Ufo video and moon that i can't explain. maybe YOU can?

The crack shows itself in the third picture too. It's not even so much as a "crack" as a tear. You can see the metal bent out and exposing the ground through it.

Sweet video though, can't say I've ever seen something free-fall from space before.

Edit: And looking at the probe again from this angle, you can see that there was a lot more damage than the single crack/tear. Also, that there was no real "inside" for anything to be moving around in.

As for the Black Figure in the Apollo video, it's pretty clearly camera distortion, though I'm not sure what exactly it's distorting. At first I thought it was just the other astronaut, but according to the official version that was shown right afterwards, he's bounding back toward the spacecraft from the camera at the time the thing shows up in the right margin.

So if the official version's timing is correct, and instead it's just cropped, there appears to be something else on the video that wouldn't be the second astronaut. If it's a different "take" then it could just be the other guy. That's pretty funny to me, because the only real way NASA could cover it up is by saying it's the other astronaut, when by their own official video, he's by the camera rather than to the right of the shuttle.

As for the second time they show it, as a black dot on the official video; I'd call that camera fuzz and nothing else.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by EsSeeEye]

[edit on 4-9-2009 by EsSeeEye]

The Second video seem to be fake, if it is not then there is some other person there no doubt, it is quite easy to see him bending down to pick up something etc.

For the First, with the Genesis Probe, the 3 photos seem to show the same object with the same crack from what I can tell. What I wonder about is what the moving thing was that is clearly seen in the video? I am also wondering about the crater, why is it not bigger? Generally objects hitting the ground from space leave craters that are really big, at least 10 times the size of the original object. Even stamping your foot down in the ground really fast and hard will leave you a crater much bigger than your foot - SPECIALLY in sand such as the area the object landed on in the videos & photos.

Just as an example take this recent meteor hit in Peru:



The story itself regarding the above meteor is quite fascinating and strange, so if you have not heard about it before do feel free to check this news article:
Meteor crash leaves 66ft crater

EDIT: LINK ABOVE FIXED!


[edit on 5-9-2009 by IX-777]

Nobody is "On the Moon" - The whole thing is fake.

The photos have been doctored, the visits to the moon are real.

And the reason they hoaxed the photos has to do with what they found up there.

For the moment there is a conflict going on between the people of Earth, Moon and Mars - which also related to why they are bombing the moon now next month.

Blessings,
-Maggador

reply to post by IX-777


Are we realy bombing the moon? i would love to see a link to this please.

Thanks

Peace

Yes, NASA is bombing the moon now in October, it has been all over the news.

Here is one link about it:
NASAs mission to bomb the Moon

Blessings,
-Maggador

Yes, NASA is bombing the moon now in October, it has been all over the news.

Here is one link about it:
NASAs mission to bomb the Moon

Blessings,
-Maggador

This does not look like some thread: it looks like some bunch of unrelated posts, no one is reading what the others are writing
WHAT is being supposed with the story of the crack not being there or being there after some assessment based on two different angles images? That genesis did not crash? That genesis did crash but something else crashed at the same time and nasa released the image of the boogey by mistake? That genesis crashed but after some minutes changed its shape? That genesis wa NOT terrestrial? What is exactly the point? Just want to understand.

reply to post by IX-777


Firstly you can't compare a meteorite with re-entering space junk, there are too many variables to consider like velocity, composition of the meteorite and so on.

Without knowing the above variables as well as the type of ground each object crashed into you, there really is no comparison.


As for the moon "bombing", they're merely crashing a craft onto the surface to record what comes up in the resulting plume.

This isn't the first craft to be crashed into our celestial neighbours (deliberate or otherwise).

So sorry no alien bases will be destroyed. In fact I think we will be able to watch the impact live if I'm not mistaken.

Chadwicks: Well nice to hear you blindly believe what NASA SAY they are doing, unfortunately what is spoken of is quite often not the same as the truth regarding such. Believing anything NASA says is quite hard considering it is a fact they have been lying and hiding things and manipulating their photos and so on, not only from the Moon missions but from Mars and others as well.

Regarding the Moon I have to quote myself from a previous post:


Now this is rather interesting - and shocking - as it backs up my previous article posted some time ago regarding the conflict between Earth, the Moon and Mars. Feel free to read my previous article, The Mars - Moon and Earth Connection, here: pleiadiantalk.blogspot.com...

To further back up my claims that NASA is basically declaring war upon the inhabitants of the Moon, several NASA employees have confirmed that there are extraterrestrial bases and life on the Moon. Other governmental employees have also confirmed this, from people in the Military, CIA , NSA etc. Look up The Disclosure Project for more info on that, for example by watching the video below:
Disclosure Project Video

Obviously I do not think these plans have anything to do with NASAs official statements, which says they will bomb the moon to "look for water". Ever heard about drilling? Or ground penetrating radars? There are many ways to discover water on a planet or moon that does not include bombing.

