Dreams, do you think they have any significance?

Personally I never put any significance in dreams or dreamlike states. Always thought it was the brain just blabbering about when you are relaxing...like speaking to itself kinda and organizing the events you experienced.

3 weeks ago I went to my grandfathers grave together with two of my familymembers. We made the grave look very nice with flowers and I was quite satisfied. He died many years ago. The same night, I went to sleep on the sofa because of all the noice near the bedroom. Late in the night I woke up for no reason and then fell asleep again. I started dreaming. A forest trip with some friends (that I could never see, but they were always ahead of me). We were going past the house where my grandparents used to live when I was a little girl. I went in to sleep there,and noticed one of my friends on the way out before I got to tell them goodbuy. I went out to lock the door, the outer door is hard to lock so I prepared for a little struggle. While I was standing there, there was an extremely bright light from outside. I didnt feel scared, so I opened the door slowly and had a peek. It was my grandfather standing there, he was young...as young as I never saw him but I recognized him from the picture back when he used to be a footballplayer (I think this was the best part of his life). He was surrounded in very bright light and I jumped unto him, started crying and told him how much I missed him. It was just awesome...the feelings were just extremely good. I wope up shortly after, crying. I couldnt stop crying either..so I went to the bathroom where I cried my guts out for one hour. It was so real and so strong, a one of a lifetime experience.

I am a student these days (as always) and I had my first lesson two weeks ago. Teacher likes to provoke,and he thinks its time I get my arse moving towards LIVING the esoteric, not just burry my head in the theory. I couldnt answer the questions. I didnt say too much and rest of the class felt awkward. I didnt feel too good either. I came back to my appartment the day after and the same morning I was in some kind of state between wake and "dreamland". I had a long conversation with myself or something else, I dont really know. I learnt about the subject..and how it was relating to other things. I woke up, all was clear and I sat down some hours and wrote a long mail to the teacher. Teacher thought it was good, and just added a sentence to it. Never had this happen before either. Found out it was time to open the books on the subject.

So, last night...I dont know if I actually woke up or if I dreamt I woke up. I was still lying in bed, but supported myself with one arm to get higher up. The room was dark, but there were occult symbols/writings and numbers on the wall on my right side...and in the air behind my head. It was glowing with a bright light. I didnt understand any of it, so I went back to sleep.

Strange development from what dreams used to be for me, but I guess everything is bound to change.

So, how much significance do you people give your dreams?

No i don't think they have any *real* significance..but i have had many dream/awake like experiences that have been very good for me psychologically.They can be rewarding in ways hallucinogenic experiences can also be.So yes they are great because you experience things that are good for you as a person(or bad).But in the grand scheme of things they are just created by the brain via chemical and electrical processes and are localized in the brain ie there is nothing magical about them.

Yes, dreams are just as important as waking life. If you're interested research carl jung's work.

Dreams can be looked at symbolically with what is going on in your life and what is to come in your life. They can be premonitions, warnings or signs to your future. If you can willingly lucid dream you can basically create a subconscious blueprint for you to follow while you are awake by doing specific things in your lucid dreams that can help you overcome situations and other things in your waking life.

Dreaming is a very important factor in ones life and they also hold symbolic messages to better or understand yourself.

Originally posted by Scorpiotropic
So, how much significance do you people give your dreams?

S&F Scorp, just for bringin' it up. I love the dream threads. And hearing about dreams.

To answer your question, I don't have any choice but to believe a dream I experienced had so much bearing in my life at the exact moment I needed it that the truth of it was highly significant and self-evident. But it hasn't always like this. I suppose I could have gone down the avenue of believing it was premonitious, but there was no denying the healing that my subconscious had done to my conscious being.

My Mother was dying from kidney failure after a long life of going in and out of hospitals because of various ailments of which the most pivotal was a tumor attached to her spine just under her brain stem when I was 4 years old (feel free to extrapolate whatever you might of my personality stemming from this life-guiding event as it's probably not wrong), and being the oldest of 3, I've always been the closest of us to her.

