Why The Fear Of Death? Better Things To Come After Life!

Ok, so in response to all of this fear mongering in regards to FEMA Death camps and 2012 and about a million other topics, I wanted to pose the question.

Why go out of your way to live? Now of couse I am intelligent enough to know that the human species must go on after any sort of catastrohpic event, however all things must come to an end.

All civilizations fall, all species that dominate beome extinct to be replaced by others.

As for the fear of dying. Why? If you live your life in fear of death, you can never truly live? Why not embrace the after life? Or the non after life depending on your belief structure.

In my opinion anything has to be better than this when all is said and done. It may be the fear of dying a horrible death. Either through means of torture, drowing, fire, disease and a host of other possible outcomes.

So I ask, if you are afraid of death, why? Why not embrace death as a beautiful thing, just like a birth is.

Any thoughst ATS?

Edit for language.

~Keeper

[edit on 9/7/2009 by tothetenthpower]

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In relative agreeance with you.

This may sound cliche..but it is not fear of Death we have..is fear of the UNKNOWN...

..if i knew there is an After Life i would not be fearing death..but since i don't know what is after death (if there is anything after it) i have a logical reason to fear...

Well I'll chime in. I do agree with you and a few years ago I had a experience and almost died. Before that time I was afraid of dying but after my near death experience I can honestly say that I do not fear death and actually look forward to it when it does happen, it will be my time. I think for most it is the fear of the unknown, and that was the case for me until my experience. I've come to the realization that death is a birth in essence, and it will happen to all of us eventually.

Fear of the unknown is a good answer, however perhaps I can play devil's advovate here.

Remember when you refused to eat something as a kid? And your parents would say, "try it before you say you don't like it".

The same concept can be applied here.

If there is nothing after death, well then there is nothing and you have nothing to fear.

If there is something after death, and in my belief Hell does not exist so I do not add that into the equation. If there is something it is mostly likely grander and more beautiful than life.

I can't say that for certainty, I have had near death experiences but what I experienced could have been the real thing, or my brain flushing my body with chemical '___' among other things.

~Keeper

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Why The Fear Of Death? Better Things To Come After Life!

You know what, it's almost spooky because about an hour ago, I had the same thought, almost verbatim to what you wrote! I was looking at another thread and was going to say something about how I have better things to do in the afterlife so all this fear mongering stuff doesn't really get to me. I didn't post it because I got sidetracked by a kid bouncing all over me, but I though it. Weird!

I'm not afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens.

-Woody Allen

I think that says it all.

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I agree with you again, I think for some it's harder to let go of the fear and just accept what is inevitable. To live freely without the fear of death weighing them down is hard for some.People, not all, like to believe they have control. We know this is just a illusion but for some it is just comfortable to live in the illusion.
In all reality we don't know what happens after death, we have no guarantee of what lies ahead and for some this is too much not to cause fear. Again, I really do agree with you and when my time comes I'll be happily awaiting whatever is next.

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That is a bit strange, may I ask which thread?

I got the idea after reading through the whole move to denver thing and the thread that made that one, national guard warnings or whatever.

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mikerussellus

Wow, thats a great quote from Woody Allen.

Thanks for the imput I had never thought about it in that way.

~Keeper

no matter if we spend our whole life fearing death, or not thinking about it at all and having as much fun as possible in the end it all means nothing...whatever we do in life is pointless because in the end we all just die and nothing happens there is no afterlife. if there was wouldnt you make some effort to communicate with living people and tell them? im sure somebody would of achieved this by now. ive learned to face the facts, its a pure mistake humans even exist we are nothing special and when we go, we go.

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I remember reading a thread that asked what would you do on Dec. 21st 2012.

I replied, Sit on my roof and watch the wave. .

~Keeper

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I would disagree, not with your belief, but your method of getting there.

Let's remember that there is no such thing as truth.

That's because everything is subject to the human experience. Do you not believe in ghosts, or paranormal activity?

Some people have claimed to have spoken to dead spirits, would you refute them based on your belief? What if they provided evidence of such things?

