its the papop!!!!!

whats this freaking huge gun!!!

Damn that looks like one of those guns from Halo!!

its supossed to use 5.56mm rounds,,,and has a 35mm granade launcher,, what a beast!!!

you can even see around corners with it ,,cause of the built in cam,,that has a direct video link with the dudes ,,ahem shades i guess,,

its supossed to interact with the soldiers fancy head gear ,,,

they even got a smaller version,,,

a weapon for future soldiers?????

This is the French equivalent to the OICW, PAPOP stands for "PolyArme, POlyProjectiles. It is a 35 mm grenade launcher with a 5.56mm rifle. It does have electro-optics that can be connected to a helmet sight or transmitted to HQ. Work has been done by GIAT and FN, among others (FN was a partner in the AAI proposal for the OICW.) The PAPOP uses a 35mm round because the French believe a smaller round cannot be effective. The 200 g round must have a lower muzzle velocity than the 20 mm OICW, and thus a shorter range (although the attention to recoil abatement suggest a much higher veloity than the 40mmx26R). Also the PAPOP has a three round tube magazine rather than the 6 rd box mag of the OICW. The explosive round is especially interesting because it can be programmed with different fragmentation patterns. This would reduce the minimum safe arming distance of the grenade.

The PAPOP is essentially a French version of the OICW.66 Like the OICW, this rifle is of a 5.56 x 45 mm caliber. The main difference between the two systems is that the grenade launcher on top of PAPOP is a 35 mm projectile. However, it is supported by a digitized state of the art individual support system similar to that of the American "Land Warrior". A project with the acronym FELIN is developing a system of add-on modules (separate but compatible with PAPOP) that provide the soldier

"with the ability to detect targets by day and night to a range of 300 m; identify friendly troops (IFF); use remote sighting to aim and fire from behind cover; designate targets; and transmit video data that is received on a helmeted mounted display".67
The PAPOP grenade system can be programmed at the instant of firing to optimize a lateral or frontal fragmentation pattern on the target area. The grenade weight is 200 grams. The weapon incorporates day and night sights, a laser range finder, and several digitized programmable features. The French believe that a 35 mm grenade is the minimum size required to meet their lethality requirements. It should be noted that while most high velocity, launch-fired spin stabilized grenades are 40 mm, the Russians have developed a 30 mm grenade with a round weight of 348 grams and grenade weight of 275 grams.68


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I was gonna say that, from the info you mentioned, it sounded like an OICW, and it doesn't look unlike one either.

You'd think they could reduce the size a bit, but I suppose if it doesn't weigh so much, it's all good.

that Gun resembles the ones that appeard in the film Aliens, you know the pulse rifle's

Aliens I loved that film

So you're telling me that it's a French Weapon? With that in mind, I suppose that when you fire it, a little white flag pops out and says I surrender, je suit coward!

[Edited on 15-5-2004 by Hard Red]

of course!!,,,the french are always ready!!

Wararts, where do you get all this suff from? A specific site, or just google? Please post alink if theres any great site this stuff comes from.

I know where i recognise OICW from now: Universal Soldier:The Return.

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Originally posted by wararts
of course!!,,,the french are always ready!!

Oh I laughed so hard! It's racist, and slightly cruel, but my god, hahhahahaha.

well ..ladycool21,, i aint racist,,actualy i have many french freinds ....and they know its all for fun,,,,lets keep it real..
not that you called me racist or anything,,just making sure,,glad you liked the pic

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by wararts]

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by wararts]

Originally posted by wararts
Work has been done by GIAT and FN, among others (FN was a partner in the AAI proposal for the OICW.)

Still... GIAT and FN do not produce bad guns. These are just early prototypes... Who knows how this will develop? most of the pics are old and in case of the OICW the shape of the weapon changed in time. So will this. The smaller version you showed us:

they even got a smaller version,,,

for example was the first prototype.

There is still hope this will be a fine weapon... How the french will use it won't have to do with design.

and a pics:
An old one


And the most commonly known one, I think.

great find johnny!!!...i knew that it would probably drop in size,,just like the oicw did,,,,thanks alot..

but doing a little more research i have concluded,,,that the big papop is the new version???...