Life for US soldier's Iraq crimes

reply to post by Laurauk


You don't seem to care about all the innocent girls raped and tortured by Uday, and all the people he tortured.

The difference being that when it was discovered what these bad U.S. soldiers did, they were are arrested, tried, and are now going to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Whereas Uday was allowed to continue to rape and torture at will, like some demon span set loose on Earth.

Are you morally unable to see the difference?

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[edit on 5-9-2009 by poet1b]

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by Miraj

 

So are you stating he should not have been prosecuted?

He should have been let off free, with the murder of 2 innocent children and two innocent adults?

It beggars believe that you would defend such a disgusting crime. How would have you reacted if this happened to any of your daughters?

And howmany innocent men woman and children were killed by Coalition forces during the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq?

Hmms thinks someone should look at the facts of what this so called hero of a soldier and his counterparts participated in.

[edit on 5-9-2009 by Laurauk]

Woah. I think you need to read my post friend.

What I'm saying is, that you should be happy he was actually prosecuted and convicted. When there are many deaths caused by soldiers where they often get a pass.

...and yet if Blackwater were do do the same thing, which they allegedly have, they would get a slap on the wrist.

Not that I am condoning what this soldier did, but equal justice for equal crimes!

The hypocrisy in this country is outrageous.

I think justice was done here. At least he didn't get like 10 years in jail, he's never getting out.

I'm totally against the death penalty. I don't think he should ever be free, but who are we to say he is "demonic", the war probably ruined his mind.

Besides, the people who started the war are a million times worse anyway.

Originally posted by Laurauk

Hmms why was he not given the death penalty, or castration. I guess his life is more important to the US Government, than that of the 14 year old Iraqi girl, whom he raped and murdered! Not only that he also murdered the girls mother, father and other sister.

So you say an eye for an eye?

So you believe the state should stoop to the same level as this animal?

Are you looking for punishment or vengeance? Remember... death is the greatest freedom anyone will ever know.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Remember... death is the greatest freedom anyone will ever know.

And enforced solitary confinement where a persons own voice is the only voice they will ever hear again is the worst torture imaginable

I believe I will chime in on this one.
War is not what Hollywood would protray it to be. It is brutal, hard and rough. People die in wars, that is a fact. Unfortunately it is also something that weighs on the mind of those who have to fight those battles. Consider this, you send men to fight. Most are going from a society where it is acceptable to go out, find a girl or companion, enjoy themselves in an intimate way and back to base in time for their duty. I am not saying the soldier is wrong in this aspect, but considering he was sent there, and it did not state his combat record, or how long he was over there. What I am surprised is that more of these cases are not popping up or even the number of servicemen returning from Iraq or Afganistan comitting violent crimes, including rape once they get back here. I never went to war, but my father did. It changed him, for a long time, it affected the way he was with his family. It was not until later on that it came out that he suffered from PTSD. But by that time, it was too late to help us kids, but it did help him with my mother. Before we condem a person to death, let me ask you this: Could you, after looking into the eyes of a person, any living soul, push the button to end that life, no matter how much of a monster they are? Would that death bring back any life that was taken?

Wasn't this what they were ordered to do beginning of the war? (minus the rape)

I either watched a video or read somewhere about the first wave of soldiers that went into Baghdad and their orders were to just cause the utmost fear into the people there so they would be scared of the American forces (or perhaps it was all planned to get more people to hate the US forces)...

Basically what I heard is this...
They'd go in at night, bust into a house, line up the family inside the living room or outside, and they would start interrogating them about info about insurgents or where they were keeping weapons (I mean they were specifically targeted for some reason)

If they did not answer or refused to cooperate they'd shoot the youngest child. If they still did not cooperate they'd shoot the next one, right in front of them. I think at that point I stopped watching or reading because that's just brutal.

This "man's" (I use the term very loosely) actions indeed merit the death penalty. I can see no value in keeping him alive; unfortunately the death penalty is all too often not carried out for years because of endless appeals. Often the condemned die of natural causes.

In cases such as this were guilt has been determined with no room for error the death penalty should be carried out within a year of it being handed down.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Laurauk

 

You don't seem to care about all the innocent girls raped and tortured by Uday, and all the people he tortured.

The difference being that when it was discovered what these bad U.S. soldiers did, they were are arrested, tried, and are now going to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

Whereas Uday was allowed to continue to rape and torture at will, like some demon span set loose on Earth.

Are you morally unable to see the difference?

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Sorry friend, but in her world only US soldiers are capable of doing evil. Only US soldiers should receive castration and the death penalty for committing evil acts. Insurgents who lure soldiers to helping children and then sniping them in the neck are just freedom fighters. Insurgents who set off roadside bombs that cripple Iraqi civilians as well as US soldiers are also freedom fighters. Insurgents that capture and behead journalists who try to report from the region are also freedom fighters.

It is either life in prison or the death penalty. I cannot comprehend how you think this guy got off lightly? As I said earlier, life in a place like jail is suffering. Everyday he will be reminded of his crimes and will have to face the consequences of what he did. The death penalty might in theory be a more fitting punishment, but it also allows the perpetrator to escape the consequences of punishment in this life.

Originally posted by Donnie Darko

but who are we to say he is "demonic", the war probably ruined his mind.

I agree.. They have been taught to go kill people that they discover are not the true enemy.

"Two Legger = Banks/So-called government/NWO"

They learn that they and their enemy, are the equivalent of two cats that have had their tails tied together by some, "Two Leggers" and have been thrown across a clothesline only to face one another in a life & death battle.

What do you think that will do to someones once sensible mind? being taught to kill innocent people for some, "Two Leggers" agenda, which has nothing to do with fighting for truly noble causes; which is what most of them were deceptively signed up to do..

He could have been one of these noble people that temporarily went nuts due to fighting his own heart. Personally after the fight I have experienced I'm thinking people would have a hard time discerning who the good and bad are between my enemy and myself.

My enemy smoothly tricking potential business associates/whatever in order to prevent possible coordination/business/work.. It has effected me in such a way that I became similar to them; what's right is wrong and what's wrong is right; and have acted it out.

Like I said; I can understand both sides of the issue; agree with the punishment, and call for the prosecution of the NWO and all similar organizations that have a hand in the war in the matter..

No consequencE!!

Thank you.

They should duct tape him up and drop him off in the village that his victims are from. The neighbors will see to getting justice done.