Another Warning to America From Army Soldier.

I watched this last night and just came back to watch it again - and as stated above it has been removed.

My thinking is that he has somehow been privy to some info and as a "gut reaction" posted the video. That is was a Knee-Jerk reaction from the fear he believes is a real threat.

I totally believe He Believes the info!

How he got the info I am not sure - someone in a bar that had too much to drink and said more then they should have?? An aid to an upper-up that saw something and passed it along?

One of the reasons I wanted to rewatch - the patch....

Was he saying that if we see a military person(s) with the patch (flag) upside-down that they are "on our side"? Friendly and not foe?

Someone above alluded to this but I want to clarify for myself.

He seemed almost more afraid of the "real people" and their reaction to the military than to the threat itself. By stating over and over that He Was Not The Bad Guy (only following orders).

A lot of "us" are armed and will protect ourselves - his message (that I got out of this) was (again) HE is not the enemy - don't shoot first.

So - yes I believe he believes everything he said. Is it REAL info = ???

reply to post by The Revealer


This guy is one of the biggest conspiracy theorists on YouTube. He is completely full of BS. Who knows if he was/is actually in the service, but he believes every crazy conspiracy theory out there and has cried wolf on multiple occasions. And his body language, clearing his throat, etc., gives a good indication of his knowledge of his own BS.

reply to post by dwiggen


So, you're saying the Operations Security trumps your oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic? Does that also mean that you put the service above your first born? When faced with the death of your child versus carrying out an order ... which is it?

Basically, what I'm asking is: Where's the line for you? When do you say, "This is B.S., I'm not following that order ... you must be friggin' crazy!"

Or, would you just follow orders unconditionally?

I believe what you need to watch is not exactly our military but other countries militaries that are here in the USA and the UN.

I read somewhere that our government """knows""" that our military would not kill there own people so they have other countries militaries and they say they are training them well, yeah! they are training them I bet to do the dirty deeds.

I have a vacation coming up in Oct. and all I can say is nobody better mess with an old lady on the way for a vacation.

reply to post by PowerSlave


Thank You! I was getting annoyed at the OP for not summarizing and giving their opinion like you are supposed to. I have always been extremely terrified of nuclear bombs and well I live in FL!
watched some movie the other day before bed, not a good idea, and it was about a nuclear attack in the US, Kansas I believe and it gave me nightmares. Funny thing is yesterday they launched a rocket from the Cape and I am 20mins from there and can see the launch pads from my balcony. Well I had no idea it was going up and the house started shaking and all I see is some thing going through the air. It freaked me out until I realized it was a rocket not a bomb...
Back to OP.....If this person is telling the truth this is scary and I want out of FL now! I would rather be safe than sorry....I would love to be in Canada right now.
On another note a friend of mine knows a psychic and yes I know that is a touchy subject for some but she has always been very accurate and is well known in Cassadaga, FL. She told my friend to get out of FL in October because something bad was going to happen and she has been saying this for a while. I have never talked to her but I trust my friend because I know the readings she has done and its quite scary at times. When she told me this months ago I made nothing of it UNTIL people started mentioning October not being a good month and that something like a bomb would go off. So now I am a little concerned. Nukes freak me out and I hope nothing happens and I just come off looking like a paranoid freak......

Weird I had deja vu multiple times while typing this...

Originally posted by mappam

Was he saying that if we see a military person(s) with the patch (flag) upside-down that they are "on our side"? Friendly and not foe?

If that's true, how are those of us without bright, colorful target indicators supposed to identify ourselves?

I left my browser open and apparently still had half of the video in the browsers buffer. Here it is for anyone that missed the original.

REMINDER TO ALL:
WE NEED TO SAVE EVERYTHING THAT IS INTERESTING TO OUR HARD DRIVES BEFORE IT'S DISSAPEARS.



Here's the direct url incase the above video doesn't work. (Didn't in preview anyways)

media.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by mblahnikluver


We must be neighbors! I can also watch the launches from my yard.

See above for my post on this (deleted) video.

I am also worried about the east coast (well duh of course I am) but have no way of leaving. I can't convince anyone around me that there is a threat......Too many False Predictions in the past.

So my only hope is that if IT hits this coast I won't suffer but "go" quickly!

