The reason your might not want to be Abducted/Have Contact

Book: Keepers of the Garden
Author: Dolores Cannon
Page: 257 (PDF eBook)

The following conversation is during a conversation with "Phil" and UFO abductee and MUFON regression therapist "Dolores Cannon" (this was not during one of his regressions, this was his conscious awareness speaking while awake) The message: be grateful for the reality and foundation you have for your reality, but we live in such a "convoluted universe" that is infinitely bigger than we can possibly comprehend, that the moment your "foundation" even "starts to slip" from under you, a dreaded insanity starts to develop in your mind...

Dolores: Yes, this is related to this life; something that's been happening to you now. That would make a difference, wouldn't it?

Phil : Yeah, You know, that first time we worked on this and I saw the
little creatures in the road; I remember the feeling of, "I don't
want to change my reality. I don't want this to happen." I resisted
it because it was changing my concept of reality and my foundations.
It feels like part of what's happening now is that again my
reality foundations are being challenged. The things that I have
taken for granted and drawn so much strength from, basing my
perceptions of what is and isn't reality, is being ... frankly, shot
to hell.

I'm sure you have to be picked up by the FBI as a missing person
or contact with ETs to be briefed afterward as in the Walton case.

I see your point. It seems that an abduction experience is analogous to having an intense psychedellic trip. It shatters your foundation of what you thought was reality.

I would argue that the insanity part is not mandatory. Like most things, it probably can go either way - someone with such an experience may have tremendous potential to develop a new paradigm of thinking. One that has a positive impact to their life and the people around them.

[edit on 14-9-2009 by Mr. Schwabe]

I agree, I would think the outcome would directly reflect your ability to adapt. Personally I accept and embrace the fact that I do not know anything except what I see with my own 2 eyes. (beliefs set aside for the moment). So if I saw a couple of intergalactic critters walk across the street, jump into a 2 foot multi-light speed anti-gravity disc, and dissapear into the night sky... I would take it for what it was, and accept that I still don't know squat. No need to go crazy.

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I had a UFO experience last year and it was something that made me go a bit wacko to put it lightly. I lost my friends and I ended up separated for near on eight months because I just would not let it go (I am pretty stubborn). I ended up living alone and though I fought it I quickly fell onto a terrible depression. All I could do was think about the event over and over, reliving the experience in my mind, trying to find fault with it and pass it off as a dream or a hallucination.

It did not work and if anything it just reaffirmed what I had seen and felt. The emotional high I experienced with the sighting was the real kicker, a sense of nirvana that I have never felt before? Anyway one day I seemed to just wake up and the obsession was no longer consuming me, and I was able to function as was expected of me by my family.

For me the thing that nearly cost me was the fact that my family treated the event and my retelling of the event as a bit of a joke but that joke then turned into an embarrassment after a couple of months. I ignored the jibes and still I would not let up because for some reason it felt important to talk about it. I stopped eating and sleeping properly. My friends were interested at first but now I have little contact because they pretty much told me to stop with the "nonsense" as a group.

It's weird that a few of this group were always spouting on about reptilians which I never took seriously as I was always the objective and skeptical one pouring cold water on that notion. Then one night I had a UFO experience and they considered it a joke to be laughed at behind my back... Such an Irony.

So, I speak to no one about it. I did post the experience I had under another account name (Dissemination) which is disabled due to me forgetting my password and strangely enough I lost my email account too. The email password was changed. Still flags and stars do not matter and is not why I log in every day. I am like you, I just ache for the truth to come out into the open.

Anyway I agree with you guys. I think I came close to suffering a mental breakdown because what I had seen was just not possible yet I saw it and I even swore lots and told myself this cannot be happening. A part of me wishes it never did but the major part of me is still glad it happened if only to confirm to myself that there are strange things up there in the night sky and I no longer need to be convinced via Internet photos and documents (A welcome freedom actually).

My wife believed me at first but she doubted me to my face not because she did not believe me but because I scared her with my intensity and inadvertently cast doubt upon everything she finds important (X factor, celebrity news, coronation street, casualty and Eastenders). She told me that and to be fair I can understand her point.

I wish I could enjoy TV, but I just cannot anymore, I feel different, more alive now but this new feeling has left me somewhat on the outside looking in and I am careful not to talk UFO in front of my wife or my 21 year old daughter as she just wants to dance and jam on her electric guitar (I can understand that too). It is a really weird time in my life thanks to my experience last year. I Don't think the secret can be maintained much longer. I hold onto that hope.

Before anyone jumps on me I know it sounds nuts I really do but I'm not some hippie with an agenda or looking for attention. I was a detachment commander in the British army and never subscribed to things that come from wild opinion or wild conjecture. I am characteristically well grounded and I believe what I can see and touch...

Man what a year it has been

reply to post by SmokeJaguar67

I am like you, I just ache for the truth to come out into the open.

A star for your bravery.

