G20 MILITARY dudes? snatch guy from crowd into unmarked car - Illegal beyond belief

Luke Rudkowski I do believe is NOT the young man who was "snatched". Wearechange has posted a video today of Luke "In Pittsburgh". The young chap in the op video - has short hair, provided he can change his clothes and get a hair cut, I don't think this is him.

Just Sayin'.

I have had interesting experiences with LEO's while I was wearing BDU's as I used to do.No matter what type or vintage,I found I was treated surprisingly well,like no ticket once when I was driving at least twenty over the limit.I just KNEW I was gonna get the ticket,but after the ID check and a little chit chat,I was on my way,shaking my head in disbelief.No search,nothing.I thought I'd get the fine tooth treatment,since it was at the time of Tim McV.For what it's worth department.
Also,'no badge,no cop',is my rule.Those guys would have been seen and treated by me as thugs if they tried that with me.I don't go to protests.So it would be me being hauled off as a bystander in the wrong place/wrong time.As soon as a hand touched me,it'd be reflex time,and I ain't yer run of the mill hippie.I never ran from a fight.
If someone went to this spectacle with a crew cut and some digi camo,could they be arrested for officer impersonation if they had the reflective armband or a fac simile?Used to be a false badge was required for that charge,no?Same with service/rank patches on BDU's,right?

I found out more on this.. before I head out and go get some shots..

Yes in pgh I am..

Anyway...

Someone I know stated where was working is one of those buildings you see in the vid where the kid gets picked up..

The incident stated as follows.

There were protesters around walking and the police came up and started making them disperse, after that didnt happen they shot tear gas...(notice someone said earlier it was a fire.. well wrong get facts start or dont say anything.) then they came up and took this kid..

After this on Baum there were more protesters and such and they had it blocked off prob about 5 6 blocks..
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Today said person I know stated the following.. There are windows all over oakland that are broken all over.. He also stated hearing on the street that this is going to get alot worse.. I will not be part of the protests but i will be there to gather images and maybe some video considering i didnt get my hands on a camcorder..

I will maybe make a post or update warrens post on the g20 update post later tonight...

The way it seems everyone I know is telling me not to even go near this area but as an american i feel it is our duty and our right to speak up for what we believe in.. Even if it means not agreeing with international bankers coming to my town.

reply to post by Hack28


This may be true, but it must have been blatant enough. If I was in his situation, I'd go quitely. Sort it out, go home. Lesson learned. The only reason why the "police officers" in this video acted the way they did is because they had a reason to.

I just had another idea, maybe the kid went AWOL from the service? LOL

And I would like to add that it is disheartening to see the residents cheering the cops on in the above-linked news video. "Kick some ass!" the one guy roared. Wow. They assume the cops are going to be in the right, and obviously don't realize the danger that can come from the side they are cheering. If the police start indiscriminately pepper-spraying people, they might be the ones to breathe the (sometimes asthma-causing) particles. And these people may not even know the whole story or be aware of the unjustified brutality that happens at even peaceful protests.

Sad, even embarrassing, that violence is encouraged by these citizens. There's your action movie culture for you.

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how the hell does any one know these arnt military, the british SAS was routinly scruffy and not in regular uniform when "kidnapping" in nothern irlend. All is i am saying is in special regiments they are not always so strict on the codes of dress or usual regular army practises. How do you know these wernt some special arm of that new homeland security force u guys have over in the US. This video cannot just be passed of as fake because you have no proof that it was fake at all.

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Just curious if your name means your in the forging industry as i am!! Cause toughest SOB's forge.
Maybe its an American term but what are L.E.O's when reffering to cops?

Confirmed hoax, but then some people will believe anything But then invariably the people who think this is real, and the ones who think 9/11 was staged.

reply to post by Hack28


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Originally posted by focuswrckrakow
The only reason why the "police officers" in this video acted the way they did is because they had a reason to.

You shouldn't go making statements like that, and spreading misinformation, without knowing for sure. Read my above post, listen to Wendy Binion's story. She was snatched by police for no good reason. (Or maybe Wendy and the RNC last year was a test run. I saw it partially as such.)

reply to post by ukman2009


Why would the British kidnap in Northern Ireland? Which is theirs? It is the North that love the English.
Also judging from the video i think its safe to assume that "special ops" guys would be able to get their fat ass out of the car. Watch the driver he has trouble leaning forward in the front seat when he is trying to get out and he decides to # it and stay seated.
Pre emptive reply: If he is the driver why did he open the door and attempt to get out? Special ops know their roles a bit better.