This video got me thinking,

Why not have every one of us here at ATS spread the word by calling into a local radio station in their hometown and mentioning it live on the air. " Beware of the G20 next month, There may be bombs set to go off"?

Of course this would do absolutely nothing but make you a target for ridicule and the butt of many jokes for the rest of the day. But the point of the message is not to be believed, it is for people to look back on after it happens and say to themselves, "Oh my GOD he was right. what else is going on that People have been trying to tell us". It would serve to wake people up after the fact.


But then I remembered, If just one of us did that we could quite literally be labeled a domestic terrorist and carted away to an undisclosed location.

(i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

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Boy Ohh Boy do they have their bases covered. I hope none of you still think that we are free. We are like prisoners who are told "You are free,....... Just stay away from the Razor wire fence".

Edit to add: I am having a good laugh at all of the self implied experts who seem to "know" this guy is legit or "Know" he is full of it. The way he looks, the way he dresses, the cabinits in his room, the way he speaks, his mannerisms, his patches, the way he parts his hair, the way he clears his friggin throat, this is good stuff. If I had a dollar for every member who thought they knew something.......lol.

I for one happen to know without a doubt that he is active military by the way he took of his bdu top.
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reply to post by tyranny22


Well no of course not. But as it stands right now, there would be no reason to jump the gun and assume those crazy orders are going to be given. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution and the American people, but what a lot of people neglect to mention is that I also swore an oath to obey the officers appointed above me. And as of right now, the officers appointmed above me, have given me orders to be discreet about things that might betray operational security (not talking about anything specific mind you, just in general). Until those officers start giving orders to kill or detain American civilians, then I will continue to do what they ask of me.

There's a fine line here between sounding a legitimate warning, and just being paranoid. The problem is that both can potentially ruin a life, so while I applaud anyone who stands up for what they believe in, I also have the right to denounce those who I believe to be false in their beliefs. Whether they are or not has yet to be determined.

Why not have every one of us here at ATS spread the word by calling into a local radio station in their hometown and mentioning it live on the air. " Beware of the G20 next month, There may be bombs set to go off"?

That's essentially a bomb threat. Don't do that.

reply to post by patmac


did you read the rest of my post? I kind of covered that.

I would not necessarily need to be a threat of any kind. More of a warning of something you heard. A concern? Even still, they have that covered,(TPTB) and you will be promptly rounded up and taken away never to be seen again for trying to give your fellow AmeriKKKans a heads up.

reply to post by dwiggen


I completely understand what you're saying and any person in the military would agree with you.

The only problem is ... if this is true (which is a question unto itself), then whomever is sending the order down the pipeline that they'll be detaining Domestic Threats is perfectly aware of a G.I.'s mental hierarchy and has adjusted the plan accordingly to deal with such. Meaning, you would carry out all orders that were critical to sustaining the plan of action and wouldn't be asked to do something that would violate your oath until after it is too late to stop.

It sounds like the gentleman in the video has taken this train of thought into consideration and that precisely why he's posting the video. To warm people BEFORE it's too late. If a soldier is denying an order to fire upon a civilian, something went critically wrong LONG before that soldier was ever issued the order.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the soldier openly says that this is only a conspiracy theory. He has no official knowledge of intel to confirm that this theory is true ... thus, he wouldn't be violating OPSEC. If he DID know it were true ... or even heard through the grapevine that an order was coming down - then, he'd be violating the OPSEC. But, as it stands he's very blatant that what he's presenting is just conclusions that he come to from rumors that are being passed around.

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reply to post by justme9562


I wouldn't be so sure. In order to "clearly" identify through body language someone is lying, you need to first be able to develop a base line of their 'normal' actions when talking about something you both know to be true. Without that base to go off of, you can't just cold-watch a video and determine he's lying.

For instance.

I'm a federal agent. He keeps looking off to the right while talking. In the 'book', for a person to look off consistently to the right is an indicator they are recalling things from memory and not making stuff up.

Do I know whether or not he's lying? No. But just from watching the video, he seems to believe what he's saying to be true. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions on whether he's lying or not because he clears his throat. I don't know if you noticed, but he's also smoking and drinking something. Seems to me that when I have a smoke, more often than not I cough or clear my throat to get the gunk up or out.

