be very interesting and would love to take a closer look.

from history channel's 'ufo files' series..... the 'black box secrets' documentary..










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Originally posted by Luppakorva
Hey any chance I coud get TIFF version of this one?

As strange as it may look (or maybe not), the TIFF file reappeared, and can be downloaded from this page.

You can see that there is a JPEG version "From ISD TIFF images", and this is the first time since that "disappearing act" that I have seen one of those TIFFs again.

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You know what, now it would be good chance to inspect the previous and the "reappeared" one in case Zorgon for example has the old one.

Edit:
I can't type today. (once again)

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