Do not be so quick to dismiss an after life. After all, what an awful waste of an existance that would be.

~Keeper

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So why is suicide considered (at least in MOST societies) to be such taboo??

I know what some think is the correct response there.

Keeping in mind I have no religious bias in asking the question, purely intellectual curiosity.

But, will inject two words to those who will no doubt raise the "soul" and other religious aspects:

Free Will.

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I don't consider Suicide a problem really. ONLY however if it's done because of intense physical suffering.

To give an example.

If I were 55 and dignosed with some ridiculous form of cancer that was going to ravage my body and there was not getting out of it.

I would go to a country and have assisted suicide performed.

That's just my opinion however, some would disagree. I think it is ridiculous that people are shunned for taking their lives when it was entirely their decision.

Yes it is mostly senseless when done for trivial reasons and it hurts the people around that person, but again Free Will.

~Keeper

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Suicide is like giving the finger to life, and therefore to the source of life, and all suffering can be made meaningful, it just takes courage. There is no grace, no love, in suicide. It is a selfish act devoid of meaning and purpose. It's a terrible terrible tragedy when it happens. And is not our life simply on loan from the source of life anyway.. what right do WE have to pull the plug on our own life, and if there is no such thing as death, then it would be foolhardy to attempt an escape via suicide..

[edit on 7-9-2009 by OmegaPoint]

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to be honest your correct and i do have to consider ghosts ect...
i can never really be 100% sure there is no afterlife
but if there is an afterlife that we will be in forever
whats to point of this now? why dont we just start there?
these are thoughts that are in my head everyday
the more answers i get the more questions i have.

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Your life is your own. You have EVERY right to do with it as you please.

It's not about giving life the middle finger. It is with these little emo kids who off themselves cause their parents love them too much, but not the case with the example I gave above.

And I am not saying I would not fight it first, I am saying as a last resort, instead of spending the last 6 months of my life confined to a room, miserable and in pain, I choose death.

~Keeper

Originally posted by mind16
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but if there is an afterlife that we will be in forever
whats to point of this now? why dont we just start there?
these are thoughts that are in my head everyday
the more answers i get the more questions i have.

Well that is an interesting question. What is the point? To learn before moving on? Is this all just a prison planet? That is another question we will never know the answer to in life.

I myself have the same problem, the more I know, the more I want to know and the information simply isn' there. Sure I can formulate opinions on experiences all I want, but at the end of the day, they are just that.

Opinions.

~Keeper

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That is a bit strange, may I ask which thread?

Sure! It was one of the many FEMA coffin threads, lol. I had already posted what I thought in it, but was thinking that even if I'm wrong (because I don't think they're coffins/grave liners in the sense that some do on here), they can just throw me in one, lol! It's not that I WANT to die, but it's going to happen sooner or later anyway and if I end up in one of those things, I wont likely know about it or care.

I almost look forward to my afterlife though... not in a morbid way. I just think that, even though it's ironic, after we die, we'll finally understand what life was all about! I like irony too, so just one more reason I can enjoy it, HA!

I'm a positive thinker... maybe even TOO positive sometimes, if that's possible, but I think that "death" will truly be waking up.

Nobody asked to be born. Its all entirely involuntary. Add to that the fact that life is fragile and experiencing it can be very hard does not make it a beautiful thing. If there an afterlife, and I've seen no good evidence that there is, then this life is a prerequisite chore to be had prior to it. Noting more. I would hardly call that something positive considering all the negatives associated with life and living.

Perhaps if living things were born with an inner knowledge that an afterlife exists it would make the pains of life easier, but in my experience this just isn't the case. However the subjective nature of living does not make my experience count towards any ultimate truth and I could be very wrong on all my currently held opinions.

I've gotten over most of the fear of death. My big question is just what is the point of it all if there is an afterlife? I've read no good answers on this either. Why not just eliminate this existence and have everything exist in the afterlife only? That would seem to make the most sense to me. If there is an afterlife, this life is completely unecessary, IMO.