NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T.

holy fake pictures !.. security breach red alert !

you guys all want me to take these pics somewhere else...that's for sure. this thread is about revealing the truth about the Moon and E.T. and NASA. showing that NASA has indeed faked pictures goes hand in hand with the secrets about the Apollo missions and the transcripts.

it's all about finding the truth

[edit on 2-10-2009 by easynow]

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Well, it's your thread, I think your opinion of what is and what is not on-topic has much more weight than anyone else's opinion.

So, how (or where) did you got that horizontal line in the photo, what type of enhancement did you (or anyone else) did to that image from the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal?

reply to post by ArMaP

The "dirty" version of AS12-46-6826 comes from this site, not NASA.
www.spacearchive.net...
It was made by the owner of the site who says this;

SpaceArchive.net is always in search for new pictures not yet present on the archive so, if you are in possession of images that can't be found in SpaceArchive.net, do not hesitate to contact me or e-mail me a good scan accompanied with all available data for the image.

Many pictures were restored by me, restoring the original colors, enhancing the contrast, removing scrubs, scratches and dust maks. I hope that this work helps to remember in the best way the epic of space exploration and the men who were involved.

The "tampering" is on the part of Davide De Martin. He is using scans from photographs and "enhancing" them. They are not from the original negatives.


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Originally posted by easynow
you guys all want me to take these pics somewhere else..

I merely asked if you thought it might be a good idea and obviously you don't and prefer to leave them here so that's fine with me, it's your thread.

Have to say.. here we go with the original one I think:

While I was looking into that one. Take a look at this. First of all, why the flag is not standing up proud like it was in the apollo 11 pics and videos? Secondly ..look that shadow of the flag, something's seriously wrong there?

Edit, here I think there seriously is image tampering

www.lpi.usra.edu...

[edit on 2-10-2009 by Luppakorva]

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The flag is supposed to have a horizontal bar holding it up, either it slipped out or it broke I suppose.

What's wrong with the flag's shadow? It looks like a flag shadow to me. As you pointed out the flag is drooping so that's why it's not wide.

Originally posted by easynow
holy fake pictures !.. security breach red alert !

you guys all want me to take these pics somewhere else...that's for sure. this thread is about revealing the truth about the Moon and E.T. and NASA. showing that NASA has indeed faked pictures goes hand in hand with the secrets about the Apollo missions and the transcripts.

it's all about finding the truth

[edit on 2-10-2009 by easynow]

easynow, easynow! Don't get flustered by the various negative responses, it's par for the course.

BUT, I do take issue with your statement that "NASA has indeed faked pictures". As a lunar researcher since the early 1980s and having looked at thousands of NASA lunar photos in print and on the Internet I'm requesting that you provide a link to a credible source that has been able to prove that NASA has ever faked a single lunar photo.

And, please, no hearsay as that is all we've ever gotten on this subject.


[edit on 2-10-2009 by Skeptical Ed]

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Ok, maybe I'm blind and quality is not too good to zoom it up, but I was thinking the shadow would naturally start from the bar or shaft of the flag (whatever it is called)

my guess is you're suggesting that the actual shadow that can be seen is from the flag and the bar of the flag is so thin there pretty much is no shadow at all?

reply to post by Luppakorva
Yes the shadow from the flagpole IS visible close to the flagpole then it becomes harder to see the further from the pole you go, until you get to the wider shadow of the flag itself.

Originally posted by Luppakorva
Have to say.. here we go with the original one I think:

Many, many years ago this photograph was paraded as proving something to do with metaphysics but I couldn't find any sources to entertain you with.

However, I could be wrong but I thought the blue envelope was connected to ionization.

[edit on 2-10-2009 by Skeptical Ed]

Originally posted by Luppakorva


While I was looking into that one. Take a look at this. First of all, why the flag is not standing up proud like it was in the apollo 11 pics and videos? Secondly ..look that shadow of the flag, something's seriously wrong there?

Edit, here I think there seriously is image tampering

www.lpi.usra.edu...

[edit on 2-10-2009 by Luppakorva]

There was a power outage on the stage where it was filmed and the fans just came to a dead stop!

Seriously, though, the flag is held up with stiff "rods" and if too much force was used, the astronaut could have simply snapped the support and let it hang.

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No.
It's a problem with the lens. A smudge or something. It's visible in the center of all of the shots from AS12-46-6813 to AS12-46-6852. On bright places it's bluish, on dark places it's reddish.
www.lpi.usra.edu...

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I think that is actually in the lense I'm talking about the glow or whatever .. The reason I posted that pic was to show the "tampering" ..if you look back you can find the very same picture posted in here.

reply to post by Skeptical Ed


Very true, could have happened indeed. Never seen the flag down in any pic though so it just caught my eye.

I know you guys have been looking into these for years. Myself ..It's just a few months ago when my interest woke up to find out what really happened out for real. So ... I hope you guys don't find out my posts to be silly/stupid and you're not frustrated about those answers of mine which are answered in other threads. I really try to google and search them up before asking, trust me .

And thanks for answering

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How about the later picture?

Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by Skeptical Ed

 

Very true, could have happened indeed. Never seen the flag down in any pic though so it just caught my eye.

I know you guys have been looking into these for years. Myself ..It's just a few months ago when my interest woke up to find out what really happened out for real. So ... I hope you guys don't find out my posts to be silly/stupid and you're not frustrated about those answers of mine which are answered in other threads. I really try to google and search them up before asking, trust me

.

And thanks for answering

It's a pleasure, Luppakorva. We all had to go through the "pupa" of our curiousity to emerge with a little more knowledge than when we started. I'll forever be grateful for google myself. It's usually my first stop. Remember that google has images, in case you weren't aware.

Originally posted by Luppakorva
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How about the later picture?

Please refresh my memory as the link you provided is taking me to a totally different picture than the first time I clicked on it. Which one is the "later" picture? What are we supposed to see?

Originally posted by easynow
@Zelong...i don't have a Pdf reader at this time so i can't answer your question but i hope to hear from LunaCognita on that. thanks for the info and the link.

The cover of Luna's copy in the Video has not yet been released. It has no strokes through 'confidential' nor any of the declassification notices. Where ever Luna got that from it was a copy BEFORE it was declassified and released.

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First of all many thanks for your answer. Yes google is quite familiar for me with it's image search as well and it has been showing lots of great things for me so far and to be honest pic I found via google images took me to this forum .

But about the picture I was talking about:




How I take it, the left side of the picture is supposed to be spacecraft. But what I find to be suprising, it ends exactly to the point where the "horizon" begins. It's like the picture is cut of from that point. Pardon my "french" my friend, I'm from Scandinavian country and English is far from that native language of mine. So I hope you understand what I'm talking about. But so.. If you check it out ground and spacecraft do end into the very same spot. Correct me if I'm wrong and it is shadow indeed but not the craft I'm watching?