She had been going in and out of detriment for 3 full weeks - one day the doc would say she's gonna be fine, and the next, he'd say she had 3 days left, and back and forth like this 3 more times (over 3 weeks) before she finally succumbed to it. Needless to say, this was very mentally exhausting, and by the end, I was at the end of my rope so to speak...until the dream of the night before she died.

I was being held captive with a bunch of people (male and female, young and old) inside what can only be thought of as a large tool shed obviously out in the woods somewhere because of the strong smell of pine trees all around us and the realization of shaded daylight. I remember feeling like we were all there not by choice or safety, but of the malice of someone else. The other strong feeling I initially had was the need to protect these people - whoever they were.

I looked out a crack in the door, and noticed guards and guns and a small house as if we were in the actual tool shed of the house. I saw a guard leave his M4A1 automatic rifle leaning up against a railing and leaving to go to the bathroom behind a tree or something (I thought), and I also noticed the door to the shed I was looking out of was not locked!

I didn't even think. I told everyone to stay put, opened the door, and ran toward the machine gun just in time to grab it, cock it and turn toward the door of the house to see a man in uniform (looked foreign but American) noticing me picking up the weapon. There was a moment when I thought he might be considering me and perhaps being cool, but then he started screaming something unintelligible, picked up his rifle and pointed it at me the same moment I was pointing mine at him. We started firing simultaneously from about 15 feet away from each other.

The next feeling I had was exhilaration as we both opened up with everything we had. I remember getting him in the shoulder or winging him somehow, but I also remember being shot fully 5 or 6 times in the torso and once in the neck without noticing any iota of pain at all.

As my breath was taken from me, I felt a tinge of fear, but as I felt my blood stop pumping all over my body, I new I was not going to make it.

I told him quite calmly, "See you in hell, coward..."

"You first." he said.

And, "I'll be waiting." is all I could come up with, but that's when I stopped caring.

The next feeling I remember can only be described as wave after wave of nothing short of the most utter RELIEF anyone has ever felt, as I completely stop breathing (and not caring about it) and start feeling my joints and muscles relaxing completely. As I consciously lay there in unfeigned, unmatched euphoria, the world fades to black, as if the end of an epic movie. Then I wake up...completely calm, and completely without fear or sorrow (and the knowledge of the answer of a question I'd always pondered).

Not 10 minutes later, someone from the nursing home my mother was being transported to (because she was gonna make it, right? lol) told me she had some difficult news for me. I said, "She's gone, isn't she?" And the woman on the other end said, "Yes, Sir. She died on the way here from the hospital. You can come see her in about an hour." I woke everyone up, and off we went.

There was no doubt in my mind, that if I hadn't had that dream, I would not have been able to take this news in any kind of dignified way. It has completely changed my whole personality, and as you can see, I remember every pertinent detail.

So yes, indeed. I believe dreams are just another extension of our bodies healing themselves. There is no doubt in my mind that dreams are the body's defense against mental issues just as white blood cells are the body's defense against physical issues. I doubt this is all dreams are, but I am positive that they also serve the purpose of healing or somehow preparing you for something that will eventually or immediately impact your existence.

The only other dream I remember with this kind of vivid clarity is the only recurring dream I have, and would certainly constitute wholly another thread, and not one nearly as uplifting. :/

Dreams are certainly here for a reason, just as every stage of consciousness is...I can't believe either are mistakes when they seem to impact so many. This is why I like dream threads so much, as I believe we're barely aware of the tip of the iceberg in either of these subjects.

Hope you enjoyed it.

You would have to be a bit disturbed to not understand how important your dreams are.

They are your brains resting cycle. REM is very important to human development and health.

My dreams help me cope with various issues. Whenever I have a problem in life that I cannot solve waking, I dream about it, and get an answer, every time.

They are a guide to your subconcious, something extremely important.

~Keeper

A large percentage of our dreams are wish fulfillment, and many others are just ridding the psyche of various anxieties, fears, and buried thoughts.

