Charlie Sheen's Fantasy 9/11 Truther Grilling of the President

From what I have read on the links provided, Reuters especially, I haven't seen this getting any bad press, that could change, but for now it seems to me what has begun to happen is some people will see this, and probably want to know what he is talking about.

It may seem like it when your on ATS, but a huge amount of people are still unaware of the fight for truth by anyone.

All they have seen are reporters talking about it, with the same smirky comments and shrugging that other conspiracies have obtained over the years, it happened with JFK, it happened with the Moon landings, it's always until recently been the case with UFO's, the UFO thing was a lot smaller until it was reignited after Jessie Marcel spoke out again years after the Roswell incident, when the Airforce came forward with Mogul, it seemed to backfire and got more people interested.

The very same thing could happen here, it only takes it to be talked about in the right places for interest to grow.

Nobody knows for certain what happened that day, a lot of things do not add up, that alone should be enough for anybody, both truthers and the skeptics poking fun to say, ok fair enough that does not look right, what is the harm in an investigation? if the investigation properly looks at the whole deal and provides reasonable evidence to support the official story then fine, but it does not look that way at all right now.

The whole thing was rushed and politicians pushed for a report, simply because there was a real need by someone to get into the middle east to fight and take control.

Who profited from all of that? follow the money, follow who supported the push, follow who made what desicions, and you will be well on the way to the truth, Dick Cheney is one of the creepiest people I have ever witnessed in power, the guy really does scare the crap out of me, only because he brushes away his responsibility without a thought of any consequences, and then tries to hide information directly related to his time as Vice President, and the times he was reported to be advising President Bush, some of those reports opened a lot of peoples eyes.

You only have to look at his actions to see the guy is not right, and IMO in no fit state to run the Government for the American people, he didn't show any concern for the American people, their Armies, or the Families of everyone involved, even now he still pops up making comments and trying to influence decision making in the White House, where is Bush? anyone know?

Ok people jumped in, and where made to look seemingly foolish, nobody has pointed any fingers on here, because that is how it was represented to all of us, not our fault or any single members fault, it was also picked up here about it being false, no harm has been done, and nobody is to blame but those who posted the interview on infowars.

Now it's time to sit back and watch what happens.

What happened today is what makes this place special, it was reported and posted as it was, and nobody can say any different.

If I could give a standing ovation I would, all I can say is well done to everyone who dealt with it.

All i know is that i got a mass U2U from admin to digg the Hoax story. So there is an active effort going on at ATS to take full advantage of this to hurt Alex.

The worst part is i have never gotten a U2U to digg a story even the most amazing stories that have been posted and broken here at ATS i've never gotten one but i get one for the AJ hoax story.

Pretty telling.

Yes I received one also, it could be taken several ways, when I first opened it, my first thought was damage limitation to be honest, it all happened so fast I couldn't keep up and took a break.

I even had the thoughts in my head that Charlie Sheen had set AJ up, with all the talk he was set to appear on his show and didn't turn up, but nobody could answer if he set to actually appear today or not.

I have to admit I am not a huge fan of AJ, not for his policies or beliefs, I just find him too loud and in your face, when I watch his video's he doesn't seem to care or even be aware of those around him, I have often seen the embarrassment on some of their faces when the megaphone comes out.

But that is just down to me, like people dislike clowns, I have this thing about loud in your face people, was very close to one and I couldn't take much more and did a runner.

I like my peace and quiet to much I guess.

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very interesting

the plot thickens.

I felt the same way.

good post *

the "close scrutiny stuff " at the bottom of the pages has always bothered me.

what seems to be the problem?

the truth?

whilst many people here had higher hopes about what alex jones announcement would be, this does have the potential to be very important although that may not be immediately evident. this could be a great tool to wake further people up and put pressure on the government. i say good on alex and charlie for doing what they have done, it will be interesting to see what unfolds for the rest of the week. the truth needs to get out there and hopefully this will be covered by the media. if this succeeds in its original purpose then im sure many people will be praising alex and charlie, this is just the beginning

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Originally posted by Retseh
I watched a show last night which addressed every single one of the 9/11 truthers conspiracy allegations and systematically took every one to pieces with factual evidence.

