Harder To Believe In - God or Aliens?

People own nuthin� in this world, but they think they can�
If it ain�t about gold or money, it�s about Afghanistan�
Wanna know the truth?�Stop thinkin� about flowers and open you�re eye�s. 9/11, The biggest hoax, broken towers and lies.
I ain�t go stop, you thought president Bush was the sh/t...
Let me found out why he�s making deals with an Alien bitch.
People eating popcorn, behind the TV, believing everything they see, but now listin� to me�
It�s controlled man�Something is really wrong with you�re brain if you believe anything they say about some hijacked planes. Try to read between the lines, and see much more, try to see what this crazy world really got in store�
But I don�t blame us humans, we got a mind of our own, that�s the only reason why I was able to write this poem.
My only mission is to help people reach God�s faith, cause, that�s the only way to gain a ticket to the 4th gate!



[edit on 17-7-2004 by Italiano]

I agree with some of what you say Italiano. You're right, it's not about profits or pursuits - it's about people, not just Afghanistan, but all people. It's not about knowledge - it's about wisdom. It all comes down to one's faith. Faith is everything - most importantly, faith is a gift.

Harder to believe in god or aliens? I find it much harder to believe that this thread is 30 pages long. What more can be discussed? All the information was that same after page 5.

What more can be discussed? All the information was that same after page 5.

Man, posts like that annoy me.
As if people with slightly different opinions than the one posting before should just shut up so you won't have to read the same opinion again.
Wake up.
ATS is big and fortunately everyone gets a chance to ventilate what they think, even if others think so too.

[edit on 22-7-2004 by Jakko]

Agreed Jakko. One-liners really have no place here. Particularly ones that have nothing to do with the topic.

First let me say it's easier for me to believe in aliens than in "God".
Second which "God" are we talking about?
Third what's your definition of "God"?

And that is my question. Why? If God is an alien, then who created him? If there is no God, why do some choose to beleive that the human race was placed on earth by a bunch of reptiles from another galaxy? Who created the reptiles and their galaxy? there is certainly less "evidence" to support that notion than simply believing in God. At least there's the Bible to support that traditional belief.

If you theorize "God" was an alien and then imply that there must have been "a God" that created something(that alien for example) then you're already throwing away the notion that God was/is God. Because it is my understanding that the Christian God was and is and there was nothing before him and he created man etc.
But let's play your little game then; who created God?

By the way does the bible say God created the universe?

Is the bible really evidence to support the existance of God? Which bible are you referring to? The translation of the translation of the translation? Or the translation of the translation etc.? Maybe some of the revised version or whatever? The one that said Mary was a young girl or the one that said Mary was a virgin?
Lots can be lost in translation and whats to say translators weren't biased in some way?

Anyway isn't there mention in the bible of the "Nefilim", giants or something? Apparantly the literal translation of that word is: "Those Who From Heaven To Earth Came". Maybe the bible supports the existance of aliens rather than "God" as a spiritual being of super natural power?

Humans like to believe they're more than they are. They like to think there's more to life than there is. Humans are also very impressionable. It's understandable people would believe in something like a "God". Back then people didn't know anything, everything was a miracle to them.

Inpregnating a virgin is no miracle, we can do that.

Do you believe there is only one God? Then why do other civilizations believe in other Gods? It makes more sense that all these Gods were representatives for the alien race sent down to communicate with our people.
Because, if we are all "God's" creations, why didn't he give us all the same word? Why didn't that God visit other civilizations? It doesn't make sense at all.
If God created homosapiens, who created homo hibilis and homo erectus?
If God was only in one place on earth, how come people learned how to communicate through text all over the world?

I believe in evolution, but I'm starting to believe that we did not evolve from apes.
We had a little help from our "God". According to an ancient civilization called the "Sumerians".
xfacts.com...
xfacts.com... (I particularly like the "ooparts" part of that page)
Apparantly a civilization over 6000 years old yet they knew the sun was the center of our solar system and they also knew all the planets in our solar system.
hometown.aol.com...
I'm sorry if I tend to believe people who seem to know what's around them a little bit more than people who write things down like a fairy tale.

I'm beginning to lose my train of thought so I'll just wrap up with this:
If the existance of God could scientifically be disproved, would it be made public? If there was undeniable proof and it was the official word that humans were created through genetic engineering to serve as slaves for extra terrestrial masters.. Think of the repercussion that would have! Millions of people will have their beliefs yanked out from under them and they would fall.. HARD!

I should have thought of this topic if I knew it would get me this many replies lol

There is a place where you can meet the angels. This place is everywhere, just that not everyone can gain access to it. it's the same for every form of life, here or anywhere else in the universe. God? Sure, but perhaps in our case there is an intermediary.

While the evolution theory sounds very realistic, it is also possible that we have been implanted in this planet and we are being watched by alien civilizations to study how they evolved.

I know that we are not alone. I know that we are being denied progress and knowledge that would create solidariety and would fuel peace.

Originally posted by WisdomMaster
I know that we are not alone. I know that we are being denied progress and knowledge that would create solidariety and would fuel peace.

I'm curious about your thoughts on us being denied progress. Can you expand on that a little?