However, once in a great while we do have very significant dreams which are clearly important, significant somehow to our lives/spirits. It sounds like you had such a dream. You will always remember it. (Actually, it sounds like you had a visit from your grandfather.)

Edit to add: The dreams I've had which were significant, resulted in the same behavior as yours. Waking up, crying, or really shocked or shaken, knowing it was something extrodinary. Usually I've gotten up out of bed to remember every thing about it and think about it. They can be overwhelming, as yours was.

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Originally posted by lagnar

Originally posted by Scorpiotropic
So, how much significance do you people give your dreams?

S&F Scorp, just for bringin' it up. I love the dream threads.

And hearing about dreams.

To answer your question.....

Very interesting lagnar and sorry to hear. Could seem like you were prepared for the message and the following emoitions. One is always concerned about a loved ones and what they go through...knowing that it is a good peaceful experience is soothing in all the turmoil of such a loss.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
You would have to be a bit disturbed to not understand how important your dreams are.

They are your brains resting cycle. REM is very important to human development and health.

My dreams help me cope with various issues. Whenever I have a problem in life that I cannot solve waking, I dream about it, and get an answer, every time.

They are a guide to your subconcious, something extremely important.

~Keeper

Good point. Disturbed...hmpf

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting

...However, once in a great while we do have very significant dreams which are clearly important, significant somehow to our lives/spirits. It sounds like you had such a dream. You will always remember it. (Actually, it sounds like you had a visit from your grandfather.)

Yes, this was my thought when I woke up. I wanted to call my auntie and tell, but didnt dare doing it as she might get upset. One can only hope you are right...it was awesome

has aanybody else realized that wen you take a nap in the day your more likley to dream?.. or is that just me?

Most of my dreams I have I forget or cannot remember the meaning or all the events that happened. I have heard of certain books being out there that have sayings you can read right before you go to bed and it will make you dream of certain things. I will look more into it and get back unless somebody already knows.

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In short, dreams DESERVE more of our attention and respect.

Dreams are funny things. They can be purely fictional or they can be precognitive. They can be interpreted or simply left to wonder. Dreams can release your wildest imagination or your inner most feelings. You can dream of unfamiliar territories like dragons and mystical lands...or something more familiar like the local ice cream parlor and your friend Joe. They can be a gateway to the middle of your true self, or simply something to laugh at and share with friends.

When I was younger I used a method that I do not quite remember anymore that involved programming my mind to wake up after a dream. I would write down my dream and quickly fall back to sleep and into another dream. I would have 3 or 4 dreams written out by the time I woke up in the morning. I would then try my hardest to interpret the dreams, and in some instances, use other resources to help me. Most interpretations were very accurate. Some were manipulated by outside influences such as the radio and the television. I learned a lot about dreaming in these past studies.

Most people don't really mind their dreams though...they just shrug them off as if they suggest nothing. They do not realize that (most)dreams happen in color and in true time. However, there are black and white dreams(only something like 4.5% of people under the age of 25 dream in black and white from what I understand). They do not realize that throughout a typical lifespan, they will spend an estimated 6 YEARS dreaming. Isn't this something that you should know more about if you spend so much time doing it? I would think so. I'm not going to play basketball for 6 years and not know anything about the sport am I? Of course not.

However, dreams are very misunderstood at the present. There are many theories but they remain just that....theories. However there remain common themes and emotions among all dreamers. The most prevalent emotion being anxiety. Some of the more prevalent themes being: arriving too late, a person now alive being dead, being chased, a person dead now being alive, running very slowly, flying, falling, embarassing moments, falling in love with random people, and many many more. All these dreams can be interpreted. Some may actually have relevance, some may not.