These people, Sheen included will never accept the truth, it was a terrorist attack, end of story. If people want to spend the rest of their lives trying to prove otherwise, go for it, you'll ultimately end up looking just as stupid as the Moon truthers now do.

I did see that show last night aswell. I was pleased to see it mainly because of the attempts to debunk the truthers. Try and be unbaised to either side, the truthers and the goverment, and listen...thats exactly what i have done and am still doing. Im sorry but i would much prefer it was a true terroist attack, but simple logic and understanding ALL the gathered evidence, TV reports, Witness reports, Pictures, the dissapearing wreckage in PA and the Pentagon, BULIDING 7 (thats a real ringer), the "Omission" Report......GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK!! I watched this so i can be proved wrong, because i wish i was, and all it did was reinforce my belief that we were screwed by our government just as we have been and continue to.

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I don't see what the big deal is about AJ putting this out. It's a letter asking for a meeting regarding 9/11 quoting facts. It's basically saying read this fictional account of what I have to say backed up with the evidence.

I have no issue with this. If anything the unthinking public will read it and check the facts out. It's like hollywood propoganda in reverse exposing the truth.

Just what we need.

More washed up hollywood actors looking for a role in politics.

What's so damn earth-shattering about Charlie Sheen's opinon and "fantasy" interview?

This is just stooopid.

It's not even anything new.

Charlie has barked in the past. Big deal. Why all the re-hash of old news?

If anything, this deceitful move is yet another distraction from something else that is going on.

Originally posted by Beefcake
All i know is that i got a mass U2U from admin to digg the Hoax story. So there is an active effort going on at ATS to take full advantage of this to hurt Alex.

The worst part is i have never gotten a U2U to digg a story even the most amazing stories that have been posted and broken here at ATS i've never gotten one but i get one for the AJ hoax story.

Pretty telling.

Can you post a new thread, including a screen shot.

This is incredible if you ask me. And needs thread... I find it incredible that this site actually sent emails to bash Jones.

Obama will be staying away from Charlie and the truthers.
The same for any of the well known conspiracies.
He is not the conspiracy president.
Now if you get some grass root support and get a head of steam up, the
Alex Jones of the world might get the job done.
Never say never.
Sooner or later the coin will flip to the other side.

Originally posted by azzllin
From what I have read on the links provided, Reuters especially, I haven't seen this getting any bad press, ...

Doesn't the House of Rothschild own Rueters as well as several other media giants?

Sounds like all of this is a staged diversion.

I say forget 9-11 and look what's happening in your back yard right now...or it will be too late.

One morning you will wake up and find a toll booth at the end of your street. Or they will be "relocating" homeless refugees to your house. (Look forward to that after the census.) Something is up or AJ wouldn't be trying to make such a big stir (DIVERSION) by bringing in his Illuminati buddies.

When they present with the right hand---in your face....you'd better look behind their back because the left hand is holding the real explosive.

Originally posted by billybob
that's impossible, because even the official agencies like the FBI and NIST do not stand by what the media peddles as truth.

Show me your evidence.

the FBI doesn't have evidence connecting osama to 9/11, and the NIST studies conclusions are based almost completely on imaginary scenarios, and the 9/11 commissioners admit that the report is inaccurate and incomplete.

Here's the problem with people like you, you either make stuff up, or peddle half truths as fact, so here's a few real facts for you.

This is the testimony of Dale Watson, Executive Assistant Director of the FBI stating the quote "clear and irrefutable" involvement of bin Laden in the 9/11 attacks, along with a summary of supporting evidence.

www.fbi.gov...

Not good enough? the FBI are all liars? their evidence is fabricated?

Well how about a video of bin Laden himself ADMITTING his involvement - this is an english language translation of his words in that video on Al Jazeera no less:

english.aljazeera.net...

Still not evidence enough for you? probably not, nothing ever is.

so, i don't really know what people like you are on about.

I on the other hand know exactly what people like you are on about. You are one of an increasing number of people who are incapable of accepting world changing events such as 9/11 without instantly defaulting to a conspiracy mode.

The bigger the event, the bigger your created conspiracy.

If you spent as much time on structural engineering forums as you do in here, you would understand what REALLY happened on 9/11.

The truth really is out there, it certainy isn't in here.

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USAma bin laden on fbi's most wanted list

show me where it mentions 911 on that page. when asked why, the FBI replied, "we have no hard evidence linking him to the case".
you think the FBI hasn't seen the faked fatty bin laden video?