How likely is it, that they would spend billions of dollars on bombing our Moon to look for water, now after all this time, instead of using other more reliable methods which they already have the technology for? Indeed, the very fact that they suddenly are turning a new interest on the Moon itself is suspicious - they never got any people back there, in the last 40 or so years, even though the technology now obviously should be more than advanced enough to do so considering they allegedly have done so before. My own opinion is that they discovered what was there, got into a conflict, and figured the best way was to stay away - until now when they figured out they could as well blast them away up there.

Who knows what the consequences will be - if they are indeed carrying out this planned project I fear it may not be the best ones.

Say NO to the bombing of our fellow brethren and sisters of the Moon - we are all one and what we do to others affect ourselvs the same way.

While on the NASA topic I also recommend everyone to check out Secret Space volume 1 and 2 here:
Secret Space Videos

Read more about the NASA moon bombing project here:
NASA Moon Bombing can cause conflict with Extraterrestrial Civilization

PLEASE also check the following video with Dr Pete Peterson , another new whistleblower on the governments involvment with alien technology, and much more:
www.projectcamelot.org...

With Love and deepest Blessings,
Maggador

I read all posts here, because I can see either some kind of light or movement where the crack is in the probe, and it has only been mentioned a couple of times.

It is part of the main topic, but the conversation changes to something else when the movement is mentioned.

Would like to hear if others are seeing this please, or is it just not important enough to talk about.

Also thought the two main stones, behind the probe would have got a mention, as these look different too me in each picture, could be the angle I dont know but look different all the same, I am talking about the ones that look like two tombstones.

Now the crack mystery is cleared up, can we clear the movement mystery up, because it is baffling me?.

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About the two pics with the probe... Yes there is a crack in both of them. It has to do with the angle from which we are viewing the object along with how the crack is shaped.
The left hand side of the crack is actually protruding further outwards than the right hand side, which means when we look at it from the left side AND with the sun coming in at the angle it's coming in, the crack will hardly be visible.
But you can still detect it if you're not trying to look for and invent mistakes. Look at the shape of the crack in the shot from the front... the curves... the lines. Now try to imagine those curves and lines when viewed from the side and the crack is protruding a bit outwards. Now look at the slightly darker lines on the shot from the left....

It IS the same object, and I don't even wanna go over this again, because you are usually pretty clever Phage.

Double bubble

2nd line

[edit on 7/9/09 by flice]

To address the second video...I have a feeling this is what you're looking at:

www.youtube.com...


From the information on that page:

"This is my video and it is a fake.

I created it as something of a "social experiment" in 2007, under the premise that my Grandfather had kept it hidden in a vault, only to be discovered after his passing..."

to read further on, you will see that he admits the original youtube vid from 07 was/is a fake, and explains his process...

as for the movement in the probe, could it be a servo winding down after impact?

CDS

[edit on 7-9-2009 by Cole DeSteele]

reply to post by Phage


In short, the object was in free fall. It was not going something like a shuttle would at 18k mph or so. The relatively slow tumbling shows that it was not falling that fast. Being in free fall, it was only at the mercy of plain old gravity countered by its wind resistance as indicated by its tumbling. That is why the damage was slight in addition to the structural strength of its design for space work. And the tape is not quite accurate. In the length of the video, the thing did not fall from 200k feet to the witnessed impact.

Finally, the impact site and damage to the craft neither indicate a high rate of velocity even given that the craft was not near as heavy (or as fragile) as would be an airlliner.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by Aliensun]

reply to post by TheAmused


What a strange thread!
I started off being bemused and then by the end of page 1 I was amused by... erm... TheAmused(!) and the Sesame Street Reference... And I get accused of sarcasm.
Then I never expected Page 2 to add to my amused state...
But no... Irma produces another brilliant example of (cool!) chairs to accentuate a perspective of a 3D object.
As for the actual thread...
Well... I am unsure WHERE it belongs.
Maybe it should be in a Chaos Forum or something because it goes all over the place!

FIRST VIDEO: Everything I've ever seen points to Genesis crashing into the ground. It didn't exactly have much to do other than crack, it wasn't full of fuel or burning anything so it did what all good falling objects actually do... hit the ground and get damaged...

SECOND (erm) VIDEO: As for the second laughable YouTube video...
Well I am sorry but it's as clearly faked as anything I have ever seen.
Honestly... look at it folks...
1. OKAY start with a bunch of screenshots of secret / top secret erm... stuff
2. Make it look all old and grainy by erm putting some scratchy stuff over the top of the video
3. Take images of lunar lander (make them extra bright)
4. Add person off to the right and there you go... a very poor video

Again - what a strange thread!
Does anyone else have any objects to compare, any images of things to show... old Sesame Street Videos (seem to be popular on ATS). How about some Monty Python.

It must be the last days of Summer... hopefully we get back to normal soon.

Somebody please post something interesting...