Dreams are unique to say the least. I believe dreams speak what one doesnt want spoken, or is afraid to say. Dreams put your emotions out there, so you don't have to. It makes it much easier to say "i had a dream that we made out" than to say "I really like you." Sure it may not be exactly the same, but I'm sure you know what I'm trying to say. Use your brain a little bit

The following are a few of the current 'theories' regarding the function of dreams:

During the night there may be many external stimuli bombarding the senses, but the mind interprets the stimulus and makes it a part of a dream in order to ensure continued sleep.[25] The mind will, however, awaken an individual if they are in danger or if trained to respond to certain sounds, such as a baby crying.Dreams allow the repressed parts of the mind to be satisfied through fantasy while keeping the conscious mind from thoughts that would suddenly cause one to awaken from shock.[26]
Freud suggested that bad dreams let the brain learn to gain control over emotions resulting from distressing experiences.[24]

Jung suggested that dreams may compensate for one-sided attitudes held in waking consciousness.[27]

Ferenczi[28] proposed that the dream, when told, may communicate something that is not being said outright.

Dreams regulate mood.[29]

Hartmann[30] says dreams may function like psychotherapy, by "making connections in a safe place" and allowing the dreamer to integrate thoughts that may be dissociated during waking life.

More recent research by psychologist Joe Griffin, following a twelve year review of data from all major sleep laboratories, led to the formulation of the expectation fulfilment theory of dreaming, which suggests that dreaming metaphorically completes patterns of emotional expectation in the autonomic nervous system and lowers stress levels in mammals.[31][32

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Dreams can fortell the future via symbology...read about Jacob's
youngest son Joseph in the bible...according to the story, it was his ability to interpret the pharoh's dream that got him out of prison in Egypt & landed him in an exalted position. Dreams are indeed significant as they can bring astounding clarity to the conscious from the subconscious. It may
not seem very romantic to to say that it works much like a computer does, but that's the best analogy I can come up with. The trick is to go over the dream detail by detail immediately upon awakening. Next try to remember what was weighing upon your mind/heart before going to sleep;
there should be a connection. Once you start practicing this for yourself, you will get better & better at it. If you need to make a crucial decision of some sort, the dream will teach you the correct choice to make for your highest benefit or least damage if that can't be avoided for some reason.
If you can put enough of your dreams into writting along with the solutions they present I will buy your book...the mind is so underrated...Mike

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I think dreams are very important.

I believe that you connected with your grandfather when he was young, spiritually.

Dreams are difficult - they can bring up bad stuff we would rather forget, or they can bring up the present in a way to indicate something, or they can bring up the future.

It is almost impossible to work out what dreams mean.


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i have been recording a dream journal for the last few months and i can tell you that it has helped me remember lots more of what im dreaming!!

I do believe some dreams have importance , yes.

Its well documented that people have had many experiences in dreams come true, as well has messages that have helped them at a particular time in their lives.

I have a few dreams which have proven to me 100% that they can be important.

1/ About 7 yrs ago now when i lived in Scotland, I dreamt all 6 lotto numbers. I woke up, but could only remember 5 of them. so i wrote the 5 down and played them on the following saturday.

I got 3 right and was happy as.

The following Saturday, all 5 of them came up, but i never played them.

Maybe it was chance, but i have always wondered if the 1 number i could not remember was the actual 6th ball that came out that sat night!!

2/ think it was 2 or 3 yrs ago now, (now living in New Zealand) i dreamt that a famous sportsperson would die in a helicopter crash.

I was talking to my mum back home in scotland the very next day when there was a newsflash saying Colin Macrae (famous World Rally Champion) had died in a chopper crash!!

there are a few more, but these are a couple for me that have me believeing there can be something in them.

As for all the other ones. who knows what they mean!!!

I have had to many prophetic dreams to discount their importance.
I have always felt like a freak, because I remember almost all of my dreams and in most cases better than waking memories. I can recount more child hood dreams than I memories of school life.
Also I have always been able to lucid dream. I was never taught, never had to work at it, it just always came natural. In many cases I think I might have the ability to interpret dreams as well. Sometimes I'll hear about a dream and I'll just know. If I have to spend to much time thinking about what someones dream meant than I'm usually wrong, but those instantaneous AHHA moments generally seem to be right. At least I think.