“The tests showed that the floors were capable of considerable sagging without collapse.”
(NCSTAR 1-6 page xliv, para3)

“Finding 7: All four tests demonstrated that the floor assemblies were capable of sagging without
failure. The unrestrained test, which had two 0.875 in. bolts fastening the main truss to the truss
seats, did not sag sufficiently to bear on the bolts.” (NCSTAR 1-6 page lxxii, para4)

“Finding 8: All four test assemblies supported their full design load under standard fire conditions for two hours without collapse.” (NCSTAR 1-6 page lxxii, para5)

i'm not really gonna get into it much more than that, because i know i will never convince you of anything. you clearly have had your mind made up for you.
the real world physical tests' results that the NIST made were thrown out the window in favour of GIGO simulations, because the real world tests did not "match observation" of what happened at the towers. NIST fit the data to the predtermined conclusion, and they admit that their theory is JUST A THEORY.

there was no "pancake" collapse. the media still pushes one.
the NIST says, "no pancake collapse".
the NIST says "our theory", and the media says "NIST PROVED with SCIENCE".
the NIST did ZERO study on collapse propagation, calling it "inevitable", but the media will say the NIST study was "complete.

In its recent reply to family members Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, scientists Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, architect Richard Gage and the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, NIST states: "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."

from here: NIST admits failure

i don't type this for you debbies, i type for the lurkers and fence-sitters who are easily swayed by the propaganda onslaught of the shadow rulers.



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Jones is just trying to divert everyone elsewhere, away from the pressing issues at hand like Mandatory H1N1 Vaccine's, Quarrentine, Socialized Healthcare, Martial Law i think after all this time 9/11 can wait a bit more dont you.

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It IS a diversion . Stick with the issues at hand or before you know it the tyrrants will have the lead once again, right now keeping on top of everything speaking out on the issues at hand we are throwing a wrench in their plans get off topic and AWAY from whats going on and they get the lead once again. There is time for 9/11 but NOT for the issues at hand. Stay with it folks DONT be DIVERTED!

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I don't understand Sheen, he claims to be someone looking for the truth and yet I see him on Direct TV/Hanes commercials. I can't trust anyone who will sit there and do commercials and feed the beast and yet turn around and pretend to be one of us. Just seems like he's trying to get himself some more attention to me.

And Alex Jones has given me one less reason to trust him, I used to think he was an okay guy but after a while I tired of him hyping things or parading speculation as fact. Now he spends a whole day hyping a fake interview with the President (conducted by a B-grade actor who spends his time as a corporate whore doing commercials) as the most important announcement in his 14 years of broadcasting?




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9/11 is the pretense for taking away all the rights of the citizens, going to war, police state lockdown, and excessive state secrecy and the spying on ALL americans.
when enough people are aware of the 9/11 lie, the process of freedom to fascism can be reversed, and americans and the rest of the world can drop the "terror" farce.
terrorists are just common criminals, and the whole terror issue should be dealt with as a law enforcement issue, not a blanket lockdown on all of society.

the h1n1 farce is just another wing of the same bird. it's just the another strain of the flu, only fatal to the same people who would die from any other flu, and there is no need for forced vaccinations, forced quarantines or mass detention centres. they are putting all these things in place to turn the world into a giant slave colony.

i mean, we're ALREADY slaves to the banksters, but at least we could walk around without someone sticking a rubber glove up our butt everytime we cross a border or get on an airplane.

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No one is trying to hurt Alex Jones it is what it is and that is called a DIVERSION. WE, Americans need to stay on top of what is at hand right now and that IS H1N1 Mandatory vaccines, Incarcerations for Quarrentine, Socialized Healthcare, they have always found ways to DISTRACT us when the need arises and this time it is through Alex Jones. Listen ANYONE that has ever exposed the tyrrants for what they are and what their plans are have been Murdered EVERYONE EVENTUALLY dont you find it the least bit suspicious when it comes to Jones former, that we know of CIA? We wont have to worry about 9/11 if they follow through with their plans, if we get diverted and on something that is NOT a pressing issue at the moment.

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Just got a letter from FEMA to purchase flood insurance when i dont need it we are not on a flood plain hahaha just lettin us know they are there