Report: Death Toll Among WTC Rescue Workers Soars

Report: Death Toll Among WTC Rescue Workers Soars

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Report: Death Toll Among WTC Rescue Workers Soars

The number of documented deaths among World Trade Center rescue
workers has reportedly soared since last year.A representative from
the New York State Department of Health told the New York Post that
817 workers have died since the attacks, up from 664 deaths last
September.

State researchers report at least 270 deaths were due to cancer, and
more than 200 from other illnesses.

The article also says about 150 workers suffered traumatic deaths ñ
such as in the line of duty, drug overdoses, assaults or suicides.

Officials

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The article goes on to say that 270 deaths were due to cancer, and more than 200 from other illnesses.

I find it interesting that signing a 'truther' form is what got Obama's czar fired.

It wasn't hateful things about whites, Repubs, or any really crazy thing - it was just signing a form.

Doesn't that even make the skeptics on here think?

Why is that more awful than any other divisive statement he has made?

What was in the buildings (besides asbestos) that could cause such weird illnesses (check out some of the other articles about the rare diseases discovered in survivors)?

www.theyeshivaworld.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Can the head of the FDA, Guiliani, Bush and all those responsible for lying to the firefighters and new yorkers in general about the quality of air after 911 GO IN FREAKING JAIL FOR MURDER PLEASE?

SOME JUSTICE FOR ONCE IN AMERICA?

2,998 people, not including the hijackers, lost their lives on September 11th. 817 people losing their lives due to health complications in the aftermath of September 11th is 27% - more than a fourth! - of the lives lost on that day.

That is absolutely inexcusable.

Every one of the people responsible for testing the site for toxins in the air and every one of the people responsible for assuring the public and the workers that the air was safe need to be held accountable. I think they should all be injected with an incurable cancer and refused treatment... but that's just me.

This needs to be investigated, i live in the UK so i know it does not concern me directly but if this was in my country i would expect heads to roll! How the hell can this happen and nobody be to blame!?

There are many goods threads on ATS about this problem known by the EPA from the beginning.

What a disgrace.

presented in this way as a stand alone total - the figure is utterly meaningless

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Can the head of the FDA, Guiliani, Bush and all those responsible for lying to the firefighters and new yorkers in general about the quality of air after 911 GO IN FREAKING JAIL FOR MURDER PLEASE?

SOME JUSTICE FOR ONCE IN AMERICA?

As the head of the EPA, Christine Toddy Whitman declared the air to
be "safe" just one week after 9/11. Little premature I would say.

While the number seems high, there is no way of assessing the number without some collateral data. How many workers were there? What are the ages of those who died? What kinds of illnesses did they die from? Are these data reliable?

As to the air quality after the attack and blaming the government, what was anyone to do about the situation? Were they supposed to just cordon off the Manhattan until the dust settled?

And what does Van Jones have to do with this? Nothing.

When the facts are known it is likely that there will be those who died as a result of exposure to toxic substances released during and after the attack. An attack carried out by al Qaeda.

[edit on 2009/9/6 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
presented in this way as a stand alone total - the figure is utterly meaningless

Since you took no time to elaborate on how you reached your conclusion, please explain how 817 volunteer workers dying because of poor scientific studies is "utterly meaningless"?

Would you feel the same way if a family member of yours was one of the 817? One person dying in the aftermath is one too many. The people who propagated the lie that the air was safe to breathe need to be held financially and criminally responsible.

Originally posted by skycopilot

Report: Death Toll Among WTC Rescue Workers Soars

www.theyeshivaworld.com

Report: Death Toll Among WTC Rescue Workers Soars

The number of documented deaths among World Trade Center rescue
workers has reportedly soared since last year.A representative from
the New York State Department of Health told the New York Post that
817 workers have died since the attacks, up from 664 deaths last
September.

State researchers report at least 270 deaths were due to cancer, and
more than 200 from other illnesses.

The article also says about 150 workers suffered traumatic deaths ñ
such as in the line of duty, drug overdoses, assaults or suicides.

Officials

(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.theyeshivaworld.com

I would assume they purposely let them be in danger while working the site...

Because after all........they are witnesses

Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
The people who propagated the lie that the air was safe to breathe need to be held financially and criminally responsible.

Again, what were the options after the attack?

Abandon Manhattan?

Would those who participated in the rescue and recovery efforts have left town until it was "safe?" I think not.

Do you remember the event at all?

It's easy to lay blame, but somewhat more difficult to lead in times of extreme duress.

reply to post by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
As to the air quality after the attack and blaming the government, what was anyone to do about the situation? Were they supposed to just cordon off the Manhattan until the dust settled?

Nonsense.

The government lied. Specifically, the EPA said it was safe when they knew otherwise.

Such misinformation led to a lack of appropriate measures to protect responders and work crews.

They denied the truth.

They lied.

