This is what happens when 'Presidents' talk to kids.

Watch the video, it's a history lesson. When you let Presidents address your children and allow the teachers, education departments, celebrities, and the mainstream media to turn your President into a 'Superstar' cult hero.






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I'd be willing to bet that you didn't intend for Nothing to be the answer.

You're link is malformed.

reply to post by Hazelnut


Meh, I wouldn't worry about it too much ...

t's a Hitler youth video.

So when Bush and Reagan did it, they were "just like Hitler" too?

More talk radio nut nonsense

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
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it's a Hitler youth video.

NOOOO WAYYY!

This is important information, Somebody should call Glen Beck right away so he can tell people on his TV show!



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I was trying to find that speech Hitler gave that used to be on posters back in the 60's. It was about social problems and things like that and it was one of those things that you would read and be shocked it was from a source like that.

Anyone know which speech that is and how to find it?

I used to be conservative, but I could not in good consciense join their side. The Democrats do not necessarily have the right answers to the important questions of the day, but at least they are trying to answer the important questions of the day. Democrats are tackling healthcare and the economy, Republicans are worried about Obama telling kids to "stay in school" and whether some silly homosexuals should be allowed to play house or not.

If your kid is going to school in America, he has more to worry about than whether Obama is "indoctrinating" him. Your kid is going to grow up in a country that has been bankrupted by its healthcare system, whose financial industry is in ruins due to speculation and other games played on the market, and whose industries are dessimated by foreign competition that is smarter and cheaper.

Originally posted by redhead57
I was trying to find that speech Hitler gave that used to be on posters back in the 60's. It was about social problems and things like that and it was one of those things that you would read and be shocked it was from a source like that.

Anyone know which speech that is and how to find it?

"The streets of our cities are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might and the Republic is in danger. Yes, danger from within and without. We need law and order! Yes, without law and order our national cannot survive. . . . Elect us and we shall restore law and order. We shall, by law and order, be respected among the nations of the world. Without law and order our Republic shall fail."

* There is debate amongst scholars as to whether or not this quote is actually from Hitler, or just attributed to him for propaganda purposes in the late 1960s.

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You know you don't have to join a side, right.

If you don't agree with either of them, refuse to play their game.

I'm with Strictsum - don't pick a "side"

When you identify yourself with a political faction, you start to make choices not based on what you think is right, but based on "what is the liberal/conservative/whatever approach" - the ideology starts making your decisions for you, and your own intellect becomes smothered by group/identity loyalty.

Don't let it happen.

Approach each issue based on principle and pragmatism, not ideology.

If more of us start to do this, we can break this vicious cycle the country seems to be stuck in.

Originally posted by xmotex
So when Bush and Reagan did it, they were "just like Hitler" too?

More talk radio nut nonsense

Be fair it was different is some ways.

After all how do you compare reading "My Pet Goat" to a classroom of children while the country is supposedly under attack by super terrorist to anything that President Obama is doing?

Wait! I think I hear a flame headed my way.

reply to post by GigaloCool


Thank you that is the one I was thinking of when I was looking at the video. Political rhetoric is dangerous and politicians are the most dangerous men out there, besides the banksters.

reply to post by xmotex


Thank you for ironing that out for me. You are exactly right, if everyone would just refuse to play the game then things could get turned around. Instead people want to argue over nonsense and strive to be put into convenient little boxes.


Q. Why would someone want this ?

A. Because they were told 2.

reply to post by SpiritoftheNightSky


he wasn't referring to George W. Bush, but to Bush senior. He and Reagan both exploited their speeches for political purposes, but of course since they were pointing how increasing taxes is bad and unjust, it should totally be allowed.

Originally posted by SpiritoftheNightSky
Be fair it was different is some ways.

After all how do you compare reading "My Pet Goat" to a classroom of children while the country is supposedly under attack by super terrorist to anything that President Obama is doing?

Wait! I think I hear a flame headed my way.

It IS in fact different.

Bush senior and Reagan did exploit their speeches to children with propaganda.

Thus far (as of the day of my post), it's different in that we don't know yet what Obama will actually say, so saying that it's different "to anything Obama is doing" as it relates to the topic of this thread is a silly assertion, since he HASN'T DONE "IT" YET.

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That's my Motto. Instead of focusing on what we don't don't agree on why don't we focus on trying to find some common ground.

I actually don't disagree with this, it's not that I think we can compare our national movements in Education with Nazi Germany tactics (yet at least)

But it's not good, Education process shouldn't even be formed by districts, it's about schools, small groups of educators and parents coming together to create curriculum's they dream up, real diversity, intellectual diversity...

When you have a nation that all reads the same 40 books through HS and discusses the same issue that's not education that's conformity, mental cloning, it helps nothing new and novel to happen no genius is created this way, nothing inventive happens.

It's a terrible trend to standardize education....

and yeah there is a point to be made, even if not true now, the wrong leader would have the power to affect an entire generation the wrong way...

So when Kennedy said "Ask not what can your country do for you, but what you can do for your country"... he was a socialist?

The President has the right to address citizens.

When is the backlash against the backlash going to start?

Whatever Obama does to education, I hope it will lead to a proper examination of National Socialism, its roots, causes and practical reality in american schools.

The saddening level of misunderstandings, half knowledge and downright naivity rampant in the USA with regards to this peculiar party and political era is evident daily from pundits, talk shows and also threads like this.

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When you have a nation that all reads the same 40 books through HS and discusses the same issue that's not education that's conformity, mental cloning, it helps nothing new and novel to happen no genius is created this way, nothing inventive happens.

It's a terrible trend to standardize education....

It's even worse than that though, the kids who are a little eccentric and different. The ones who feel what they are being forced to do is boring are put on medication so they can also conform.

The genius child has probably been put on medication to help him "calm down". So the teacher can concentrate on all 30 normal students more easily.

That's not the way it should be in my opinion. We are failing at educating our future. My worry is that it is being done on purpose.