Originally posted by firepilot
Confirmed hoax, but then some people will believe anything But then invariably the people who think this is real, and the ones who think 9/11 was staged.

Who confirmed this as a hoax? Do you have any source for this information? Would like to know.

Originally posted by firepilot
Confirmed hoax, but then some people will believe anything But then invariably the people who think this is real, and the ones who think 9/11 was staged.

No reason to compare the two. Please refrain from reductio ad absurdum.

also at DarkCrow, Thank-you for the LEO answer appreciate it!

I remember well being on riot control when in the Army. What did we have to do?

We were trained in all the spots not to hit someone with your stick, so you wouldn't cause serious injury. What spots? Well by the time they were done training us, we were wondering where in the hell you were allowed to hit at all. No joints, not the head, not under the arms, not in the ribs, etc... you were trained even when being attacked, to be as careful as you could.

We were trained that these were civilians, and even though they were rioting, we were there to protect them.

I remember one riot in San Fran, we were covering a gate at the Presidio, a huge anti-war crowd had gathered, we had erected a metal barrier (those metal "fences" that only stand maybe 3 feet high). We were told do NOT attack, do not react, do not talk back, but do not allow them to break the line.

We had balloons filled with urine hurled at us. They tore down the barries and made a huge pile out of them. My buddy standing to my right, who was black, had folks in his face, yelling at him if he enjoyed still being a slave, was called all sorts of racists names. We were spat at, yelled at, cussed at, by those civilians we were taked to protect.

So, again... what are they supposed to do if people yell physical threats? Say they have a bomb?

You act as if those who are trying to keep peace and protect folks are evil wicked people, who are beating people over the head with clubs. They were putting someone into a car for crying out loud! Probably defusing an escalating situation. The crap these folks have to put up with, you probably don't fully realize how restrained they actually are. Try being in a riot squad sometimes, perhaps your attitude will change.

Have you never heard of the IRA, i dont think they like us very much LOL take a look at some of the interigation tactics of the SAS in nothern ireland in the 80's and early 90's

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reply to post by StoneGarden


That video is unbelievable. Who the hell do those officers think they are!!??

The U.S. is now a jackbooted, fascist, twilight zone.

reply to post by ukman2009


Yes the real Irish Republic Army i am aware of them, being as i am from Limerick. The IRA was fighting the North and the English oppression. Your earlier comment may have been mis-understood but it sounded like you were saying the English were kidnapping the populous of Northern Ireland, which is not the case. Also if you are comparing the guerilla tactics of the IRA and their fight for freedom against the English oppressors to the US army or private forces or what have you thats insane. One was made up from the population and didnt exactly do riot control.

reply to post by ExPostFacto


Hello...Long time reader , first time writer.......I just wanted to advise that these videos are real....I work in pittsburgh and the reason for all the security is not just because of the protestors but because since the g20 summit is taking place and 20 of the worlds leaders are here...including obama....and i was seeing that people were stating that the military looked fake as well.....there is army reserves in town and national guard.....the reason for the different looking acu's is because around this area we have different counties w/ different SRT UNITS ( special response teams ) which are basically swat teams....each county has their own uniforms for their teams and they usually wear prior and present bdu's / acu attire...

yes i can see where you are coming from, but what i am saying is that normal people were also targeted, the SAS thinking that they were tied in with the IRA, and also the US government is treating protestors and anyone who dosn't fall in line as "homegrown terrorists".
I just think that this video could be plausible and not faked.

Andy Mcnab is a very good source if u read some of his books, alot of bad stuff went down as you probably know and the irish freedoms were restricted that is now what is happning in the US

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reply to post by ukman2009


Yeah true statements cant really argue with ya there. We have heard the term terrorist been used to describe everybody in the past few years. babies not allowed on planes cuase they share the same name as terrorists, de sensitize us to the term so we will more readily understand how a guy yelling is a terrorist.

I think you make a great point how they are using techniques we have seen throughout history. Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat.