Washington Post: Black only event calls protesters racist

reply to post by poet1b

Come on, you never heard of the civil war or the Lincoln Douglas debates? Of course people wouldn't have said race relations where peachy back then. Most people would have felt that their attitudes towards blacks, and irish, and poles, and italians, and chinese and everyone else was fully justified. They would have complained how these other groups are not being kept in their place. Then they would have moved on to their neighbors who are racially the same, and even of the same religions, but how they do this and that wrong, and can hardly be trusted over all these other people.

My point exactly. And while your at it, why don't you learn about "white privilege" as well, interesting topic that you deny..

reply to post by cenpuppie


Name a country in Africa you would want to live in.

Next, you may come to realize that corruption is 'colorless'.

Your may be chasing your own shadow.

Originally posted by lpowell0627

Originally posted by someneph

You bring up some good points. There is nothing that can be done to prove this to me

So what you're saying is that you will always believe that racism exists no matter what is actually happening in the world.

Good for you.

You're the EXACT REASON racism exists. Period.

[edit on 14-9-2009 by lpowell0627]

I'm the reason that racism exists simply because you took a quote of mine out of context? I wasn't even referring to racism in general if you even read the rest of what I said. Its the people like you who make me avoid posting on ATS, as you rely on insults instead of intelligence.

We need to face the reality in this country that a minority of people want to change it for their lazy selfish wants.

Obama, Acorn and the rest of the no good lazy liberals need to take a back seat to the 270 million other people that actually want to work for a living or get an education to better themselves.

We are only talking about 30 million people without health insurance and I would suspect that most of those are the Obama supporting, Acorn perpetrating thug scum of society.

Detroit is full of people like this. Our Ex black convict Mayor was one of them and we just had another black politician (John Conyers wife) caught taking bribes. The blacks in every inner city that live in or run these cities are a real problem and those are straight up facts. No one can deny that crime and laziness isn't the norm in every inner city blacks control.

Now we are lead to believe one of them that actually embraces Marxist principals can change the country for the better? I don't think so. When facts are spoken you are a racist. I am a racist by that very definition.

So here is another fact. When Obama was running for president he said 45 million people didn't have any health insurance. Now the other day he said the number was 30 million. Without doing anything we have put 15 million back in with the have's.

Blacks make up about 38 million and change of the total population. I just wonder what number out of the 38 don't have health insurance that come from the "new factual" 30 million number?

Are they really serious with thier numbers and do they think those 2 million racist people that showed up in Washington for the tea party are going to just roll over for the lazy scum of society?

[edit on 14-9-2009 by northof8]

Ohhh man its times like these that make me feel embarrassed to be black....They are all so brainwashed and demoralized.......Just so blinded it hurts to see this crap. I actually feel little weird now being around my people because they talk like none of this crap is actually happening, so stuck in their own little worlds. I love my people and I love being black but why can't you see the truth when its right in front of you. I know everyone isn't blind but I believe most black people are. If they would of payed attention they would of seen people rallying against the BULL and lies the government has plagued our country with. Everyday feels like we our losing a little, I hate this.

Maybe we need to support the Hon. James David Manning, PhD.

Originally posted by stevegmu
reply to post by EMPIRE

 

I didn't say anything about his cabinet.

You said he surrounds himself with black this and racist that, yet what about his cabinet? Moreover, who are these people you speak of?

reply to post by lpowell0627

Actually, we weren't discussing his viewpoints on race. We are discussing whether or not black people, working in an assemnbly-line setting (reminder: you were using Detroit), have the same ability to work hard, save money, and buy a house anywhere in the country that they want to. And the answer is, yes. Which is why assembly-line jobs are the perfect example. My grandfather made base pay. So did the other black people that worked with him.

Actually, i never mentioned Detroit, but i went with the example you gave me. As for my point, you should read up on the subject of mortgage rates given to black and white people, as an example. I'll do you one better and tell you, dig around about Bank of America..not to mention car dealerships..but then i suppose that kind of prejudice is merely perceived rather than ground in any kind of truths.

Were? or are? I thought we were discussing racism TODAY.

We are talking about racism today. Racism TODAY is built upon the foundations laid down by our forefathers and turned into the institutionalism that powers this country. For instance have you ever watched TV and paid attention to the images it projects? I have and i don't see this "melting pot" that is so cliche. I can turn on the TV spot the token on tv shows, whose America is that reflecting? All of these new TV shows (fall lineup) how many have a black actor in the main lead? That is the beast of institutionalized racism.

I want you to NAME the community you can't get into BECAUSE you're black -- not because it's out of your price range or there are no houses for sale. Please name the community, so we can start a petition and get that community recognized for being prejudiced.

You really can't believe that anyone anywhere would come straight out and tell you you can't live here because of your skin color. If they did, someone would do exactly what you just said. It's just been coded into "There is no longer a vacancy" or "That [whatever, heh] has just been purchased/rented." Oh yes my friend, i've seen or heard it all, and if i haven't..i expect it!

News flash: The Federal Reserve robs from the whites AND blacks. Believe you me, they see no color that they won't take from!!

Yea, you hit the nail on the head on that one. Why don't you look up the pisstivity of some black bank owners when the FDIC came to town "take care" of their clients because they went bust. I remember because my moms was totally pissed off about that. Once again, Google is your friend. To much of my materials are printoffs from websites..and i gotta find them, hehe.

I am chiming in a little late. OMG are you kidding me? OK a Black only shin dig and the whites that protest are racist. Give me a break. I have nothing against any race I believe everyone is equal but JHC WTH? This is what bothers me if we had an all white shin dig we would be called racist but it is OK to have all black everything. Get over it already. Slavery happened a very long time ago. We do not see other cultures running around screaming racist when they were treated as slave a very long time ago. Just shut up and live your fn life. Not your ancesters...

[edit on 14-9-2009 by Melissa101]

reply to post by lpowell0627

PS - the fact that you called it a "white party" is very telling

Um, imma just give you this link to read. Everyone that reads this post should read. Ghetto Fabulous Parties .

That is what's going on regardless if you want to accept or not. But denial is a part of the privilege.

reply to post by EMPIRE


ACORN, Rev. Wright, Van Jones, H. Gates, S. Sotomayor, New Black Panther Party, NIO, SEIU, etc.

reply to post by cenpuppie


But you are not getting my point

I don't know what it means to be black, and you don't know what it means to be white.

I know what the concept of "white privilege" is, better than you.

It is a con job.

The PTB dislike working class white males more than they dislike black people. They see us as more of a threat than blacks, because we have the history of overthrowing the PTB.

We should not be enemies, we should be brothers in arms.

'White Guilt' is over, so being called racist no longer works. We realize it's just BS and a tool that use to work to keep us under control. Start calling them black nationalists, commies, liberals or socialists, what ever applies the best.

reply to post by Melissa101


Being a black person i can believe it, i mean RACE is the only difference between Obama and Bush in terms of what they are doing, what they are actually doing. I mean, both are doing the same thing, Obama just picked up where Bush left off. Bush had protesters but no one was showing up with guns. People weren't getting heated at town halls, they just wanted the war to be over. Even when Fema dropped the ball with New Orleans and did practically nothing, the government gave away all of those no bid contracts with hardly any kind of positive progress no one protested, hell no one STILL hasn't protested.

When it comes down to it, the only difference between them is one is black and the other is white, so how am i suppose to see the situation? The majority let's Bush steam roll'em but they get froggy when it's black guy up there? I got nothing but love and adoration for those that raged against machine when Bush was in power but that's it. These chicken-hawks i'm watching.

That's what the million dollar question is and i'm more afraid of the answer. Are they just rebelling because they are fed up the system or are they just rebelling because they are fed up with the system and they can more easily direct their anger at a black president than a white president. I would like to see this subject researched, quick someone call a university!

When Bush was smashing everyone and everything with his nerf hammer, where were those protesters? Hell we have more to fear from the Patriot Act then we do from health care reform. The health care we got now ain't gonna cut, especially with the baby boomers retiring and starting to, this is an issue that needs to be addressed NOW! Not later but now!

reply to post by poet1b

I don't know what it means to be black, and you don't know what it means to be white.

True that but i will add something. Everyday i see this country through two lenses. In one i see America as a white person would. I may not be white but remember that i have the same foundations as you. And the other i see it as a black person. It's this lens that i want you look through and look at how this country is, that's all I want. See what I see, experience what I experience. When you see what i see, then you will begin to understand. If your not willing to shift your own personal perspective, then it's difficult to explain something to someone that can't be explain. It's like seeing a sunset, something that must be experienced.

This link would help in your understanding
What is White Privilege

The PTB dislike working class white males more than they dislike black people. They see us as more of a threat than blacks, because we have the history of overthrowing the PTB.

Huh? What? Everyone overthrows TPTB not just working class white males, your so wrong in that statement. It's not the working middle class that everyone fears its the poor. Poor people are the ones that rise up not the middle class. I mean how do you want it? The French Revolution, the numerous Chinese rebellions against their rulers, that's just the tip of the iceberg..poor folks rose up not the artisans and musicians.

We should not be enemies, we should be brothers in arms.

Yes and yes you got me there. But there is nothing wrong with an intellectual debate. The more we spar the more we share. The more we share the more we realize how much we have in common..a bond forms. That's the bond that TPTB don't want..black and white standing together as brothers, because as Americans..that's all we are..no more no less.

reply to post by cenpuppie


I think a lot of people are angry because Obama campaigned on a promise of change. You have just stated his admin is a continuation of President Bush's. People aren't upset because he is black; they are upset because he lied.

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by Wimbly

 

It's funny how I never think of Obama's race when thinking about him, but am constantly reminded of race nearly every time I hear from a supporter.

This is the understatement of the year!
I couldn't agree with you more.

reply to post by cenpuppie

I'm sorry, but that "White Privilege" video is absolute trash. It's just more propaganda to try to divide the people of America.
Black, White, Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, Christian, Agnostic, Wiccan, AFC, NFC, WHATEVER...
Stop being drawn into this divisive Bull$#!t!
It's killing us!

i didn't know there was a annual black reunion where is the annual white reunion..oh wait if we did that we would be considered racist.....very hypocritical

and obama has been in the office less than a year, people need to give it a chance, then in a few years if things still haven't changed then protest, its ridiculous