I am coming late into this topic but i find it fascinating, i am an aetheist and do not believe in god or that god would be an alien. I do find it easier to believe in aliens however as i do think that its quite possible that there is a universe parallel to ours with perhaps superior beings

Aliens versus God

Both have:

Numerous sightings
Numerous eyewitness accounts
Allusions to physical evidence
A mythology of sorts

Problem is, with God, all of them happened thousands of years ago, when men still thought thunder was a sign the Gods were angry....

In addition, Aliens have

Credible eyewitnesses, such as high ranking military, ex-presidents, doctors, lawyers, etc.

Numerous reams of documentation showing government programs related to aliens.

Photos, videos, ancient art references. (to be fair God has one out of three here)

You decide.....

Originally posted by WisdomMaster
There is a place where you can meet the angels. This place is everywhere, just that not everyone can gain access to it. it's the same for every form of life, here or anywhere else in the universe. God? Sure, but perhaps in our case there is an intermediary.

While the evolution theory sounds very realistic, it is also possible that we have been implanted in this planet and we are being watched by alien civilizations to study how they evolved.

I know that we are not alone. I know that we are being denied progress and knowledge that would create solidariety and would fuel peace.

I think that god is ALL and that ALL is divided in many different dimensions. We are all a part of GOD. It's interdimensional. Creation of the universe must be an explanation to complicated for any humans to understand. I think our world in the third dimension, is a place of learning to achieve perfection and returning to the source thats is higher level of ALL (God). I think everyone has a soul, even the aliens, and that everyone's goal is the same. People with high knowledge incarnated on earth to help humans find their real reason for their presence on earth. But humans, are a young race who have a lot to learn....
That's funky, I know....that's what I think

www.users.bigpond.com...

Here is an article (one in many others i've read) it explains what I think...

Amelia
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Aliens versus God

Both have:

Numerous sightings
Numerous eyewitness accounts
Allusions to physical evidence
A mythology of sorts

Problem is, with God, all of them happened thousands of years ago, when men still thought thunder was a sign the Gods were angry....

In addition, Aliens have

Credible eyewitnesses, such as high ranking military, ex-presidents, doctors, lawyers, etc.

Numerous reams of documentation showing government programs related to aliens.

Photos, videos, ancient art references. (to be fair God has one out of three here)

You decide.....

This of course is subjective to who you talk to...My father is a minister, so to say that people only have visions of god thousands of years ago would seem incorrect to someone like him. He has been on a few missionary trips to Africa and Mexico and the things he as witnessed have no rational explainations.

There are god-like sightings all the time, it just depends on who you ask.

I'd say it's easier to believe in a God then Aliens...

I believe illegal Aliens exist though... haha, I know. Bad joke..

He has been on a few missionary trips to Africa and Mexico and the things he as witnessed have no rational explainations

I would think that the conditions humans must live in there, have no rational explaination, if there is a God, and he is the of the loving/caring variety...

Originally posted by Gazrok

He has been on a few missionary trips to Africa and Mexico and the things he as witnessed have no rational explainations

I would think that the conditions humans must live in there, have no rational explaination, if there is a God, and he is the of the loving/caring variety...

Tue, I've gone on one trip with him to Mexico when I was about 16. We went to villages where some of the people had never seen a white man before. the conditions were beyond 3rd world living. So, anything that creates a better way of life is considered an act of God to them.

But, at the same, I know of things that my father (and I) witnessed that go way beyond bettering the lives of peoples living conditions. I don't really want to give details about the acts themselves, becuase I already know there are those who would either dismiss me as lying, or say that there is a rational explaination for any of those incidents. So we'll just leave it at that.

the only thing many ppl can agree on is this as sum 1 stated out if god created us who created him and this goes back infinitly and if aliens created us who created them and this is infinite as well thats all i can agree on does any 1 else agree and if its all 1 of those infinite things then i can only imagine that when the universe was created and when it falls in on itself or when it whatever it does at the end i beleive that because things seem to go on infinitly and cycle infinitly

i wish ppl would understand that the meaning of life is infinite meaning infinite possibilities and infinitly gonna happen and cycle infinitly

Here is my take on things and I have had this idea in my head for a very long time. Why is it that if you believe in God you have to believe that we are the only sentient beings in the universe. Just as there are million different creatures on this planet living under the same sun, why do we believe that there is no way that the very same God that created all of this could not have created another different (or same) form of life on another planet? I believe that the Bible is God's guide for how he wants us to live our lives on Earth and how things will end on Earth. I also believe that being the great Maker of all things that he could have created other life on other plantes in his own image or another image. The beings there have the same "Bible" as we have on Earth but it is for their own civilization. I certainly don't believe that in the myriad number of galaxies out there, that we can be the only "planet" where any type of life exists.

[edit on 9/17/2004 by sgtcaldwell]

Close your eyes...............all you see is pitch black. Before anything was created this was how it was like. Just pitch black. There was absolutely nothing then all a sudden God is created? How is that possible? If you close you eyes and think a lot about it, it feels weird. Im a new member

No one can prove the existence of God. God lies beyond logic and human comprehension. The proof of God can only be experienced for oneself; subjective proof. Aliens, however, are logical, and have objective proof.

For me personally, it is easy to believe in aliens and god, in fact the word "believe" is wrong itself. Do I look at a blue sky, and say "I believe the sky is blue" - No. I know the sky is blue. In the same way, I know aliens and god exist.

If I deny the existence of aliens; I deny my own existence. If I deny God; I deny all that is.