I hope what he's saying isn't true - but if it is, maybe this is a warning we would be wise to heed.

I really don't like any of this, but I'll share what I know. I suspect you won't like either.

I know someone in DOD who has mentioned very strange "Movements" of supplies around the US - Uniforms, medical gear, weapons, temporary housing, non-lethals etc... This person would know as they are involved in some part of procurement on the civilian side. They have stated that orders for materials have been way up for months and warehousing levels are soaring well above normal. I've also heard from other sources that military housing preparation requests are also way up - like "expect alot of soldiers on base soon." Same individual confirmed that this video appears to have been taken in a typical military dormitory based on the decor and the paint color.

Next, I believe this guy is out of Ft. Belvoir in Fairfax, VA based on his descriptions of location - read about their specialties HERE.. Based on his insignias, his location, his mannerisms I'd call the guy legit but who really knows... He seems to be sincere and certainly exhibits military mannerisms. If he is from Belvoir, this makes it even more legit as Belvoir houses the HQs for the Defense Logistics Agency, the Defense Contract Audit Agency, the Defense Technical Information Center, and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, agencies of the United States Department of Defense. Pay special attention to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency whose mission it is to protect the US homeland and its interests abroad from chemical, biological, radiologcal, nuclear and high explosives threats. The only other option would be Ft. Detrick - and we all know that this is the HQ for Biological Weapons R&D.

As I try to piece all of this together, different scenarios are merging and I find myself wondering if there are going to be a littany of operations unleashed at once. Let me expound - and be forewarned, some of this is from what I had posted in warrenb's thread. At first I suspected it would have to do with riots due to the upcoming collapse of several HUGE banks coupled with the swine flu - to which I contributed the following to warrenb's thread:

"There is a double-front setting up against the American public; the impending crash of the financial market and the H1N1 flu. Those two events are likely to bring commerce, and civilization as we know it, to a grinding halt. They have been aware of this probablity for months now. They have been hopeful to avoid the financial collapse with the passing of the last stimulus, but it hasn't quite worked out. In fact, neither has the quantitative easing. Frankly the Treasury and Fed have run out of options to continue artificially floating the stock market. There has been more and more activity on COMEX with people (including banks and foreign share holders) requesting that their contracts be filled and that the gold be delivered. The problem here is that the obligations exceed the holdings by almost 5 to 1 or more depending on whose info you believe! Secondly, gold on deposit by creditor nations has been "leased" out and cannot be delivered on demand as required. This is really going to muck up the entire financial situation. Finally throw the whole derivatives quagmire and the bad commercial paper coming due and it is easy to see how the already underfunded banking system is going to be wrung out! I fully expect to start seeing bank runs take place in a matter of weeks as the news becomes progressively negative and bearish. The Swine Flu simply becomes the icing on the cake."

The financial news come from a few friends and associates inside HUGE banks who are increasingly worried about their employer's solvency with a few expressing that the banks will likely be broke within weeks and once the news is leaked, bank runs will begin.

I couple all of that with this, another "insider" within DOD who has intimate connections in NorthComm has heard that there was a 70% probability of the need for NorthComm to "engage in domestic missions within weeks to months" and that preparations should be undertaken immediately - this is now a few weeks old. This seems to me to corroborate what I had learned from a completely unrelated individual who discussed the movements of supplies, warehousing and requisitions.

Now, please let me stress that I know nothing here. I am simply trying like crazy to connect all of the dots which are poping up like a child with a bad case of chicken pox! I do know people who work for the government, the DOD and are in the military - none of whom have any meaningful access to "eyes-only" information - but hear what's going on. I don't know gang... there's simply too much chatter and it all seems connected. I really feel like something is coming. Get prepared and stay prepared!

reply to post by kozmo


i was in the norwegian army as conscript. in the cavalry, driving leopard tanks (awsome machine to be honest) and i have meet my share of yank's during excercises etc in 04-05, was supposed to go the telemark batallion. too train and then go to afganistan mission but i declined the offer.

He is definitive military

all i can say just noticed this post, i will have too research, and read.

Do we really need to be wasting our time over a warning video with no clear warning?
Ok -G20. Check. I've been warned.