Plain and simple.

My heart aches for these people and their families. These workers were heroes to all at the time - now nobody gives a crap about them. America should be totally ashamed.

I know there have been protests every year at Ground Zero about this and many first responders attend. All you ATS New Yorkers should get down there this year and show your support. I'm an Aussie and I have donated money to help the first responders myself.

Obama, Bush, the whole US government should be ashamed of how these men and women are being treated. I know that people who lived and worked in the area at the time time, or who were caught up in the dust clouds on the day have become ill too. The death toll of 9/11 is rising every year

Originally posted by loam

The government lied. Specifically, the EPA said it was safe when they knew otherwise.

So, let's assume that you're correct, even without credible evidence.

What would have been the options?

Do you think that the NYFD and everyone else would have abandoned island?

Do you think that they could have been removed without force? How much force? How long would that have taken?

Would America at the time have been satisfied to let the site just smolder for what, six months, a year, eternity?

But, the truth is, loam, that you have no evidence that anyone lied. You don't know what data they were dealing with and you don't have any idea what might have happened if they had said the air quality is deadly, even if they knew it was true.

This is the worst kind of "Monday morning quarterbacking."

[edit on 2009/9/6 by GradyPhilpott]

W. House Molded EPA's 9/11 Reports

The Environmental Protection Agency's internal watchdog says White House officials pressured the agency to prematurely assure the public that the air was safe to breathe a week after the World Trade Center collapse.

"Competing considerations, such as national security concerns and the desire to reopen Wall Street, also played a role in EPA's air quality statements," the report said.

The New York Times, which reported on the inspector general's findings before they were made public, points out that officials from the EPA and from the White House criticized the report, saying investigators misunderstood the complexity of the situation after the terror attack.

The agency's initial statements in the days following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks were not supported by proper air quality monitoring data and analysis, EPA's inspector general, Nikki L. Tinsley, says in a 155-page report released late Thursday.

More...

Rice Reportedly Signed Off On 9/11 "Safe To Breathe" Documents

Documents: Feds, City Knew Of Ground Zero Toxins

(CBS) NEW YORK
tunning proof has been uncovered that the government knowingly put New Yorkers in harm’s way after 9/11.

CBS 2 News has obtained documents revealing that Lower Manhattan was reopened a few weeks following the attack even though the air was not safe.

The two devastating memos, written by the U.S. and local governments, show they knew. They knew the toxic soup created at Ground Zero was a deadly health hazard. Yet they sent workers into the pit and people back into their homes.

One of the memos, from the New York City health department, dated Oct. 6, 2001, noted: “The mayor’s office is under pressure from building owners … in the Red Zone to open more of the city.” The memo said the Department of Environmental Protection was “uncomfortable” with opening the areas but, “The mayor’s office was directing the Office of Emergency Management to open the target areas next week.”

“Not only did they know it was unsafe, they didn’t heed the words of more experienced people that worked for the city and E.P.A.,” said Joel Kupferman, with the group Environmental Justice Project.

Another part of the memo noted: “The E.P.A. has been very slow to make data results available and to date has not sufficiently informed the public of air quality issues arising from this disaster.”

Give me a break. :shk:


[edit on 6-9-2009 by loam]

reply to post by GradyPhilpott


You don't get it do you?

They chose not to allow people to make their own INFORMED decisions about what to do and the risks they would take.

THEY LIED.

I'm not railing about what the government should have done to protect people from the dangers... I'm railing against the government MISINFORMING people of the risks and not letting them decide for themselves.

Why is what happened acceptable to you?

I am objecting to the blanket statement that the government lied without qualification.

In the aftermath of the attack there were many concerns that needed to be addressed.

This article addresses the issue pretty well and I stand by my statement the the government addressed the issue in the best way they could taking into account all the attendant issues.

www.cbsnews.com...

Again, assuming that they did lie, what were the options?

Did anyone believe that the air was perfectly safe?

Would the public have done differently if they had?

What were the options?



[edit on 2009/9/6 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Again, what were the options after the attack?

Abandon Manhattan?

No, the only sensible option is to conduct accurate and complete tests of the air quality at ground zero and equip the workers with the proper safety equipment - based on the results of the tests - to allow them to work in the environment safely.

Clearly that's not what was done. The tests were sloppy, faulty, and inaccurate, and the proper precautions were not taken. Someone needs to be held accountable for that.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Again, assuming that they did lie, what were the options?

How about telling the truth?

You seem to require a position that goes beyond that without at a minimum requiring nothing more than the simple truth.

Why?

People made decisions for weeks in reliance upon safety representations. Perhaps different decisions would have been made if the risks had been revealed.

I'm sorry. I do not agree that it is acceptable for the government to lie about health and safety issues for political or economic reasons, or for other reasons of convenience.

Never. Ever.





[edit on 6-9-2009 by loam]