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Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by esdad71
Since there is no evidence of explosives, what else do we have?
This statement is a blatant and flat-out lie. There is overwhelming evidence of explosives as I described in my post in this very thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
All you're doing is showing your ignorance and denial by ignoring all available evidence and calling the first responders liars, and the video that corroborates them a fake.
See what denial disorder does to a person? Do yourself and those around you a favor: talk to someone about your disorder. You will feel like a new person afterwards.
Originally posted by esdad71
It is a lie in the eyes of yourself and a a very, very.very small percentage of Americans.
Originally posted by esdad71
Tell you what. Go to a NFL or MLB game and stand out front with a sign that says the government pulled off 9/11 with a shirt that says Thermite rocks!
Originally posted by esdad71
How about this...go visit 5 separate firehouses in NY and ask your question and see what happens.
Also, how are you spreading awareness by not talking to anyone but 'promising' they feel the same?
Originally posted by talisman
esdad71
a little off topic but it relates to some comments that were mentioned earlier
Basically we have 2 entities here:
1.We have Osama and his Al'Qaeda.
2.We have the Industrial Military Complex of the United States.
Now who historically "thought" or "imagined/envisioned" a plane flying into the Pentagon/The World Trade Center?
2 is the correct answer.
Do you honestly believe that both independently thought of the same plan?
[edit on 27-9-2009 by talisman]
Originally posted by esdad71
Originally posted by talisman
esdad71
a little off topic but it relates to some comments that were mentioned earlier
Basically we have 2 entities here:
1.We have Osama and his Al'Qaeda.
2.We have the Industrial Military Complex of the United States.
Now who historically "thought" or "imagined/envisioned" a plane flying into the Pentagon/The World Trade Center?
2 is the correct answer.
Do you honestly believe that both independently thought of the same plan?
[edit on 27-9-2009 by talisman]
Simply...yes.
The industrial military complex in the US is present now and will be for years to come. From what I have read and understood in certain books is that the US was going into Afghanistan before 9/11. It was already planned. As well as Iraq. Look at a map. They surround a certain piece of property known as Iran. These guys do not need a reason as long as they can keep making money.This is global.
As far as how could then envision,as terrorists, crashing planes into buildings?
1. A little known author known as Tom Clancy released a book in 94 called Debt of Honor. Check it out. Has something to do with terrorists crashing planes into the Capitol or the White house....like they wanted to do on 9/11.
2. This would be the same year that Ramzi Yousef suggested Project Bojinka and one year after he planned the WTC bombing in 93.
3. I am also pretty sure that there have been a few prevented attacks since 9/11..thank god for waterboarding..j/k
It is a lie in the eyes of yourself and a a very, very.very small percentage of Americans.
Have any statistics to back that up, or are you just making things up, too?
I show no ignorance in standing up to you and your rhetoric. I am also not denying evidence. I watched it and my opinion was that nothing was provided that would help me to understand.
I watched it and my opinion was that nothing was provided that would help me to understand.
From IMpressme
He is right in his eyes, because his mind cannot comprehend explosions or the sounds of explosions in these credible videos that are showing explosions, or reading these credible eyewitness statements that went on record as of witnessing or being caught in these explosions at the WTC.
If a person really believes that our government couldn’t possibly commit such atrocities then the persons mind cannot be convinced, because the mind knows this person will not be able to handle such a shock. The brain is quite capable of preventing him, or her from seeing and hearing the truth, the brain is very clever, it’s defenses modes will click in when necessary.
There is a name for this it is called “selective seeing” and “selective hearing” it prevents people from seeing the truth, or facts with their own eyes and ears. This is very real!
It was that moment, you know, "Get away", and I looked up... and... it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. And all the things started peeling in on itself and... I mean, there was an umbrella of crap seven feet over my head that I just stared at. Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running and the [explitive]'s hitting the ground behind me and the whole time your hearing "thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom." So. I think I know an explosion when I hear it."
Originally posted by bsbray11
reply to post by esdad71
You're not being reasonable at all. You're actively trying to pick apart what this witness is testifying to, when he's no different than any other witnesses of anything else that was seen that day. Just because he happens to have seen things you don't want to hear about, you don't like him. I listened to the whole interview myself and his story doesn't contradict itself. Though, if you would like to believe that, I'm sure you will, since it's much more comfortable than to believe he's telling the truth. Or you can believe he's delusional, can't reason anymore, belongs in a looney bin, etc., etc. Believe me, I have heard it all before and I think it's disgusting to what this man experienced that day, that people like you won't even listen to him without trying to immediately discredit what he has to say. Your slip really shows, it's so predictable how you will categorize witnesses based simply on whether or not they heard/saw explosions/bombs. Anyone who heard/saw a bomb is obviously a nutter. Whatever floats your boat, dad.
[edit on 27-9-2009 by bsbray11]
Originally posted by esdad71
Everything you just wrote was opinion with no fact however you feel that you are right? People like me?
This is about hearing explosions so please address what I wrote about the man you posted.