I find the whole subject of dreams fascinating and I do think they are very important. What really interests me, is why some dreams are so vivid and stick with you (I can remember some dreams from my teens/early 20's and I'm in my 40's now) and other times on waking I don't even remember dreaming (though I know I have as we always do)

I went through a phase of having a recurring dream about an ever extending room in a house, I just kept finding new doors that would lead me to new areas, but when I made some major life changes, I have never had that dream again. Recently I have been having really vivid, but different dreams every night, but am at a loss as to what it all means as the symbolism is contradictory and I am left feeling very confused on waking. I think I should probably start to keep a dream journal to see if by linking them all together it makes any more sense.

For me it's sort of a case by case basis.


The dreams I remember are always extremely vivid and usually prophetic. Never in BIG world altering events, I didn't have anything symbolic of 9/11 before that happened, or before Katrina, or the Tsunami, or any of that. But they're very cryptic and often times the symbols themselves aren't know until after the event, which is always troubling. When I wake up and remember a very vivid dream I know what was a symbol and what wasn't, and generally it was ALL a symbol, and I can't put any of it together I get very nervous because I know my personal puzzle piece in this Universal mind is trying to tell me something but that the Universe itself is saying, "no, you can't know yet." and I don't like it when these two don't agree, it makes me nervous. But if I can decipher the symbols I can act accordingly to make sure all goes according to plan, and I can understand why it is that the plan is the way it is and be comfortable with it.

Dreams are very complex but I think the significance changes from person to person. I've been fortunate enough to have dreams that have played out future events to extreme precision and dreams that have been very symbolic of the future and past and present and dreams that I know are actually reality and actually happening at that exact time, but in an alternate reality.

I maintain though that it isn't that way for everybody, and that's why many don't believe they have any real significance, and they're right. But they're only right in their own personal universe, and bless them for it.

Pay attention to your dreams, very closely, because they may be very very important.




oh man, I love the beatles right now.

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I have! I believe it's because your mind has been more active and knows it will be active again very soon, as opposed to a full nights sleep. Also, I believe it's related to the sun. I often sleep very few hours at night, as though a nap, and I'm more likely to dream in the day. The sun stimulates us because it gave birth to us so in the day time our minds are more active. When you combine that with the activeness of the day it makes your mind much more reactive to it's moment of clarity.

You dream every time you sleep, I promise, but it's variant whether or not you'll remember it, depending on your own personal reality.

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That happens to me quite often, where I only get enough information in the dream to where I don't know what it means until the event takes place. Quite frustrating really.

Dreams are used by the Spirit realm, whether it be from God or from Satan. Dreams can also be a spiritual gifts for people who are gifted with the Supernatural gift of Visionaries, Prophets, Psychics, etc. Dreams are used to guide. Guide people down a Dark Path or a path of Light. They can be used Prophetically or Psychic wise (foretell the future) .

Analytical side of things is very important. enough said, most people cannot analyse anything, so thats where they go wrong.

People always seem to think everything in your brain is the same, it is not. If you know what your doing, there are things that you get that are stronger than others. Most people do not even know that.

Like most females cannot analyse there emotions and thoughts, they just believe everything. This is why there is no such thing as female intuition, females and there mind cannot analyse anything in these things, they just believe it all, which is useless.

This is one reason why males are only allowed to be catholic priests. Even though most males too, cannot analyse, some priests are very good, especially if they are truely pure.

If your female stop believing everything, you think and feel and dream, those things need to be analysed in your brain, and no one else on earth can analyse anothers message they receive.

But do not get cocky if your male, as most males are cabbages too, and have no analytical skills, just look at alex jones, compared to william cooper. Jones is rubbish at analysing anything, while cooper was the best the truth movement had, in how his mind worked.

So get this very important saying again.

NO ONE ON EARTH CAN UNDERSTAND MESSGAES FROM YOUR SUB CONCIOUS, BUT YOU, NOT NO ONE.

Everyone thinks rubbish all the time, and how would anyone be able to tell what thoughts mean anything to you other than you.

The occultists, have such an unfair advantage as they have so much knowledge on this we do not have.