People, your "beloved ones" that are embarrased or critical of your experience and non supportive are the ones missing out.

"They" are the "I'm a Barbie Girl Living in a Barbie World" people.

"Barbie Girl" by Aqua (My 8 yr old grand daughter's current favorite song):

Hi Barbie
Hi Ken!
Do you wanna go for a ride?
Sure Ken!
Jump In...

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation
Come on Barbie, let's go party!

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation

I'm a blond bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink,
kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

(uu-oooh-u)

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation

Come on Barbie, let's go party!
(Ah-ah-ah-yeah)

Make me walk, make me talk, do whatever you please
I can act like a star, I can beg on my knees
Come jump in, bimbo friend, let us do it again,
hit the town, fool around, let's go party
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

Come on Barbie, let's go party!
(Ah-ah-ah-yeah)
Come on Barbie, let's go party!

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation

Come on Barbie, let's go party!
(Ah-ah-ah-yeah)

Oh, I'm having so much fun!
Well Barbie, we're just getting started
Oh, I love you Ken!

These folks, watch Fox, read romance novels and "waste" what little precious time we have on this ball of dirt we call "reality".

I suggest pick up some of Dolores Cannon's books, go see her if you have the money and get regressed. I'm hoping to.

We are all here for a purpose.

Soul growth - personally I wanna get back to "the source" I'm tired of war, famine, injustice and the day to day silliness of it all.

We are a multidimensional "life force" having a physical experience.

Myself, I have always known something was a miss. That there is more than what appears on the surface here.

What was your experience? You saw one. Did you "communicate" with "them"? Up until recently I have always been very leary of "the other ones". But and I say this in retrospect: Any beings out there that have mastered time and space must have a technology many times more advance than ours and probably would have the "power" to incinerate us but haven't.

At the moment I am reading The Convoluted Universe - Book One by Delores Cannon.

Very mind expanding concepts for a little old lady born in 1931 in St. Louis, Missouri.

I am on page 110 of Book One and have read various other works out there by her and much of what she says rings so true.

I think that ache we all feel is our wanting to get back to "the source".

From my era by Crosby Stills Nash & Young, brillant "Back to the Garden" very very cool song

"We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon.
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden."


Peace go with you.





[edit on 13-11-2009 by ofhumandescent]

reply to post by SmokeJaguar67


The change in paradigm is natural, along with the need to turn off the television which is a hypnotic brain entrainement hz. I dont see this as negative.

One thing that needs to be understood in the waking process is that many will discover that their families are not supportive, and are very immersed in the programming of this matrix.
In the end, one must ask themselves. The blue pill or the red? I prefer truth and the knowledge from whence I came I will return, as this limited reality game/matrix and suppressed small avatar is not my natural state.

Its the red pill or the blue. You seem to be very much beginning an incredible journey. I would do a lot of meditations and access your right hemisphere and set the intention to connect to your higher self. Charkra meditations. Psi balls. Brainwave entrainement.
www.centerpointe.com...
look for the free ones.
Starseed music such as vangelis, era, gregorian, and walking zen minded meditations while doing work or chores, or eras eastern album for doing chakra meditations.

Just grow, into awareness, and speed up the process by setting intentions.

"I am awake and aware. I remember who I am, my connection to my higher self is growing stronger each day, and I can access all the information I need to accelerate my growth, awarness and learnign process. I am so grateful!"

Speak words to yourself: awareness, tranquility, peace, love, understanding, ascension, healing, enlightenment.

The thing is, the more that wake up, the less that will ever conform, and the more help that will come for this planet. Not to mention, its our own freedom as well, for a free mind cannot be enslaved.

During my many abductions (Return Sessions with Ming-Kuh-Bar) I never felt fear (flood of hopelessness)

In fact it was a peaceful, fun and relaxing experience. Similar to a visit to the facility/store where one would smoke "Hookah" (Water Pipe Tobacko)

The Greys are the most friendly , They offer knowledge and relaxation time.

From this experience (Truth Event) It is obvious that many people claiming to have been contacted (Abducted) and facing brutality and fear are lying to put purpose back into their lives and find sexual mates are like-minded "Abduction Meetings" and the Like . Sad , Pathetic people they are , I am here to Destroy them

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To all folk who are interested in this stuff....................... You really do have to be a positive human entity free of prejudice and open to the idea that there is something so beautiful out there

Thank You (Grateful) I can tell you are a BELIEVER (Truth Acceptor) Who has a Gorgeous Soul filled w/ Lovingkindness

Keep Up the Love and Truth Spreading (Like Warm Nutella over a morning toast)

reply to post by theprofessionalnyc

Dolores: Yes, this is related to this life; something that's been happening to you now. That would make a difference, wouldn't it?

The above is known in hypnosis as leading the subject. It would have made more sense, if the regressionist was properly educated, to have phrased the above as follows: "Is this related to this life?" "Is this something that's been happening to you now?" "Would that make a difference?"

