Boy admits raping nine-year-old

Boy admits raping nine-year-old

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A 12-year-old schoolboy has admitted a charge that he raped a nine-year-old boy.

The defendant, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was 11 at the time of the attack in June.

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All I can say is WTF???? Is this world just getting crazier and worse?? I mean, how? 11??? The bad things in this world are being commited by younger and younger people, its like an estate up where I live, you see 10 year olds walking round with bottles of cider and weilding metal bars. God help us all in the not to distant future, the next Hitlers gonna be a 2 year old with a grudge.

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That's insane. Just truly truly insane...

What sort of a society do we live in that allows this sort of thing to happen?
These children are just allowed to run amok, with no or little consequence, whilst their parents look the other way...
There are a couple of kids around here like that, they swear constantly, some smoke, and all are disruptive..

Don't their parents know anything about discipline? How are you going to raise a level headed child who will do well later in life with this sort of laxity?

I don't understand the world anymore...

Thanks for bringing it up though.

When I was 12, I had no concept of sex...

I just wanted to hunt, shoot and go outside with the adult men and imitate what they did... How they stood and such...

I was really into sports too, but not girls...

There is something seriously wrong in the wiring of this kids head and I hope he gets help...

Semper

Different 11 year olds have different life experiences, and different development and interest.

Quite a lot of sexual perverts start their careers around 11-14 years old.

i agree, but.. this is nothing new. its been going on for at LEAST the last 10-20 years. my brother was 13 and his gf was 13 when she got pregnant. sad, wrong.. yes.. but reality.

he was a troubled kid and as a result things like that happened.

the same thing happens in many places.. you just dont hear about it.

Wow, that almost mind boggling that an 11 year old could do this. Make me wonder what would bring him to this at a mere 11 years old. Was he himself raped? Where are his parents? This is really sad and these types of crimes committed by children seem to happen more and more often.

reply to post by woogleuk


IMO...

Responsibility lies with the parents. Whatever happened to teaching morals and respect? Today it's this, tomorrow it's....

Originally posted by SLAYER69
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IMO...

Responsibility lies with the parents. Whatever happened to teaching morals and respect? Today it's this, tomorrow it's....

Parents can't be everywhere...they can teach all they like. But the child still has to listen and obey for it to have any effect.

Parents cant be everywhere that is true but what isnt true is that parents are not responsible for the childrens behaviour. I JUST HOPE that one day we can charge parents with the same crimes that their children commit and maybe people will think twice about having kids and when they do have kids that they teach them and be proper parents.

[edit on 8-9-2009 by loner007]

its not parents. myself and my other 3 brothers turned out fine and normal. but my one brother was the troublemaker and had a baby at 13.

it was him, and only him. my parents did all they could and it was never enough. they ended up divorcing over my brother because it stressed out the family too much.

Things like this probably have happened since the beginning of humans. I don't think it is that much of a surprise... *crap* happens, you just gotta be fortunate enough for it not to happen to you.

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There is another thread on here about whether or not it should be OK to smack your kids, I said on there, and I will say again here, yes, you slap a dogs nose for pooping on the carpet, you should smack your child (hand or bum, NOT face) if he does something wrong. In this case, which is a bit more serious than drinking or pinching some biscuits, i reckon there maybe has been a history of sexual abuse in the guilty kid, if not, where or what influenced his actions? TV? films? No-one but the kid can say for certain. I do disagree about the kids name being withheld, he performed an adult action, therefore should be treat like an adult, maybe a little bit of shame coupled with jail time may deter further similar actions in the future.

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Normally I'd agree with you.

But I don't know if there's any hope for this boy (Either now).

11 years old and he was already raping kids? I'd be willing to bet, you'll find a couple of girls that were raped as well.

There's a law and order SVU episode just like this (Which is probably based on a similar event.)

I'd be really interested what gets these kids started so young. Is it exposure to pornography at an early age? Well, I had exposure to it at that age and I didn't end up like this.

Then comes the question of how should these children be treated? Should they be locked up with adults? Should they be sent to juvenille facilities and have therapy until they are of age?

I remember when i was 12. Im not sure what the T&Cs let me say about this but i was attracted to girls and sometimes my pants would not fit . But i did not have a concept of sex let alone the thought of raping another boy.
Man... 12 year old gay rape. What do you even do with a kid like that i doubt he really knew what he was doing but you can't let it go unpunnished.

Originally posted by woogleuk
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There is another thread on here about whether or not it should be OK to smack your kids, I said on there, and I will say again here, yes, you slap a dogs nose for pooping on the carpet, you should smack your child (hand or bum, NOT face) if he does something wrong. In this case, which is a bit more serious than drinking or pinching some biscuits, i reckon there maybe has been a history of sexual abuse in the guilty kid, if not, where or what influenced his actions? TV? films? No-one but the kid can say for certain. I do disagree about the kids name being withheld, he performed an adult action, therefore should be treat like an adult, maybe a little bit of shame coupled with jail time may deter further similar actions in the future.

children at that age, and even younger, are all curious about their bodies and sexuality, as silly as that sounds. its just like in the playground in 1st grade when kids say "ill show you mine if you show me yours"

its a natural thing.. people used to get MARRIED at age 12.

we act like this is so insane but honestly.. its not. the fact that it was rape, well, of course that is awful. but at the same time, i can see how that kid might not have understood that what he was doing was wrong. i mean look around you. look at the media. kids are being raised to dance on poles and run around having sex with people.

how can you NOT expect to see this kind of stuff happening?

He was probably a Roman Legionnaire in a previous life. Or perhaps he was a member of Alexander the Great's army.

Or maybe he is just imitating his family.

Kids learn it somewhere. It does not happen naturally.

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I understand what you are saying, but how could he have not known it was wrong?? The nine year old may not have understood what was happening to him, probably thought he was getting a weird form of a beating, but the 11 year old?? surely he must have understood, i know its only 2 years difference, but at that age its a big difference. The only things that (i can think of) comes to mind in the "he doesn't know what he is doing" sense is that he has seen a film or TV series like oz (i think its oz, the male prison drama) where a guy has raped another guy as a form of torture // punishment, or he has had it done to himself and doesn't realise the sexual nature of it, but at 11 I would imagine he has starting realising what sex is.

Originally posted by woogleuk
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I understand what you are saying, but how could he have not known it was wrong?? The nine year old may not have understood what was happening to him, probably thought he was getting a weird form of a beating, but the 11 year old?? surely he must have understood, i know its only 2 years difference, but at that age its a big difference. The only things that (i can think of) comes to mind in the "he doesn't know what he is doing" sense is that he has seen a film or TV series like oz (i think its oz, the male prison drama) where a guy has raped another guy as a form of torture // punishment, or he has had it done to himself and doesn't realise the sexual nature of it, but at 11 I would imagine he has starting realising what sex is.

yeah i wouldnt doubt it.. im telling you ... media has a BIG part of how people act. if a child who is still learning the ways of the world sees a show where some guy is raping a guy, or having sex with a guy... he might think its okay.

media should just go away in my opinion. we'd be better off w/o it

Originally posted by calihan_12
im telling you ... media has a BIG part of how people act. if a child who is still learning the ways of the world sees a show where some guy is raping a guy, or having sex with a guy... he might think its okay.

media should just go away in my opinion.

And I'm saying it's the parents responsibility to monitor what their children watch on TV or movies the internet etc.