These words belong to the man who threw his shoe at Bush

Those are the type of people who are in the majority in the Arab world,the decent,loyal,family orientated,wise,who do not turn their back on a stranger nor those in need.These are the people who have been demonised by succesive Western governments, who in their haste to support Israel and impose their will on any oil producing Arab nation, have alienated an entire culture,his response? he throws a shoe at the "leader" of those who would seek to "mould" his country into a western idea of democracy and "stability"and for this symbolic act he is treated abominably,I truly hope that justice is served on those who mistreated him in that terrible fashion.
I feel ashamed that my government(UK)involved itself in this illegal occupation of his country and really hope that we wake up sooner rather than later and say finally,enough is enough.

Sodom

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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by nunya13

 

This guy is no hero, he is a coward and a liar. Everything he says in these quotes is nothing but pure lies. The only thing this thread attempts to do is encourage people to cling to lies and delusions, and to spread propaganda.

It's your assumption that he's telling lies. I resent the accusation that my sole purpose for this thread is to spread lies and propaganda.

Yeah, well then he should have thrown his shoe at the local Muslim clergy sending suicide bombers out into the local markets to kill innocents. He should have tried to throw his shoe at the President of Iran and the President of Syria, because both nation have been pushing for a religious based war by blowing up innocent people.

Just because the US has different reason for being there doesn't make it any more justified when innocent people die from their actions also. But you obviously advocate the throwing of a shoe at a President, as long as it's not your President. So you just disagree with the reasons behind him doing it, not that he did it to a President.

Edit to remove a comment that was also presumptuous.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by nunya13]

I wanted to say that while I don't think the man, if true, deserved to be tortured in any way, AT ALL, I don't necessarily disagree with him being jailed.

I know that sounds strange, but there are consequences for throwing a shoe at a world leader. How he was treated in jail is an entirely different matter.

Originally posted by Rockpuck


But by reading his ignorance I can safely assume he's a Sunni, and he supported Sadam. Life was good for Sunnis then. Regardless of how bad we made iraq, life was nowhere near the fairytale he tries to depict..

Nope.

He was a Shi'a-Muslim:

From Wikipedia

Muntadhar al-Zaidi was raised in Sadr City, a suburb of Baghdad, Iraq.[9] Al-Zaidi graduated with a degree in communication from Baghdad University.[10] He began working as a correspondent for Al-Baghdadia TV in 2005. He first became known as a victim of a kidnapping by unknown assailants in November 2007. Al-Zaidi has also been arrested twice by United States armed forces.[11][12] He lives in a two room apartment within central Baghdad.[13][14] He is of the Shi'a-Muslim faith,[15] and unmarried.[16]

This might also explain why he was so peeved at the US-- The guy was once kidnapped in Iraq and beaten unconscious in November 2007 and released 3 days later. No one knows why. But then only TWO MONTHS LATER US soldiers arrested him, held him overnight, searched his residence then let him go and gave him an apology. It doesn't say why he was arrested or what he was originally accused of, but apparently it was baseless since he was later apologized to.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by nunya13]

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I wish I could send him a personal thank you. What so many don't understand about the invasion of iraq was that it had nothing to do with oil.

It has everything to do with exactly what he said. The way to break a people is to divide the home, the place of worship, the community.

This is exactly what they talked about in Silent Weapons, Quiet Wars. The disintegration of community, family,ect.

The arab peoples have long been nomadic and tribal and their ties to family and community have always been strong. Break that and you weaken them and can easily take over their nation. They are doing it here and are very successful.

We as a people tend to rely more on organizations, such as non profits, churches that are mostly corporate businesses under contract with the IRS then under the true direction of jesus.
We don't help each other, we live far from family as we have been educated to believe that is natural.

In fact our families and extended families are supposed to be our support system.

The Order of the Skull and Bones is just fullfilling its agenda and sadly we are going along with it despite our words. If we really want to fight, then stop getting Government assistance and going to some or other organization. Instead help each other, support family, collect your tribes near each other, build a bridge between each other and keep it open for the free to pass over.

If there is an upheaval coming join with like minded and creat a group or two and help supply all you will each need. You can fight by not going in the direction they want you to go in.

If you can get this message to him, do so, warn the arab community. Rothschild said in his final papers that the last conflict needed to destroy America was the arab/american conflict. Do not let them conquer the arab world, and you help both of us.