But what is the purpose of any warning but to tell folks to be vigilant and to prepare? Well, I dunno about you folks, but I am about as prepared as my govt. will legally allow me to be, lol, and I'm hyper vigilant bordering on paranoia already.

I do appreciate the thread, because I know a lot more about current Army BDU's now than I did. Maybe that's what I needed to know.

Originally posted by Griever0311

Originally posted by mappam

Was he saying that if we see a military person(s) with the patch (flag) upside-down that they are "on our side"? Friendly and not foe?

If that's true, how are those of us without bright, colorful target indicators supposed to identify ourselves?

Said soldier would be "Out of Uniform" and be immediately required to fix said patch. No if ands or buts about it.

reply to post by The Revealer

Interesting quote he has on his uTube page -

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It makes you think, about 2 weeks ago i read a thread about this "future man" that was from Italy, and he claimed he came from the future and that he was posting warnings from history books in his time, and he claimed that there was going to be a nuclear attack on Washington D.C around November, and few catastrophes between November and October. This is what he said

A guy is writing on a forum for youth issues and general interests, in Italy. He says that in his time he' s doing a test for his agency because Net-Time Travel has just been invented.
I will translate you all of his messages. He says he lives in Italy and he writes from a future history book.

Navigatore del tempo, this is his name, translated is TimeSurfer, something like that- It's important to advise the youth. I know that there is probably some of you who have contacts with the United States.
2009, your time-line is on the brink of a war. But some people is already studgying the marveillous Timewave Zero Theory somewhere. I will write from a history book the major events of your period coming.
You can't stop the war to happen, because it's already all been planned. I'm sorry I didn't came earlier, but Net-Time Travel Syste, NTTS is in a testing mode. It has just been invented.
I know that there is a huge secret involving Federal Reserve right now, in United States. Believe me, it's so big that will cause havoc and scandal in every part of the world during September- October 2009.
In your time-line there is so much skepticism, but, you know, people telling that a nuclear attack on Washington DC has been planned are right. They are just right.
If you know someone from that city, tell them to escape as soon as they can.

It's that nuclear attack that will ignite World War. North Korea will receive a nuke as well. Israel and Iran will start to do battles again.
I have to tell you, don't worry so much for global warming in years to come. Your climate is going to become extremely cold, slowly, anyway.
2010 is also known to be " a Year without Summer ". There are so many threats for climate and global cooling in your time-zone.

This could concern you, but at least something of 2012 is real, but it will happen in different dates. December 21 2012 is a good day for everybody who came out of the gloom and doom.
I know there is a movie about 2012 prophecy coming in 2009. Well, it will reveal itself as a very good guessing movie for the future. No earthquakes in every part of the world, anyway.
Obama is not a one term. He will end like Kennedy. There is going to be some change in England, Charles is going to be king.
I have to warn you, for sure. Don't have faith in the swine flu vaccine. It's a disaster.
China and Japan are going to become chaotic places, where people fights so much that it will cause havoc.
Americans won't be happy to know that in months to come, cirumcision will become mandatory for every newborn. It's just to fight Aids. But it's a awkward thing to do. People won't be happy.

Nano-technology, a little part of what has been invented, will work as a very good distraction for rich people during World War Three.
Soon they will patent a nano-engine that will work in cars development.
China will have a drug market so big that it has to be stopped. People right there want to escape the grim reality they have to live.

Major disasters? September 2009, Washington DC, December 2011 and November 2012.
Crops will be damaged in Europe and Ireland. Ireland is going to be a place of fighters, rebellious people. The toxic fungus will ruin all their work for food.
Civil War in United States? Spring 2010.
Next presidents? Biden, Michelle Obama, Miss Clinton.
Cholera is a disease going to come, but is a shame because it's from labs.
Unfortunately, together with Yellow Fever, it will hit Europe for mistake.

Digital artificial paper is a thing to come. Cancer's cure. Vertical farms building.
The beginning of Claytronics Technology Age. I'm sure many of you don't know what it is. Well, it's a fantastic good thing for everybody.

United States will have two huge earthquakes, one in Seattle and one in Los Angeles. They will be around 9.0.
November 2010, a surprising discovery will change so many things. It's going to be something explaining what is coming in 2012. Don't worry, you will enjoy