New doubts over Hitler's Suicide....scary stuff.

Originally posted by lynchr1
Ah yes! south pole.... thats exactly what I was thinking.... what was that place called? or supposedly called? The secret Nazi South Pole base?

was it New Swabia??

new schwabenland

I'm almost certain I met a much older Adolf Hitler without his mustache around 1961 or 1963. That was in Illinois......the land of Lincoln.

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You know what comes to my mind when i think about colonizing the Moon for a long period of time? Where will you get your food supply? Making trips back to earth in a flying saucer to pick up or would you start farming on the Moon? Maybe this is what Hitler did? lol hopefully not

My guess is that Adolf Hitler was simply a Hermaphrodite maybe?
Hence why he never married and was never a touchy feely person with Woman or Men. Just wanted to kill them all instead.

reply to post by DraconianKing

Agreed I think it is more then plausible that he along with some of his higher SS members fly to either there or some where in SA after the war.

friend of mine is the grand son of albert speer. seems kinda introverted about it, though

Wasn't he suffering from Parkinson's near the end? Personally, I don't think he lived. However, I pose two questions for you.
1. Was there dna pulled from his body wherever he ended up?
2. If dna was taken, do you think they would attempt to clone?

Originally posted by The Chez
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Also, while I'm at it, to all the flowery anti war folk, we, the Brits whooped Hitler's ass, and with the help of America, we beat this evil. It's something our country is still proud of today. I would so hate the possibility he's still out there, so please, if anyone cares to give this one a good debunking, I'd be much obliged!

Chez.

haha you never whooped German's ass boy, Stalin did. You just came in germany to cover up, protect Ford's factories, Realeased French from Vichy/Nasi 's Tyranny, stole Nasi technologies/scientist and some others dark thinks...Well yes what I tell you is from a Governement perspective and I can understand that guys like you live in the illusion that they win over germany easily. But I agree on one point even without URSS , America would had won the war but at what price?(of course a lot of brave american and English lost their life and we should never forget this but the fact is Russian defeated Hitler )

as for the skull my guess :

1 Hitler flee to Antartica
2 Hitler was a transexuel

Originally posted by ROBL240
It wouldn't surprise me if he extradited to Russia with the deal that if they spared his life he'd give them important scientifical discoveries made by his scientists during the war. Such creations as reversed UFO technology, the harnessing of the Atom etc.
Hitler wasn't a Dictator he was a manipulator, he mislead a entire nation to follow his beliefs and almost succeeded, i'm sure him going to Russia in exchange for his life was better than being bombed or captured by British/American/Russian soldiers.
More than likely he's dead now from natural causes, but what Russia know technologically wise they have Germany to thank.

I would certainly be surprised. Hitler broke a nonaggression pact with Stalin and then invaded the USSR. That's why the Russians fought to be the first to invade Berlin and why they insisted on occupying it for decades of extended punishment. Stalin hated Hitler with a passion as he made a fool out of Stalin. The Russians likely couldn't find his body after it was destroyed and simply picked up a burned corpse they found and declared it to be Hitler. Who in Russian would possibly have disagreed with Stalin?

Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by The Chez

 

Uhh, actually 120.

One word, Paperclip.

If he went anywhere, it would be the U.S.A.

Yeah just look at the Paperclip 's photo, there is a small guy on the left side who has a similar face to hitler.ANd BTW paperclip is just the top of the iceberg.

reply to post by The Chez


Chilling the bones ?????

He actually lives in the south american jungle with Elvis and Marylin Monroe, and Bin Laden.

Michael Jackson told me so.

Little moustache was a Rotschild....Maybe he escaped Europe then.

But how old would he be by now ?

Living so long is absolutly chilling......

BTW don't forget to connect your strange fears with Nethaniu's comments at the latest UN asssembly.

Thing is this...

Hitler was of no use to anyone. He was a paranoid ego-maniac by the end of the war, who had surrounded himself with sycophants after the failed bomb plot.

He wasn't even a good strategist - he reacted far too slowly and did not listen to the accounts and reports coming in from his commanders. He also did not devise any of the weapons the Germans were working on.

So he was of no use to any of the allied powers, and I fail to see why any of them would have kept him alive any longer than they had to.

The accounts of his death have all been consistently reported over the years by the survivors who were in the bunker - I summise that they could have kept the actual burial location secret, and pointed the russians either at the wrong spot, or that the skull is Brauns.

Originally posted by king9072

thanks to British, French, American and Spanish interests.

I think you have forgetten some countries but anyway you made a good point.

reply to post by neformore


I agree with you. Hitler was of no use to anyone at the end of the war. The most plausible thing is that the west and USSR thought they killed him but didn't and he secretly fled. But I doubt the secret services of the world would all have been fooled by Hitler. I mean honestly, Hitler probably didn't even know about half the things the German army were working on.