You ask questions of a subject, you don't put words in their mouth.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
I'm sure you have to be picked up by the FBI as a missing person
or contact with ETs to be briefed afterward as in the Walton case.

The Walton "case," a hoax. Check the facts, not the romantic versions.

We have no Evidence it was a "Hoax" (Disinfo Tactic ) so we can Only believe it , I do find problems with his story about the UFO space ship , It does not match up (Connect) With the internal diagrams of real Alien Spacecraft , Leading me to Believe he WAS (Acually) Abducted but did not pass the Screening Stage and was thus Returned to Earth within an Hour , So he Made up (Invented) the rest of the story

If you all want I can Provide (Give) drawings of the Internal Schematics (Map) of Alien Spacecraft

[edit on 13-11-2009 by fishspeaker]

reply to post by Mr. Schwabe

I see your point. It seems that an abduction experience is analogous to having an intense psychedellic trip. It shatters your foundation of what you thought was reality.

Depending on your mental state prior to a psychedelic "trip," you never lose touch with reality 'cause you know beforehand that you have taken something that is going to "open" your mind but you are still "here," not in the mental world that you might be creating as you trip.

Originally posted by fishspeaker
We have no Evidence it was a "Hoax" (Disinfo Tactic ) so we can Only believe it , I do find problems with his story about the UFO space ship , It does not match up (Connect) With the internal diagrams of real Alien Spacecraft , Leading me to Believe he WAS (Acually) Abducted but did not pass the Screening Stage and was thus Returned to Earth within an Hour , So he Made up (Invented) the rest of the story

If you all want I can Provide (Give) drawings of the Internal Schematics (Map) of Alien Spacecraft

[edit on 13-11-2009 by fishspeaker]

That's interesting...is there a "Cat Walk" in them....like a bridge going across a deep storage area?
And curved hallways with "Locker's and Drawers on the walls?

Ofhumandescent, I really hate to tell you, but if by “going back to the Source, you mean that you will be in some sort of heaven, you will be disappointed when you find out that Nothing in the Universe is Static.
Everything is in motion - perpetual motion. The Prime Directive of the Universe is To Create, so you can count on being “recycled” or should I say Redeployed?

I have to wonder why it is that People who do not have a clue as to other dimensions are the ones who get abducted and then it freaks them out. They make a mistake in talking about it to people they likely know
do not believe this sort of thing happens. I guess they are so wound up that they can't keep quiet.

For myself, I would not do regression. I would prefer to either remember it all myself, or just let it go.
And no, I have no desire to get back to the “Source”…I think that would be very Boring.

Originally posted by fishspeaker
If you all want I can Provide (Give) drawings of the Internal Schematics (Map) of Alien Spacecraft

[edit on 13-11-2009 by fishspeaker]

Sorry to drop in on a specific like a stalker but if you do not mind, that would be great, and your posts are fascinating please continue

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Thanks for the post. I enjoy a lot of meditations and am actually quite proficient in visualisation meditation but I live in a busy house surrounded by daughters, two cats, and a large and very weird sled dog that has a fetish for wearing cats off her neck like bad tempered ornaments. Then there is my 20 year old and her passion for blaring dance/trance music, while in another room a thirteen year old rock chick crashes about with her electric guitar.

Meditation or at least the peace and solitude I require tend to be a rarity at the moment but I do manage it sometimes. Strangely enough I have quite a few of Vangelis albums and I also listen to some Tangerine Dream and Ozric tentacle. However I prefer to listen to the high pitched keening that tends to kick in during deep meditation.

I have read this is the sound of the pineal gland and focusing on tuning into this sound has caused weird things to occur like a wave of vibrations from my feet to my cheeks. That said I have also experienced the sound like a stereo suddenly turned to full volume right next to my ear. From further research this is referred to as exploding head syndrome. It is rare but when it happens is it extremely disorientating and not an experience a person would wish to repeat.

The word I speak to myself, a personal mantra is “serenity” I whisper it at the beginning of my meditations so as to set the tone for the rest of it.
One thing at least, I am awake, it is just sad to see so many still sleeping.

The ship I was on was;


White
White
White
(with one dark room..the one I was in)
And there were no trims, no details, no seams...just...good ol white.

Hello white.

Bring on the white

From the OP:

that first time we worked on this

The balloon boy speaks to us again.
If the real story is not out by now there can't be much to it.
Sure reality is great and they can talk about it all day.

Originally posted by The Shrike

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
I'm sure you have to be picked up by the FBI as a missing person
or contact with ETs to be briefed afterward as in the Walton case.

The Walton "case," a hoax. Check the facts, not the romantic versions.

He was inside a saucer base.
Thats why dis info says he was a fake.

ED: Where do you take a knocked out Walton.
He said he walked around the base and saw three type of saucers.
And I don't have educational links to that either.
The story is well known and the story on TV years ago.


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