This much we do know for sure about the supposed end of Hitler....

-None of the interrogated witnesses actually positively identified his corpse as it was taken out front of the bunker to be conveniently cremated along with allegedly Eva Braun's. No, instead they only heard a shot followed by a body rolled up in a rug being carried out.

If the Americans wanted that body to be Hitler's, you'd better believe that the terrified remaining staff surrounded by pissed off Russians and U.S. military police were going to say anything that was told to them to say.

This ploy complete with sound effects and visuals smells of Nazi slight of hand in which they were known to employ when situations favored it.

-A dead Hitler look alike (as he had several) was found floating in a water tank inside the bunker.

This here is a smoking gun in itself... Think about it.

-At first, Stalin claimed to not have found Hitler even after a bunker inspection.

This might very well have been the truth and a amateur intelligence mistake that he made. He made verbal blunders all the time by the way and this was probably why he met his end which is now in high speculation with recent evidence coming forth, but that's another story all together. At any rate, very soon after the Americans arrived on the scene to quickly spin the story in the direction of the suicide that academic history would have us all believe. Their motives for doing this could be picked from a huge list, none of which I need to speculate about here. But take your pick.

-Some former Nazis like Hanna Reitsch who flew in on the make shift Tiergarten runway and out the same way testified under interrogation that an extra JU-52 with pilot was waiting for someone on the 28th of April just before she left.

Many have speculated that this was a ruse and it was indeed her who flew him out. Either way, there was indeed a strong possibility for escape right up until the first week of May 1945. And there were plenty more planes coming and going beside's hers at the time. As you historians may recall, a lot of Berlin collapsed quickly from the Russian assaults. But not so with the extreme inner core of the city. This area turned into a reverse Stalingrad for the Russians and was where the heaviest fighting occurred with a few isolated exceptions. I've been to Berlin and to this day the governmental buildings in that area still look like swiss cheese. The Nazis fought tenaciously in this area for a very good reason. My theory as well as many others is that they were buying their Fuhrer time.

The Nazis would have still had vast resources to call forth even up until their surrender. One must never forget that through their blunders they still regularly pulled off ingenious logistics feats and methods of subterfuge which became a necessity as the Allies eventually gained the upper hand in the skies.

And as to any members here who think that the Israeli Mossad would have made light work of his surviving person, think again. There were areas in South American countries occupied by Odessa that were armed to the teeth, strongly allied with the local governments, staffed by trained and devoted Nazis. To top it off these communities were self contained fortresses to boot whose locations were chosen do to their remoteness, local resources, and highly defendable locations that did not lend much if any support to the would be infiltration team. But I'll admit, that if the Mossad had tried to attack such compounds in order to snatch up former Nazis (and there is no evidence that they ever tried such things), it would have been one firefight I'd pay to see.

My own gut tells me that he and several others (including Bormann) made it out alive and well. Where exactly they went is further cause for speculation and would require another new topic for discussion. But South America did turn up so many sightings of exNazis now didn't it?

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reply to post by 3DPrisoner


Speer did make it out and ended up living in London until he died.

Has anyone considered Hitler going to Switzerland? This is where the nazis kept alot of their gold stocks = comfortable living. Plus im pretty sure there'd be people there willing to hide him.
As for Odessa and nazi slight of hand tricks, he could quite easily have made everyone believe he was in south america and only jumped the border to switzerland. Pretty easy way to hide.
Switzerland was of course neutral during the war and has a history of secrecy regarding it's banking sectors. I'm sure it has other secrets too! Much closer to Germany making escape easier and more in line with Hitler and his views than south america.

Also people should investigate any involvement with the roman catholic church on this issue. There was a lawsuit in the last few years, in America i believe, regarding one of the first concentration camps built in Siberia.
It was put in place to see how many prisoners could be killed in what amount of time and was manned by catholic priests. These priests would use knives and clubs to kill prisoners and reportedly held competitions to see how many people a priest could kill in one night.

The evidence brought up in the courtcase claims the record somewhere around 1,500 lives taken in one sitting by a priest using a knife and a club.

Look it up!

Hitler escaping is quiet a scary thing, although I guess it shouldn't be. If he has escaped and is hiding out somewhere, I doubt he has influence over anything anymore. He will probably die quietly, if he hasn't died already.

Pretty interesting thread though.

Hitler used the Nazi Bell technology to time travel. He is more than likely alive in our time operating out of Antartica and working with the TPTB to help form a one world government (new world order).

That should about cover it.

reply to post by The Chez


Dude ur scaried? I hope you wont learn about operation paperclip... # i just told u. Good luck accepting the truth!

If he had survived the end of the war, I could guarantee you he is six feet under by now. The guy would be about 120 or so years old (I believe he was born in 1889).